Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

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Lunachu said:
Well there's a question I never ever thought I'd contemplate. Does fucking a chicken sandwich cross the line into bestiality and necrophillia? :lol:
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if there's an egg on the sandwich is it also incestuous bestial necrophilia?
 
Anybody else see Okja? It's a Netflix original movie about a girl and her genetically engineered super pig that looks like it's got hippo and manatee DNA somewhere in there too.


It's a good movie. The direction for the actors speaking English is kind of weird, being that the director is Korean, but I mostly wanted to point out that ALF shows up in this movie and they're portrayed sympathetically, though it's clear the movie isn't endorsing them. Rather, they're part of a larger story to help Mija.

I mostly bring this up because there's a running gag with an ALF member who's an ultra-vegan, trying to leave as little a carbon footprint as possible. He's pale and sickly and constantly on the verge of fainting, and at one point tries to fight riot police, and ends up just ineffectually bouncing off the dude's shield.

It made me laugh.

I'm curious if any vegans saw it and complained about or praised it.
 
I was watching a Hope for Paws video (it's a nonprofit organization that rescues abandoned, stray, and/or injured dogs and rehabilitates them; check it out!) and came across this comment chain:

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"Remember that in your world in order to feed dogs you have to kill beefs, lambs, pigs, and other animals."

Oh geez, it's almost like some animals eat each other to survive or something! That's so barbaric, the ethical choice is obviously to deprive dogs and other carnivores/omnivores of meat.

Some vegans are just braindead.
 
Cosmos said:
I was watching a Hope for Paws video (it's a nonprofit organization that rescues abandoned, stray, and/or injured dogs and rehabilitates them; check it out!) and came across this comment chain:

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"Remember that in your world in order to feed dogs you have to kill beefs, lambs, pigs, and other animals."

Oh geez, it's almost like some animals eat each other to survive or something! That's so barbaric, the ethical choice is obviously to deprive dogs and other carnivores/omnivores of meat.

Some vegans are just braindead.
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Even in their argument they admit dogs are omnivores and eat meat. I also think its pretty universal that people prioritize dogs over pigs and cows. We call one Man's best friend and the others livestock. I guess they'd prefer that the dog starves to death and that the cheeseburger just sits there and spoils.
 
Cheeseburgers are a hell of a bait for dogs. If you're trying to catch a dog that's been out on their own for a while with a live trap, nothing works better than cheeseburgers.

I wonder how many cats that idiot vegan has killed by feeding them vegan food?
 
Another comment from another Hope for Paws rescue video. This one is pretty horrifying considering that it got almost 200 upvotes.

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SIGHS.

"But all animals were wild before humans came and built houses and forbidden their will to roam free."

I can tell that this person probably supports PETA, because PETA often peddles the "domestication is EVIL" narrative. Actually, when you look at it from an objective standpoint, domestication is the best thing that can happen to an animal species. The animals:
  • Don't have to worry about finding food (the importance of this really can't be overstated)
  • Don't have to worry about being attacked by predators
  • Don't have to worry about finding shelter
  • Can safely mate and raise their young
  • Have basically all of their needs taken care of
Now, is something like factory farming bad? Yes. But domestication in and of itself is mutually beneficial for humans and animals. That's why it's been around for thousands and thousands of years. Oh, and pets, like dogs and cats, won the fucking lottery. Not only do they get all of the above, they get the added bonus of not being eaten or used for products. In the modern world, pets are kept solely for the pleasure of their company and aren't expected to "earn their keep," so to speak.

Also, it's honestly pretty laughable (not to mention delusional) that some people believe that domesticated animals would be happier in the wild. I'm pretty sure that my dog prefers cuddling with me in my bed over shivering in the woods.

You guys cry about dogs, but put pigs on your plate and then laugh about it.

First of all, I don't think anyone laughs at eating animals. It's just something we do. And secondly, someone else already wrote a great rebuttal to why dogs and livestock are different (it was originally written in response to Yulin Dog Meat Festival, but it applies here too).

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Tl;dr- "Eating dog is not the same as eating pig, but rather a betrayal of all that they have done for us over the past 15-30 thousand years."
 
Cosmos said:
Another comment from another Hope for Paws rescue video. This one is pretty horrifying considering that it got almost 200 upvotes.

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SIGHS.

"But all animals were wild before humans came and built houses and forbidden their will to roam free."

I can tell that this person probably supports PETA, because PETA often peddles the "domestication is EVIL" narrative. Actually, when you look at it from an objective standpoint, domestication is the best thing that can happen to an animal species. The animals:
  • Don't have to worry about finding food (the importance of this really can't be overstated)
  • Don't have to worry about being attacked by predators
  • Don't have to worry about finding shelter
  • Can safely mate and raise their young
  • Have basically all of their needs taken care of
Now, is something like factory farming bad? Yes. But domestication in and of itself is mutually beneficial for humans and animals. That's why it's been around for thousands and thousands of years. Oh, and pets, like dogs and cats, won the fucking lottery. Not only do they get all of the above, they get the added bonus of not being eaten or used for products. In the modern world, pets are kept solely for the pleasure of their company and aren't expected to "earn their keep," so to speak.

Also, it's honestly pretty laughable (not to mention delusional) that some people believe that domesticated animals would be happier in the wild. I'm pretty sure that my dog prefers cuddling with me in my bed over shivering in the woods.

You guys cry about dogs, but put pigs on your plate and then laugh about it.

First of all, I don't think anyone laughs at eating animals. It's just something we do. And secondly, someone else already wrote a great rebuttal to why dogs and livestock are different (it was originally written in response to Yulin Dog Meat Festival, but it applies here too).

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Tl;dr- "Eating dog is not the same as eating pig, but rather a betrayal of all that they have done for us over the past 15-30 thousand years."
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I hasten to remind anyone that dogs were usually only eaten by people who had food scarcity on a regular basis. Mostly by people who didn't have the luxury or state of mind to keep a dog as a pet. It's a historic facet of food scarcity in Asia (most often when there were cycles of rat populations that destroyed the rice crop every 11 years or so, in time with a certain flowering bamboo that fed the rats until they overpopulated and overran the rice fields), though it's also been heard of in North America, as I remember a story or two of someone having to put on a dinner back in the 1700s or thereabouts for a large group of Native Americans, I THINK Iroquois or tribes of that region IIRC--MIGHT have been Plains tribes either, I forget which, and one of the items listed that they had that the Natives would find acceptable was dog meat. I forget which book it was, but they also had venison, and a ton of booze.

Interestingly enough, pork as a meat was considered in many areas as poor-peoples-food, the upper classes wouldn't touch it in for example, Egypt, and they didn't even have the Hebrew (Proto-Judaic) stricture against anyone eating it, or Muslim concept of haram (forbidden), though they did consider it "unclean" in a similar manner as the Hebrews did--but not to the point that nobody was allowed to eat it. But since pigs breed like rabbits and have large litters, and put on weight quickly with food that is inefficiently converted by humans, China exploited pork like no other.
 
beansntoast said:
as annoying as those vegans in the video are, they do kinda have a point that it's cruel to just let the fish slowly suffocate to death, they could at least have brought a bucket if they don't want to kill it right away, but throwing it back in the water is also dumb and won't save it, it will die from a combination of the throat injuries received from the hook (sometimes it even pireces their brain and their eyes) and loosing its slime covering (protects from fungi and bacteria) from being grabbed and drying out on land

still it's telling how they send a child first and the constant comparison of animals to children... like no, even true carnivores usually don't eat their own (at least in mammals). and how they have no points besides screaming and chanting... you're not gonna convince those hicks you're just gonna make them hate you
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I hate people who just toss live fish they catch in the cooler to suffocate too. Personally I brain spike, otherwise known as ikejime, my fish with a knife when I catch them. It causes instant brain death if done properly. Another benefit of brain spiking is that it preserves the flavor and texture of the meat since a slow death by suffocation causes lactic acid to build up which can affect flavor and texture negatively.

And I was under the impression fish could survive a hook and catch? Why would it be law to throw them back if they're too small, or other reasons, if they'll just die?
Meowthkip said:
Anybody else see Okja? It's a Netflix original movie about a girl and her genetically engineered super pig that looks like it's got hippo and manatee DNA somewhere in there too.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AjCebKn4iic
It's a good movie. The direction for the actors speaking English is kind of weird, being that the director is Korean, but I mostly wanted to point out that ALF shows up in this movie and they're portrayed sympathetically, though it's clear the movie isn't endorsing them. Rather, they're part of a larger story to help Mija.

I mostly bring this up because there's a running gag with an ALF member who's an ultra-vegan, trying to leave as little a carbon footprint as possible. He's pale and sickly and constantly on the verge of fainting, and at one point tries to fight riot police, and ends up just ineffectually bouncing off the dude's shield.

It made me laugh.

I'm curious if any vegans saw it and complained about or praised it.
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It was a good movie, but I thought it was a little heavy handed with it's antimeat message.
 
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Not internet-related but the other day at my college someone handed me out this pamphlet with pictures of cute animals on it. At first I thought it was some advertisement for an organization that takes care of animals (which would be perfectly fine), until I actually read the thing and found out it was vegan propaganda. The people who wrote it got so many facts wrong and acted like they could actually stop the farming industry, to the point where I'm surprised it wasn't sponsored by PETA.
 
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Probably Not said:
I hate people who just toss live fish they catch in the cooler to suffocate too. Personally I brain spike, otherwise known as ikejime, my fish with a knife when I catch them. It causes instant brain death if done properly. Another benefit of brain spiking is that it preserves the flavor of the meat since a slow death by suffocation causes lactic acid to build up which can affect flavor negatively.

And I was under the impression fish could survive a hook and catch? Why would it be law to throw them back if they're too small, or other reasons, if they'll just die?

It was a good movie, but I thought it was a little heavy handed with it's antimeat message.
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I didn't even think about the lactic acid build up, but also a good point!

I'd claim that not all laws are very practical, they probably mean well but obviously aren't up to date with newest studys on whether or not these fish actually survive either killed directly by the injuries or the aftermath of infection or falling easy prey to a predator. But also what else are you supposed to do with a way too small baby fish, take it with you, nurse it back to health until the wounds from the hook are healed and then release it back? it's a dilemma that isn't easily solved, throwing it back in the hopes it will survive is just the easiest solution

I'd also claim that only being allowed to catch big fish or game isn't that smart of a solution either. I know that here in europe it has a bad influence on the fish and wild animal populations, we catch all the big and strong ones and leave the small sickly ones (if they survive at all) who in turn produce smaller, less robust offspring. It's very apparent in many popular food fish but also in e.g. red deer, especially the males don't grow as big as they used to and don't grow as big and pretty antlers anymore as Idk like 100 years ago (sorry don't remember the exact time frame of the study I read). the same happens with big game hunting tourism in africa.
It's like a reverse survival of the fittest.
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have been avoiding vegan insanity lately so nothing laughable to contribute, sorry :(
 
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Probably Not said:
It was a good movie, but I thought it was a little heavy handed with it's antimeat message.
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I interpreted it more as being anti-GMO rather than anti meat, though it is certainly very critical of the meat industry. But that's just my interpretation.

Cosmos said:
Holy hell, someone on Tumblr did a Hiroshima-level roasting of PETA.

Here's the actual post so you can click the links if you're interested (archive just in case).

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Every time I hear PETA mentioned in a positive way, I die a little inside.
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I seriously have to wonder how anybody can take PETA seriously at all.
 
I can't believe it took me this long to post this Papa Franku classic:

 
Meowthkip said:
I interpreted it more as being anti-GMO rather than anti meat, though it is certainly very critical of the meat industry. But that's just my interpretation.
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Oh no it's not your interpretation. The really funny thing is a lot of anti-GMO people aren't against GMOs themselves but they're against the corporations that make them. So it's not GMOs, it's Monsanto because Monsanto is pure evil and these are their business practices and blah blah blah.

When you try to tie them down to just using the facts, often times they can't support their ideas. This applies to all of them be they vegan, anti-GMO or anti-corporation.
 
Phil Ken Sebben said:
Oh no it's not your interpretation. The really funny thing is a lot of anti-GMO people aren't against GMOs themselves but they're against the corporations that make them. So it's not GMOs, it's Private Villa of Corrupted Crops because Private Villa of Corrupted Crops is pure evil and these are their business practices and blah blah blah.
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Monsanto is pretty shit tbh. But some of these nuts (like Greenpeace) even oppose absolutely positive GMOs for the flimsiest of pretexts and dumbass slogans like "frankenfood." One example would be golden rice. It's just rice that also produces Vitamin A. Not having Vitamin A kills 1-2 million people EVERY YEAR. You could send in doctors and nutritional supplements and shit like that, but in many of these places, they already grow rice.

Greenpeace has some pretty theoretical PETA-tier bullshit about how corporations could manipulate this for their own benefit, some of which is probably true, but we're talking about a fucking Holocaust every six years that a single GMO could stop in its tracks. Never mind the millions of other people who end up flat out blind or with permanent vision impairments. Not to be too harshly utilitarian, but permanently blind or nearly blind people cost more than dead people.
 
AnOminous said:
Private Villa of Corrupted Crops is pretty shit tbh. But some of these nuts (like Greenpeace) even oppose absolutely positive GMOs for the flimsiest of pretexts and dumbass slogans like "frankenfood." One example would be golden rice. It's just rice that also produces Vitamin A. Not having Vitamin A kills 1-2 million people EVERY YEAR. You could send in doctors and nutritional supplements and shit like that, but in many of these places, they already grow rice.

Greenpeace has some pretty theoretical PETA-tier bullshit about how corporations could manipulate this for their own benefit, some of which is probably true, but we're talking about a fucking Holocaust every six years that a single GMO could stop in its tracks. Never mind the millions of other people who end up flat out blind or with permanent vision impairments. Not to be too harshly utilitarian, but permanently blind or nearly blind people cost more than dead people.
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Not only that, the developer of Golden Rice was willing to give seed away to farmers for free, just for the humanitarian benefit of the crop, but Greenpeace didn't even want that to happen and convinced some governments not to allow it.
 
AnOminous said:
Private Villa of Corrupted Crops is pretty shit tbh. But some of these nuts (like Greenpeace) even oppose absolutely positive GMOs for the flimsiest of pretexts and dumbass slogans like "frankenfood." One example would be golden rice. It's just rice that also produces Vitamin A. Not having Vitamin A kills 1-2 million people EVERY YEAR. You could send in doctors and nutritional supplements and shit like that, but in many of these places, they already grow rice.

Greenpeace has some pretty theoretical PETA-tier bullshit about how corporations could manipulate this for their own benefit, some of which is probably true, but we're talking about a fucking Holocaust every six years that a single GMO could stop in its tracks. Never mind the millions of other people who end up flat out blind or with permanent vision impairments. Not to be too harshly utilitarian, but permanently blind or nearly blind people cost more than dead people.
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Even the creator of Greenpeace hates the organization now, he left because it became too militant and extremist and lost its original idea.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...er-evil-guilty-losing-humanitarian-roots.html
 
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