Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

[kidsquid]

It's a quirk of genetics why caucasians (+ I believe a certain African tribe) are't lactose intolerant. It was more beneficial in the cold, shitty, not sunny areas to get more calcium from dairy as you didn't get enough sun for whatever vitamin it gives you (B4?? D?? I dunno, haven't done biology in a long ass time), so those who didn't get serious bloat when they ate/drank dairy would be stronger, therefore have more kids, so the gene would spread.

Also dairy is great so why would you pass up this nice shit that your farm animals (cause it's not just cow's milk, cause goat's cheese is great, dunno about sheep or other farm animals)?

Besides most farmers will want to have happy, well looked after cows that produce lots of milk as opposed to fucked up, sad cows in pens that don't produce as much.

 

[Adamska]

Wouldn't that technically mean that you could subtract it using one of the dozens of processes used to treat milk?

Furthermore, who gives a shit about drinking milk? You don't have to kill the animal to get the milk so why should it matter? You know what happens at a slaughter house? They buzzsaw the cow's throat open and let it stumble around in a ten square foot pen for thirty minutes while it bleeds out, now that's cruelty. It's a horrifying sight to see.

Nah, it's usually more of a pneumatic press designed to insta murder the cow by punching through the skull after it gets squeezed down the line to calm it down. A long death method usually spoils the meat due to stress and it makes producing the food take longer than needed.

As an aside, cows need to be milked; we bred them that way and without getting milked, they will literally be in pain. So much about that "helping the animal" schtick eh?

 

[fishercat]

As an aside, cows need to be milked; we bred them that way and without getting milked, they will literally be in pain. So much about that "helping the animal" schtick eh?

They could just try and do what PETA does with shelter animals and cull all dairy cows to "put them out of their misery" and then pat themselves on the back for not having to drink milk. Because they care about animals.

 

[Splendid]

A long time ago I read a book, I believe it was "Diet for a small planet" written by a nutcase "environmental vegetarian" named Frances Moore Lappé. In the book, the author said that while they were all for "natural" food, they claimed honey NOT natural, because, "honey is not a food made for Man, but for bees! Our greed for honey is causing a worldwide honey shortage."

This is literally the plot of Bee Movie.

 

[AnOminous]

A long time ago I read a book, I believe it was "Diet for a small planet" written by a nutcase "environmental vegetarian" named Frances Moore Lappé. In the book, the author said that while they were all for "natural" food, they claimed honey NOT natural, because, "honey is not a food made for Man, but for bees! Our greed for honey is causing a worldwide honey shortage." (This was written in 1971 IIRC) Any idiot who knows about other animals raiding bee hives (such as bears or birds) knows this reasoning is BS.

So I guess we should shoot all the bears, since they seem to like it.

 

[Cosmos]

A long time ago I read a book, I believe it was "Diet for a small planet" written by a nutcase "environmental vegetarian" named Frances Moore Lappé. In the book, the author said that while they were all for "natural" food, they claimed honey NOT natural, because, "honey is not a food made for Man, but for bees! Our greed for honey is causing a worldwide honey shortage." (This was written in 1971 IIRC) Any idiot who knows about other animals raiding bee hives (such as bears or birds) knows this reasoning is BS.

Every beekeeper who has even one iota of an idea what they're doing always leaves enough honey for the bees themselves. Letting your bees starve to death just so you can get a little more honey is totally counterproductive.

 

[fishercat]

So I guess we should shoot all the bears, since they seem to like it.

 

[Lunete]

Here is the vegan searching for graze at the local Whole Foods. Look at this magnificent creature queuing ferociously at the checkout, one hand poised carefully on their credit card in readiness, knowing that they are far superior to those filthy meat eaters, as they pay $15 for waffle mix Clearly this is what nature intended.

 

[Ntwadumela]

relax, and maybe even post pictures of your favorite vegan freakouts! I'll start:

A diet with a lack of dairy and meat leads to deficiencies in Vitamin B12 and Iodine, which results in irreversible neurological damage and mental retarDation according to a study.
Source:http://manly.wikia.com/wiki/Vegetarians
Explains why their arguments are full of shit.

 

[Koby_Fish]

A diet with a lack of dairy and meat leads to deficiencies in Vitamin B12 and Iodine, which results in irreversible neurological damage and mental exceptionalism according to a study.
Source:http://manly.wikia.com/wiki/Vegetarians
Explains why their arguments are full of shit.

Speaking of shit, B12 is found in it (because bacteria). How long before some filthy hippie vegan goes, "See you don't need to eat meat for B12, you just need to eat shit."?

 

[Koby_Fish]

Every beekeeper who has even one iota of an idea what they're doing always leaves enough honey for the bees themselves. Letting your bees starve to death just so you can get a little more honey is totally counterproductive.

most of these stupid urban hipster vegans have never farmed in their life, let alone learned anything in school about how animals work.

 

[nacklstheplatypus]

It's a quirk of genetics why caucasians (+ I believe a certain African tribe) are't lactose intolerant. It was more beneficial in the cold, shitty, not sunny areas to get more calcium from dairy as you didn't get enough sun for whatever vitamin it gives you (B4?? D?? I dunno, haven't done biology in a long ass time), so those who didn't get serious bloat when they ate/drank dairy would be stronger, therefore have more kids, so the gene would spread.

Also dairy is great so why would you pass up this nice shit that your farm animals (cause it's not just cow's milk, cause goat's cheese is great, dunno about sheep or other farm animals)?

Besides most farmers will want to have happy, well looked after cows that produce lots of milk as opposed to fucked up, sad cows in pens that don't produce as much.

The reason why some people don't like dairy is because calves are taken from their mothers after their born, which I agree isn't always a good idea. I can understand separating them if mama cow isn't doing her job, but it's not a good idea to always do it.

But there are a lot of dairy farms that don't do that, and consider a hybrid approach, which is letting the calf nurse until she's old enough to wean herself while also socializing her to humans.

How about instead of being against dairy completely, advocate for better practices.

As a sidenote, I think goat cheese tastes kinda gross, but goat meat is wonderful! (And one of the healthiest meats out there!)

"No, you can't be allowed to love animals and eat meat at the same time because I said so."

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Sadly, most of the notes on this post are from vegans calling the OP a lying bloodmouth. Also vets who don't have an all-green diet are giant hypocrites apparently.

I actually know Angrysnakes personally. He supports animal rights, but just not petafag extremists.

I wanna see these people's heads explode at the sight of someone with a pet chicken, but still eats chicken.

Chickens eat meat.

One is a predator and one is prey.

Forgive my sperging, but actually, pigs are both predators and prey.

And teacup pigs are the sweetest things ever.

 

[kidsquid]

The reason why some people don't like dairy is because calves are taken from their mothers after their born, which I agree isn't always a good idea. I can understand separating them if mama cow isn't doing her job, but it's not a good idea to always do it.

But there are a lot of dairy farms that don't do that, and consider a hybrid approach, which is letting the calf nurse until she's old enough to wean herself while also socializing her to humans.

Don't hold me to this as I've never stepped on a dairy farm in my life, but the calves are taken away for the benefit of the mother. She's still milked, her calf still gets the milk and gets a better share of it, and the mother isn't injured in the process as calves can be very rough when feeding, even going so far as to injure the mother because they want milk even if she's not produced it. The mom is sad for a little while but after a short period of time she's back to her usual cow-eyed self, out grazing in the fields without a calf to bother her at all hours.

Also dude please learn how to put multiple quotes in one post, you didn't need to post four times in a row.

 

[Sanshain]

Don't hold me to this as I've never stepped on a dairy farm in my life, but the calves are taken away for the benefit of the mother. She's still milked, her calf still gets the milk and gets a better share of it, and the mother isn't injured in the process as calves can be very rough when feeding, even going so far as to injure the mother because they want milk even if she's not produced it. The mom is sad for a little while but after a short period of time she's back to her usual cow-eyed self, out grazing in the fields without a calf to bother her at all hours.

Also dude please learn how to put multiple quotes in one post, you didn't need to post four times in a row.

Powerleveling a tiny bit here, but I live out in the countryside around a number of dairy farms, and I can safely say that cows don't return to their 'usual cow-eyed selves' after being separated from their calves. Most of them don't stop calling for their calves for days, and even when they do it's more out of resignation than forgetfulness. They might not have long-term memories, but being separated from their calves is still a very traumatic experience. As a dedicated animal-lover, I find the practice incredibly heartless and would fully support it being made an illegal practice. The hybrid approach is far more humane.

 

[nacklstheplatypus]

Powerleveling a tiny bit here, but I live out in the countryside around a number of dairy farms, and I can safely say that cows don't return to their 'usual cow-eyed selves' after being separated from their calves. Most of them don't stop calling for their calves for days, and even when they do it's more out of resignation than forgetfulness. They might not have long-term memories, but being separated from their calves is still a very traumatic experience. As a dedicated animal-lover, I find the practice incredibly heartless and would fully support it being made an illegal practice. The hybrid approach is far more humane.

That's what I mean! I mean the calves can be separated temporarily so they can have their first checkup and the mom can take a quick break but under the hybrid approach they'll be allowed together a good amount of the time.

Also, cows can lightly nudge their calves away if theyre being too rough. A lot of these "neglectful mother cows" sound like worst case scenarios to me.

 

[GingerDixie]

That's what I mean! I mean the calves can be separated temporarily so they can have their first checkup and the mom can take a quick break but under the hybrid approach they'll be allowed together a good amount of the time.

Also, cows can lightly nudge their calves away if theyre being too rough. A lot of these "neglectful mother cows" sound like worst case scenarios to me.

Well, it's not as uncommon as you may think. A mother cow who has had an exceptionally difficult birth (much like ewes and does for sheep and goats) are actually quite likely to reject a calf, especially if it was a twin. It's widely thought to be a survival instinct, iirc.

 

[nacklstheplatypus]

Well, it's not as uncommon as you may think. A mother cow who has had an exceptionally difficult birth (much like ewes and does for sheep and goats) are actually quite likely to reject a calf, especially if it was a twin. It's widely thought to be a survival instinct, iirc.

Well, that's a difficult birth, that makes sense. I'm just saying that if the mother cow seems to "like" her calf enough, maybe keeping them together would be a good idea.

 

[DatBepisTho]

Can confirm infant abandonment in goats, especially the FFAshow/meat variety. Usually one of the twins dies or they up and leave the smallest if more than two are born.

The caged vs. free roam eggs argument vegans make has me in stitches.
Especially in small farm settings which is hella ironic for people who want to avoid mass farm eggs.

Spoiler: Cknspergin

Chickens typically have the intelligence of a toddler at best, meaning they're stupid fucks when it comes to keeping themselves out of trouble (just like toddlers); the cages keep them safe from all the hawks, other wildlife, cats and dogs that would easily carry them off otherwise. More-so if your chickens are mild-tempered and smaller than the breeds typically bred for their meat production value. ( I deal with Barred Rocks and Rhode Island Reds but have ornamental breeds like Sultans and Cochins as well.)

If you mixed the eggs from caged chickens of one farmer with the eggs from someone who lets their birds roam, you're not going to find much of a difference unless one of the hens got into someone's onion garden. They all smell and taste strongly, while the albumen and yolk are very thick, but it generally boils down to diet. Afaik the store-bought ones from mass farms are mellower in taste/smell and easier to crack due to the chickens only having access to one type of edible and one type of edible alone.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

 

[Fiddleford]