Militant Vegans - MEAT IS MURDER, YOU BLOODMOUTHS

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Miss Hortensia said:
Some sorts of beer (usually those with a high percentage of hops) get filtrated to prevent the formation of sediments. In the EU filter agents are often made out of animal charcoal and/or gelatine. Only naturally cloudy beers are "vegan" and "vegetarian".

Ninja'd by @Koby_Fish. You got it, bro. But hey, I'm a German. Beer is our religion.
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Besides, yeast is enough of a plant, that hippies and vegans alike haven't given a shit about it for like, ever. It's why yeast "nutritional flakes" are so popular among the health-minded who also tend to eschew meat.
 
Koby_Fish said:
Besides, yeast is enough of a plant, that hippies and vegans alike haven't given a shit about it for like, ever. It's why yeast "nutritional flakes" are so popular among the health-minded who also tend to eschew meat.
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Yeast flakes are also a good flavour enhancer, they contain monosodium glutamate. It can be hard to create vegan meals that are tasty, so it's often pretty much a given that you have to use yeast flakes.
 
Miss Hortensia said:
Yeast flakes are also a good flavour enhancer, they contain monosodium glutamate. It can be hard to create vegan meals that are tasty, so it's often pretty much a given that you have to use yeast flakes.
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Monosodium glutamate is also verboten because CHEMIKILLZ.
 
Ginger Piglet said:
Monosodium glutamate is also verboten because CHEMIKILLZ.
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hilariously, cooks in China, Japan, etc, have been using MSG for like, ever--before MSG was ever artificially produced. China originally got theirs from mushrooms, while Japanese cooks utilize dried bonito flakes (fish), and wakame and other seaweeds to obtain it. MSG is key to the special "umami" flavors. Chemicals, my ass. When will those exceptional individuals realize that FOOD IS CHEMICALS!
 
Koby_Fish said:
Some breweries use gelatin or casein (tard cum protein)-based clarifiers in their brewing process.
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Miss Hortensia said:
Some sorts of beer (usually those with a high percentage of hops) get filtrated to prevent the formation of sediments. In the EU filter agents are often made out of animal charcoal and/or gelatine. Only naturally cloudy beers are "vegan" and "vegetarian".

Ninja'd by @Koby_Fish. You got it, bro. But hey, I'm a German. Beer is our religion.
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This makes more sense, although there are plenty of vegetarians that still drink fruit and eat gelatin products so it still only applies to hardcore vegetarians and vegans. But if they want to miss out on good food and drink that's their loss.
 
Yeah, a lot of alcohol apparently uses some filtering agents that technically don't count as vegan. More booze for the rest of us!
 
fishercat said:
There's this vegan on a Discord server I know who believes that humans aren't biologically omnivores.
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There are loads of them that claim that. Throw a little biology their way and they just sit there and sputter for a while before saying you're wrong and then running away. We're omnivores, we require certain things and one of them is vitamin B12. This only comes from animal products. You will not find this naturally in any vegetarian or vegan product unless it's been put there. It's a simple fact of biology that they can't ignore even if they try really hard to come up with reasons against it.

Mrs Paul said:
Once I heard that beer isn't vegetarian, that's when I was like, fuck if I'll ever go veg.
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That's one of the reasons that Guinness is considered not-vegan. It's filtered using isinglass which is something they get from the dried swim bladders of fish. So the really hardcore ones won't touch it. And as others have said some use other animal products to help clarify and filter the beer.
 
Phil Ken Sebben said:
There are loads of them that claim that. Throw a little biology their way and they just sit there and sputter for a while before saying you're wrong and then running away. We're omnivores, we require certain things and one of them is vitamin B12. This only comes from animal products. You will not find this naturally in any vegetarian or vegan product unless it's been put there. It's a simple fact of biology that they can't ignore even if they try really hard to come up with reasons against it.



That's one of the reasons that Guinness is considered not-vegan. It's filtered using isinglass which is something they get from the dried swim bladders of fish. So the really hardcore ones won't touch it. And as others have said some use other animal products to help clarify and filter the beer.
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the most hardcore vegans claim that B12 actually comes (originally) from bacteria, thus it doesn't actually "come from" meat. B12 is found in fecal matter which explains how third world actual vegans get B12 (underwashed produce).
 
Just look at this comic:

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Does this (vaguely) qualify?

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Ginger Piglet said:
Synthmeat is the future, but vegans don't like it because it's not natural and also because it "normalises carnism."
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Mark my words. When synthetic meat hits market PETA will say you're eating cow cancer.

The Vegan Society said:
It is possible that in order to overcome the public resistance to IVM [in vitro meat], governments and charities will be asked to fund PR campaigns and meet the research and development costs of IVM.
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This is nuts. If governments have any vested interest in synthmeat, it is to forestall its promotion and set up rules to limit its availability, in order to protect the large constituency of meat farmers.

The Vegan Society said:
IVM will produce inequalities of wealthy meat eaters who will be able to pay for the benefits claimed for IVM - a situation analogous to the current claims made for 'free range organic meat'.
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Tell me this isn't happening regarding organic vegetable produce.

The Vegan Society said:
Furthermore, IVM ignores the powerful vested interests and social forces that create ‘demand’ for meat and that routinely stigmatise veganism. In fact IVM further stimulates ‘demand’ for meat by perpetuating a myth that meat is and will always be intrinsically desirable.
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Meat is intrinsically desirable, just as vegetables are intrinsically desirable. Any "stigma" against vegetable diet is the result from holier than thou vegans.
 
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tumblrkek said:
It's funny to see 57 pages of exceptional individuals sperging on animal rights on social medias while achieving absolutely nothing.

I'm pretty sure that if you adopt a good attitude as a meat consumer (for example buying meat coming from local farms treating their animals responsibly and pass on white-label product), you will do ten times more for the animals than all of these attention seeking morons combined will ever hope to achieve.
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Lol killing something is treating it responsibly? Lmfao. 59 pages of people feeling guilty and using cognitive dissonance while giving themselves heart disease, erectile dysfunction and bowel cancer.
 
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YourUnclesDad said:
Lol killing something is treating it responsibly? Lmfao. 59 pages of people feeling guilty and using cognitive dissonance while giving themselves heart disease and bowel cancer.
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I do think there's a pretty clear difference between intensive animal farming and local, sustainable livestock.
 
YourUnclesDad said:
Yes but in the end they are killed. Killing something that doesn't want to die when it's unnecessary is unethical any way you spin it.
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The minute I figure out a way to safely grow a baconator is the same minute I'll stop eating animals. But do I agree if we are going to kill and eat something it shouldn't exist in absolute misery beforehand.
 
YourUnclesDad said:
Yes but in the end they are killed. Killing something that doesn't want to die when it's unnecessary is unethical any way you spin it.
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I like that idea that all life is sacred and should be respected, but I believe we should also respect the human being and its needs.
The way our teeths and digestive systems are shaped, the way our species evolved and developed a brain with proteins: It's in our nature to eat meat. We're omnivores, there's no avoiding that the majority of us will want to eat animal products, and that's where we can talk about "ethically" slaughtering animals: It is necessary, it is part of a healthy diet.
So no, I don't feel guilty consuming meat coming from animals I know were treated with respect.
 
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