Microsoft is making Windows 10 passwordless - It’s part of a bigger push to get rid of passwords

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https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/11/20690359/microsoft-windows-10-passwordless-password-option-update
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Microsoft is planning to make Windows 10 PCs work without passwords. While the company has been working on removing passwords from Windows 10 and its Microsoft Accounts for a number of months now, the next major update to Windows 10 next year will go one step further. You’ll soon be able to enable a passwordless sign-in for Microsoft accounts on a Windows 10 device. This means PCs will use Windows Hello face authentication, fingerprints, or a PIN code. The password option will simply disappear from the login screen, if you decide to opt in to this new “make your device passwordless” feature.
So why does Microsoft want people to stop using passwords to log into Windows 10 PCs? It’s really simple: passwords suck. People love to reuse them across every website and on their personal devices, and although we have a number of two-factor authentication methods available, it’s still difficult to convince people to use them.
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Microsoft argues that a PIN code is far more secure than a password, even if it seems more simple to use a four-digit code. This is thanks to unknown variables and the fact that the code is stored on a device and not shared online. Windows 10 stores your private key on a device with a Trusted Platform Module (TPM), which is a secure chip that keeps a PIN local to your device only. Servers can be compromised and passwords stolen, but a Windows Hello PIN wouldn’t be affected.
Microsoft has been slowly trying to convince Windows 10 users to opt into two-factor authentication processes like basic SMS, a separate Microsoft Authenticator app, Windows Hello, or even physical security keys with the FIDO2 standard. With the latest Windows 10 May 2019 Update, you can even set up and sign into a Windows 10 PC with just a phone number on a Microsoft Account.
Microsoft is now planning to allow people to remove the password option entirely from the Windows 10 login screen. This will also extend to business users through Azure Active Directory, allowing businesses to go fully passwordless with security keys, the authenticator app, or Windows Hello.
It’s all another step toward a future where hopefully we don’t have to worry about remembering complex passwords, having a password manager, or avoiding reusing passwords. If Microsoft, Apple, and Google have their way then we’ll be using our eyes, fingers, or physical keys that we posses to get into our accounts and devices instead of passwords.
 
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HAHA.. no. Fuck you Microsoft. This better not get pushed to all versions of Windows 10 because I have coworkers stupid enough to do this with their work machines and this will create nothing but headaches for me.

We really shouldn't be dumbing down our security like this.
Eh, I'm all for this in principle. Passwords do suck (especially when managed by your typical corporate IT halfwits), and the attacks on them get cheaper and easier every day whereas the strength of the password paradigm has pretty much maxed out.
My only concern is that this will push lazy developers to just use Facebook/Microsoft/Apple/Google/whatever logins for authentication instead of implementing their own FIDO2 integration. I see too much of that already even now.
3rd party integration is bullshit and the peak of laziness. One of the options for the 3rd party MFA our parent company uses is Google Authenticator and it fucking sucks.
 
I'll settle for nothing less than the feature to provide my complete physiological and biometric data needed to access and log in every time I wanna shitpost on youtube.

Chop chop, Microsoft.
 
I won't be happy until my computer somehow verifies my dick to sign in, especially my work computer. Then women won't be able to use computers anymore, which is how it should be.
 
I hate Windows 10. I have all the auto-updates turned off and it'll still restart my computer while it's sleeping to update. Yesterday I had to re-restart because it restar-updating disabled the M4/M5 keys on my mouse. This update will probably turn passwords off and you'll have to go find a "fix" to turn them back on.

Unless you went in and disabled the auto-restart function like I did. Haven't had that issue since then.
 
Unless you went in and disabled the auto-restart function like I did. Haven't had that issue since then.
Weird, I have a laptop with windows 10 and I did this but it mysteriously reverts itself periodically.

Wait, what? I still have Windows 8.1 and never updated to Windows 10. And I never modified registry settings.
Though tbf my case is only an anecdote.
Said laptop was running windows 7 until I woke up one day and it was windows 10.
 
So they essentially admitted to swiping your passwords? Yeah, I'll pass.
Switch over to linux. It's identical to windows for 90% of use cases and you can give a big "fuck you" to Micro$oft while learning more about computers. Linux mint is a free, simple to use version for people used to windows.

t. Someone who doesn't know how hashing works
 
Eh. It appears you have to purposefully choose to disable it. My desktop only has a PIN lock on it. If the lock is good enough for my phone, then it's good enough for my computer. I'm far more worried about unwanted access to my phone than my computer, if I have to be honest.

Now my job is currently going to Windows 10 devices and having PINs for that shit is insane. PINs to make sure your shit is secure for private use? Sure. For a company? Nah, that's dumb as Hell.
 
Woooooho...... "this means PCs will use Windows Hello face authentication, fingerprints, or a PIN code?" Go fuck yourself.
 
Facial recognition... that makes data. That data is stored. What is to stop anyone from hacking your comp to get that data and use it in a way they use GPS data on a phone to track you? It would DNA foot/fingerprint your comp. What's to stop the feds from using that data?
 
Shit like this is why I've decided to just cut off internet access for my Windows 10 installation. I plan to use it solely for games that I can't get running on Linux. Passwordless logins are just the tip of the iceberg of all the dumb things that Microsoft does with Windows 10. Take a gander at this article if you're unfamiliar.

>not using a pirated copy of windows 7 for everything

I've been running Windows 7 for years but when I upgraded my desktop it didn't jive well with the new hardware (or rather, the hardware didn't jive well with it). I'd get random crashes that went beyond annoying and messed with the system even booting up properly. It's a shame because it otherwise performed perfectly.
 
This is a fucking nightmare. My family has had shit dating back to the 1980s in our household that I'd been playing with since I was a little kid, and never in my life did I ever believe this madness was going to spiral totally out of control like this. I cannot fucking wait for my computer to deny me access because my finger is smudged with a bit of dirt or the lighting conditions shade the wrong side of my face. Passwords are borderline worthless yes, but this system sounds like abject fucking crap. Fuck Microsoft. Fuck computing. Fuck the internet. Fuck this whole show.

 
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