🎭 Dramacow Michael O. Church / michaelochurch

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"I’m almost 30 and my IQ is over 150. I should be an EIR or doing cutting-edge machine learning work, and I’m not, because I was robbed by those fuckers. Yes, they’ll get their comeuppances. I’m sure they’ll fall into the wrong fight. But I suffer every day from what those pieces of shit stole from me. I’m years behind where a person at my level of talent should be."
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What is it with lazy, antisocial midwits trying to claim they're geniuses? If you're so smart then why the fuck can't you learn social interaction and dance through life as a gigachad?
 
Our gentleman apparently missed the memo that if you gotta remind everyone how smart and great you are constantly, you're most likely not. Also intelligent persons usually can put that intelligence to use in professional life, so guess even if he was qualified for positions looking for ph.D's (reading couple of articles won't really count for these, unfortunately) he must have fuckall to show for it. Not to mention that this Danube of Thought seems like a person who'll google himself and start posting in his thread.
 
"I'm sure I could be a professional poker player. I've read a couple of books on it, and it seems a lot easier than the math and CS papers I read."
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This got a chuckle from me. I don't play poker, but I feel like if you're really that good you could just clean up at casinos and work your way up to "pro tournaments" relatively quickly.

"I totally COULD, you guys, I just don't feel like it!" -- Every 12 year old ever
 
Dawg, deplatformed implies you had an actual audience, not being an autistic spaz that people don't want to deal with anymore.
 
One of the Reddit comments LMFAO

"Hey, are you the Michael O. Church? The one exposed Sillycon Valley's misdeeds and bullshit and praised Haskell to the high heavens?

If so, I loved your stuff, man! *Throws panties*

I wish you still blogged about tech."

No way this isn't a sockpuppet or someone fucking with him, holy shit. I don't know if the "Quotes" user is also him because of the Tumblr/Subreddit being made by someone else and having similar quotes, but that's a hoot to look at too.

https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/..._against_president_rodrigo/dhafq4g/?context=3

http://archive.is/UDCzJ (archive is a little fucked, still has all text, but he seems like a dude who COULD DFE)
 
MarineTrainedTard said:
This got a chuckle from me. I don't play poker, but I feel like if you're really that good you could just clean up at casinos and work your way up to "pro tournaments" relatively quickly.

"I totally COULD, you guys, I just don't feel like it!" -- Every 12 year old ever
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I read some books by professionals a while back and a super prevalent attitude is long-term thinking. You get a lot of advocacy for calling it a day or just taking a break if you have a win or loss streak so it doesn't mess with your judgement, and some these guys flat out avoid tournaments and just play online or at various casinos as a day job.
 
awoo said:
"I'm sure I could be a professional poker player. I've read a couple of books on it, and it seems a lot easier than the math and CS papers I read." source
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MarineTrainedTard said:
This got a chuckle from me. I don't play poker, but I feel like if you're really that good you could just clean up at casinos and work your way up to "pro tournaments" relatively quickly.
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It actually has happened:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Phillips_(poker_player)

And funnily enough, Church uses the programming language that the poker guy later worked on (Scala).

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As Stephen Hawking said when asked his IQ: "I have no idea, people who brag about their IQ are losers." It is a measurement of potential. It's how much you reach that potential that counts, not possibilities. If someone is constantly talking about their IQ, it's a sign they don't have any accomplishments to point to.
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Anyone that brags about their IQ online is worthy of a thread here.
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Most definitely. Bonus if it's from one of those bogus online tests. An IQ test is only valid if it's administered in a clinical setting by a licensed professional.
 
JustStopDude said:
"I was deplatformed for no good reason!!!"

Has anyone said this and it was true?
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Any person claiming they were "deplatformed" is 99% chance a lolcow.

Also this dude reminds me of every SovCit ever , he knows better, he is smarter than everyone else, everyone else is wrong.
 
Marco Fucko said:
What is it with lazy, antisocial midwits trying to claim they're geniuses? If you're so smart then why the fuck can't you learn social interaction and dance through life as a gigachad?
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Because everyone is trying to sabotage his good name because they're jealous of him and don't want him to become the next Elon Musk or Bill Gates. How Elon Musk or Bill Gates haven't been torn down by jealous industry veterans in the first place is something that may be beyond his scope of reasoning.
I'm legitimately curious how all these "I'm only infamous because everyone hates me for how smart I am" types are incapable of seeing how they're the only one in their position while there are hundreds of successful people out there he wishes he could be. It's like the old adage "If you bump into an asshole once, you bumped into an asshole once. If you bump into assholes all day, you're the asshole." I know he proclaimed that everyone with good jobs and PhDs are inferior to him, but did he, like, ever reason about why? What's the grand conspiracy here to make sure he never gets a good job?

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I’m guessing we have another “Terry Davis” on our hands. Expect he doesn’t say the n word fifty times a day, and not to mention a leftist.
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But Terry actually had achievements, he actually knows how computers work.

This fag is pretending to be smart while using a JVM language in his spare time. Only autists like Notch are that stupid and pain-intolerant to use a JVM language outside of low-level indian-tier jobs.
 
The Fool said:
I know he proclaimed that everyone with good jobs and PhDs are inferior to him, but did he, like, ever reason about why?
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Maybe because they aren't real deal geniuses, because come on, we all know that a true and honest genius can't hold a job or higher education because haters are sabotaging them all the time!
 
AbraCadaver said:
Hate to tell him but an iq of 150 isn’t as grand as he thinks. Good enough to join the bargain-club that is Mensa, where their average acceptance rate is 1 out of every 50 people of the general population, but let me know when he qualifies for the Triple Nine.
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Mensa takes almost everyone, if you’re a minority of some sort. That’s all it is. It’s like getting in that “who’s who among...” scam. I remember kids in high school doing it and wondering why they sent them a check. I still see that “who’s who” listed on resumes every now and again.

If some punk ass applicant listed “Mensa” on their application I’d toss it so hard they’d have to call the EEOC and make up a new form of discriminatory hiring practice. “Well, Mr Keen, it appears you have violated the double-secret rule of Title VII. Your ass is grass, son.”
 
Reading OPs thread reminded me of something I deal with on a semi-regular interval - Interviewing new staff and more specifically - technical staff.

The interview and technical test are easy - write a rest client and test for certain aspects in the JSON. How complex or simple or even what language used is entirely up to the applicant.

If they manage not to fuck it up we bring them in for an interview to determine suitability and technical understanding - i.e. is this a visa scam, or is the person who did the test completely autisic?

About 80% of tests fail either due to poor design, an inability to understand build tools, (pip, maven, grade, cargo, etc) a complete inability to understand how git or svn works or just really shitty code.

From interviews, 25% fail as it's due to a very clear visa scam, another 30% due to being completely retarded and another 25% due to the inability to answer simple basic bitch questions about design test or code.

Micheal church would fail at pretty much every point of this process despite the 150iq.

His code would be an overly complicated mess written in something esoteric.

The interview process (assuming he got to that stage) would be tidy mixture of complete autism and condescension but he'd fuck up all the basics.

What I'm trying to say is I'd hire someone 'dumber' but who tried and was honest Vs Michael Church any day of the week.

Edit: Haskell is okay but nothing to write home about.
 
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Sometimes MOC says something I completely agree with:

michaelochurch said:
I don't know why people felt a need to let Lena Dunham count as affirmative-action-funny when these days there are plenty of legitimately excellent female comedians.

Lena Dunham is "funny" if you've been living under a rock for so long that you can't imagine the concept of a comedically talented woman. Not only are they out there; they're not even rare. If you say "women aren't funny" in 2019 you're not just sexist– you're also an idiot– but Dunham is... not funny, and really not notably talented in anything, to be honest. She just had parents who knew people who could give her a career.

And if she's the voice of my generation, I'm having my telomeres aged two years so I can claim a 1981 birthday and pass as Gen X.
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https://web.archive.org/web/2019011..._who_went_to_school_with_a_celebrity/edzr5sy/

... Then I look through his reddit posts and find out he preaches feminism to the idiots on r/braincel and I facepalm

michaelochurch said:
I'm a feminist normie who hasn't been "incel" for a long time, but I'm not here to judge you. God, no. Some of the shit I said on the Internet in the mid-2000s... let's just say I can never run for political office. When I was 18 (2001), I got taken in by the same cult and believed some of the horseshit I see people saying on this sub. I had my own Zero's Journey through it, and I'm well aware of the power of wrong ideas that cater to anger.

I understand your anger completely. Previous generations left you with a collapsing, nihilistic culture. Hollywood lied to you: they said the good guy "gets the girl" in the end. (Side note: please stop thinking of women as rewards for good, or bad, behavior. They are people.) And the Boomers destroyed the economy and left a lot of you guys with nothing to do but sit around and feel useless. It sucks, and it's unfair, but it's not women's fault. On the whole, women have it harder than you do. So much harder.

I'm not here to ridicule you because 15 years ago, I was you. And my problems with women were self-created: I was a pathetic, self-pitying asshole who subconsciously sabotaged himself because it was easier to buy into a cult than accept that I was wrong. I got out, though. And you can too. I am here to destroy the logic of this cult that has taken you in.

First, watch this video. Anger spreads, and it overrides rational thinking. The manosphere is full of "thought germs" (or "memes" in the original sense) that are toxic and wrong, but have gone viral. Charismatic anger is one of the most dangerous forces in the world; it led to Hitler and Mao and Lenin/Stalin.

Second, understand confirmation bias. A lot of you guys have bought into this complex of ideas full of circular definitions, like this idea that women are attracted to "Chad". What the fuck is Chad? You say, "the type of guy who gets all the girls." Well, that's a circular definition. You see a guy you don't know with a girl you want and you decide he's "Chad". You're the one being superficial, then. You're conflating an experience (of seeing another man "get" a girl) with a reality that doesn't exist. The danger here is that your wrong assumptions lead to wrong interpretations of fact, which become evidence for those wrong assumptions.

Third, realize that you're indulging in an apex fallacy: that is, comparing the most fortunate of one group to the average case within your own. The reason you guys think women get "easy sex" and all have terrible personalities is because you're all chasing the 5% of women who get an abundance of male attention– the Chadettes. There are plenty of beautiful, intelligent, amazing women who aren't part of that 5%. Dating is, on the whole, just as hard for women as for men. Most of the "easy sex" that's available to women is bad sex. And bad sex isn't just unpleasant for women; it can be dangerous.

Fourth, this misogyny cult is doing you no favors; but if you step away from it, your situation will get a lot better as you get older.Being a single heterosexual man between 18 and 23 truly sucks– being a woman that age is no picnic either, but that's another topic– because there's a supply/demand imbalance: there are far more men who want young women than women who want young men. It gets a lot better after you're 25– so much better, you have no idea.

Fifth, and related to the above, it's not a race. You have plenty of time. Chances are, you'll have far better sex after 25 than before. Olds have plenty of sex; we just don't bother with obnoxious PDAs (sex is a private thing) or brag about what we're doing. Olds are doers, not talkers. Also, you have no idea how hot a smart 30+ woman who knows what she wants is.

Sixth, read up on Cynicism ) and stoicism. Learn Zen Buddhism and start a meditation practice. Focus on virtue rather than the results you get (which are mostly random in the short term). You won't remember, 15 years from now, the sex you didn't get in college– honestly, it's not going to matter– but you will remember the way you acted, and if you acted like an asshole, it'll haunt you (source: personal experience) even when the rest of the world has forgotten.

Seventh, learn about feminism. Not the Sex and the City or Girls– I agree that that stuff's done more harm than good– but real feminism. Read up on Women's Suffrage. Read Alice Walker and Gloria Steinem and Margaret Atwood. Read about what's going on in the Arab world right now. Learn what the female experience really is like– why we needed feminism so badly and why we still need it. For example, most "incels" are men struggling to date because... they're not popular at school. I get it; it sucks. Meanwhile, women in other parts of the world get acid thrown on their faces for attending school at all. Feminism is not this evil force that this sub makes it out to be. And, by the way, no feminist thinks all women are virtuous. Women are (wait for it) human. They have the same range as men. Some are wonderful, even heroic; some are terrible.

Eighth, accept that it's going to take some time. Years, maybe. Work on yourself. Focus on the journey, not the destination. Social skills can be learned; the best way to make a friend is to be a friend. You can build muscle at the gym. If you buy a good sex book and actually read it, and if you're patient enough to learn what an individual woman wants (they're all different) then you'll never have to worry about "Chad", even if you're average-looking. Most importantly, right now, you've got to deprogram yourself. You've got to evict these wrong, odious ideas that are holding you back and becoming an excuse for despair.

I'm not here to pass judgment on you as people, but I want to crush the logic of this terrible internet cult that is ruining the lives of men and women both. Feel free to ask questions and I'll gladly tear apart bad logic or pinpoint the false assumptions that are leading you astray. Or, feel free to flame me and call me names– I can handle that, too, and I've heard it all.
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https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...grievance_misogyny_is_complete_horseshit_and/

Master troll?
(Mention of the fact is going to get me downvoted, but) I used to have a bad trolling habit. Really bad. Like, thousands of hours of time lost being one of the world's best (and I was fucking epic at it; if all my screen names were compiled, a decent shot at historic top 10) at something utterly stupid and useless. 'Twas a mix of sub-clinical, high-functioning hypergraphia and poorly-managed anger. This was around age 18-23, or late 2001 to early 2007 for me. I claimed I was an awesome troll god, but really I was just wasting my life. False pride and denial are powerful forces.
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https://web.archive.org/web/2019011...dhow_come_so_many_of_us_are_quick_to/c1l8x31/

Red revolution when (more angry ranting about corporations)
Corporate capitalism wouldn't work if the young knew how bad the odds actually were. People would not put up with it; there'd be blood in the streets. They accept startup job offers because they feel immortal (being 22–25) and because they're misled about how the regular corporate world will valuate their work experience. (This is the Paul Graham lie that if your startup fails, you can still get a VP-level job at Facebook because of what you learned.) They work long hours because they think they're building useful "career capital" when, in truth, they're only learning how to be slightly more efficient grunts (until they're replaced with shell scripts).

The entire corporate system would be overthrown, violently, if young people had an accurate sense of their real futures. This is not an exaggeration: palaces have been stormed and heads removed from bodies by generations less hopeless than this one. It does not take much. In our campaign against corporate capitalism, the truth is solidly on our side.

We all spend our adolescence in an educational system that, while flawed, is reasonably close to a meritocracy... seeing as it's a system designed by humans. People assume their corporate jobs will be similar. If people knew, at 22, how much corruption, nepotism, and anti-meritocracy exist in the corporate world, they'd take up arms and we'd see executives hanging from lampposts. Obviously, the people in charge do not want that to happen. They need the young losers who do the grunt work to think they have an honest chance. (They don't. Everything good has already been allocated to the generationally well-connected, and even an Elizabeth Holmes–level fuckup won't put them in the doghouse for more than a few years.)
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https://web.archive.org/save/https:...ats_its_experienced_people/ecvfqlv/?context=3

Really salty about Agile (he likes to rant about it)
In today's world of Jira tickets and "Agile" mediocrity, it's better from a financial standpoint to be mediocre. To fit in.

If you're mediocre, you get the same paycheck– and keep it as long as you'd like. If you excel, you risk pissing someone off, or scaring someone higher in rank, and getting fired. Excellence isn't just unrewarded; it's actively punished in 90+ percent of software environments.
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