Metroid general

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What's your opinion on Dread so far?

  • It's good

    Votes: 163 50.3%
  • It's bad

    Votes: 17 5.2%
  • It's too linear, I don't like fusion and I don't like this

    Votes: 17 5.2%
  • It's not as linear as I thought it would be

    Votes: 14 4.3%
  • I haven't played it lol

    Votes: 56 17.3%
  • Where's Super Metroid 2?

    Votes: 33 10.2%
  • I don't care, where the fuck is Prime 4?

    Votes: 25 7.7%
  • Why can't Metroid crawl?

    Votes: 86 26.5%

  • Total voters
    324
Course they still use that Nintendo Power magazine to say that she is always meant to be 198 lbs and such. Even saying that that is just her in the suit is dismissed, as they say that the only way it makes sense for her to do all the things she does is to be a muscular tank.

Even disregarding the fact that power armor does the heavy lifting itself, realism is not in any way a factor in this series.
 
The venn diagram of the people who want Samus to be canonically trans and the people who want her to look like a muscle mommy is a perfect circle.
She's not even a tomboy, she's literally just a magically strong pin up model who wants to be a mom but adam and sylux are both too gay to admit they think she's cute.
Its like when skitty-types try to make link into an "enby" because apparently everything done in a creative medium is actually slight of hand and the reality is in the subtext you can only see through the kind of lens afforded to children of high income american coastal/city families that could afford college and caretakers instead of having to break a sweat to work or having meaningful interactions as a family growing up.

Course they still use that Nintendo Power magazine to say that she is always meant to be 198 lbs and such. Even saying that that is just her in the suit is dismissed, as they say that the only way it makes sense for her to do all the things she does is to be a muscular tank.

Even disregarding the fact that power armor does the heavy lifting itself, realism is not in any way a factor in this series.
Theres no reason she cant be dense. Im not a scientist but I figure density would improve her ability to tank hits too.
 
She's not even a tomboy,
she is, at least she was growing up, she did afterall run off to join the military and pal around with the boys till following the Fed rules was too much for her, she is the classic "military brat+Coalminer's daughter" combo, but in SPACE.

There's always going to be a Tomboy aspect of the character because she's a lone wolf killer for money, her being a superhuman and tall person helps.
 
Course they still use that Nintendo Power magazine to say that she is always meant to be 198 lbs and such. Even saying that that is just her in the suit is dismissed, as they say that the only way it makes sense for her to do all the things she does is to be a muscular tank.

Even disregarding the fact that power armor does the heavy lifting itself, realism is not in any way a factor in this series.
Although she will always be 6'3'' (190.5 cm) to me, dammit
And besides, 198lbs or 90kg for a woman that height is still a fairly normal weight
 
Once again, I really get the sense that people like this miss the appeal of Samus’s appearance.

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She's still hot like this, but yeah.
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At least Samus Aran still looks like a woman, and isn't some childlike character who's actually elderly and thus able to consent.
 
she is, at least she was growing up, she did afterall run off to join the military and pal around with the boys till following the Fed rules was too much for her, she is the classic "military brat+Coalminer's daughter" combo, but in SPACE.

There's always going to be a Tomboy aspect of the character because she's a lone wolf killer for money, her being a superhuman and tall person helps.
Thats fair, but I wouldnt associate wanting to be a mom with a tomboy, perhaps my own definition is incorrect.
At least Samus Aran still looks like a woman, and isn't some childlike character who's actually elderly and thus able to consent.
dont know what you are suggesting, purah seems to be universally agreed to be most attractive in totk.
 
Thats fair, but I wouldnt associate wanting to be a mom with a tomboy, perhaps my own definition is incorrect.
What? why can't a Tomboy want to be a mom? the fuck you think a Tomboy is? a Pooner?

being a sporty girl or palling around with the boys doesn't have anything to do with not wanting to be a mom, though Samus's version of being a "Mom" is the same as adopting a very strange jellyfish shaped Cat.
 
I do not get this. Did anyone say the extra scene was "the antagonist's motivation", or was that just something youtubers pretended was occurring and now everyone accepts that? That is a shit motivation (which to be fair, that one guy points out) and you should be horrified at the idea that was the best retro could come up with.

What? why can't a Tomboy want to be a mom? the fuck you think a Tomboy is? a Pooner?

being a sporty girl or palling around with the boys doesn't have anything to do with not wanting to be a mom, though Samus's version of being a "Mom" is the same as adopting a very strange jellyfish shaped Cat.
No, but a tomboy rejects femininity, while motherhood is the goal of that nature. Every "tom boy" I've ever known either dropped it after school like it was a 00s emo phase, or kept going and became a lesbian. I wouldnt assume a "sporty girl" was the same thing, just as I wouldnt assume a "farm girl" is the same thing, even if both share similarities to the "tom boy"
Again, maybe thats not what tomboy means, thats just the impression I had with the phenomena, something like a youth's expression of insecurities.
 
Finally, I doubt this is nintendo saying "subvert this game now!", and thats a bizarre thing to say considering that Nintendo is fairly strict on how their characters are portrayed.
"b-buht they made a nurse joy black!!!! and SHOCK HORROR!, THERE'S BLACK PEOPLE IN MY NINTENDO GAMES, AND THEY ARE TOLERANT OF FAGGOTS TO THE POINT THE OTHER TWO THIRDS THAT OWN POKEMON DONATED TO ORGANIZATIONS I DON'T LIKE INSTEAD OF DECLARING DEATH TO ALL NIGGERS AND FAGGOTS BECAUSE OF DA JOOOZ!!"

I have this sped on ignore and i'm guessing that's what he basically said with that claim of subversion and chances are I'm going to get a several paragraph response about why the bing bing wahoo company is bad for what they always acted but adapting for the times for attempting to extract extra revenue and for what is SNCA at this point.
 
Btw, this guy still believes that for Metroid to become a best seller and to be respected, it needs to remove any scene of Samus outside her armor and absolutely zero sexualization, even when others try to say otherwise.

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Here is my take on the Samus appearance.

I think its fine if men love Samus if she was "sexy" or "sexually attractive". Same with any other female protagonist.

To me I find the same as women who loves to watch those romantic drama films like Twilight to see a strong muscular man protecting a girl.

I would rather have a sexually attractive female protagonist instead of ugly looking women or worse a troon.
So like a Tranny? Gotcha.
 
"b-buht they made a nurse joy black!!!! and SHOCK HORROR!, THERE'S BLACK PEOPLE IN MY NINTENDO GAMES, AND THEY ARE TOLERANT OF FAGGOTS TO THE POINT THE OTHER TWO THIRDS THAT OWN POKEMON DONATED TO ORGANIZATIONS I DON'T LIKE INSTEAD OF DECLARING DEATH TO ALL NIGGERS AND FAGGOTS BECAUSE OF DA JOOOZ!!"

I have this sped on ignore and i'm guessing that's what he basically said with that claim of subversion and chances are I'm going to get a several paragraph response about why the bing bing wahoo company is bad for what they always acted but adapting for the times for attempting to extract extra revenue and for what is SNCA at this point.
Firstly, Anyone complaining about ZA having black people has never been to france, And second, pokemon negros are weirdly attractive and a real racist would want to racemix with them.
But im also not throwing out how retarded it is to shove black people into everything, or gays, or whatever. There is no reason to do so if the setting doesnt have an excuse for it, and we all know the reason they are put into media is because they dont want white people to have their own stories anymore.
The BLM donation is bullshit, but its also pretty absurd to complain about, pokemon is the biggest IP on the planet, its bigger than mickey mouse, its bigger than starwars, with a value of 130 billion, 200k is legitimately such an insignificant amount (its comparable to someone making the american average salary of 60k giving away a single dime) that I find it hard to read that scenario as anything other than a "stop calling us prease", its such a paltry amount I dont even think it would do much good on taxes unless it was part of a larger trend of donations (this would be the equivalent of the average american trying to write off a 4 dollar donation). They still should have given the money to basically anyone else, but I dont understand people freaking out about it.
 
Firstly, Anyone complaining about ZA having black people has never been to france, And second, pokemon negros are weirdly attractive and a real racist would want to racemix with them.
But im also not throwing out how retarded it is to shove black people into everything, or gays, or whatever. There is no reason to do so if the setting doesnt have an excuse for it, and we all know the reason they are put into media is because they dont want white people to have their own stories anymore.
The BLM donation is bullshit, but its also pretty absurd to complain about, pokemon is the biggest IP on the planet, its bigger than mickey mouse, its bigger than starwars, with a value of 130 billion, 200k is legitimately such an insignificant amount (its comparable to someone making the american average salary of 60k giving away a single dime) that I find it hard to read that scenario as anything other than a "stop calling us prease", its such a paltry amount I dont even think it would do much good on taxes unless it was part of a larger trend of donations (this would be the equivalent of the average american trying to write off a 4 dollar donation). They still should have given the money to basically anyone else, but I dont understand people freaking out about it.
A lot of it comes down to "Nintendo fell to the DEI plauge like every other company" mentality all because of the same terrible localization since Treehouse was established (and the more obvious attempts at keeping largely lighter narrative tones throughout thier recent catalog), doing things like Type 1 and 2 that the rest of the industry followed before them, and more brownies can be seen in thier more recent output when human characters are involved (including letting you play as one in the games where you play as an avatar charatcer), said donations, and even givng any level of support to the actual LGBs out there (ya'know... so they can not leave themselves, just like any other employee by just treating them right), because they can point out these specific things that while bullshit and can tie into the "the media hates the idea of whitey/straighties having thier own stories" to varrying degrees...

Yeah a lot of those suck and for the real bad shit like forcing niggers or women to be front in center all the time, it should be called out, but with what we currently seen with Nintendo, is not as meaningful unless there's can be proven to be an actual incidous pattern, doubly so since many Post-N64 Nintendo stories is ethier some varriation of "The traditional "plot" that only exists as a means to get you to play the game at all" , or something that barely has two dimensional cause and effect, with third party partners being the ones that give actual stories, and VERY, VERY rarely you'll get a story that actually holds up to the same level of scrutiey that almost any other game with a competent story does from the Nintendo Brand in-house studios, and like you said before, Nintendo has astrict standard for how thier mainstay characters are portrayed, compared to the many studios that did get bit by the DEI bug like Volition, BioWare, Ubisoft, and 343i until they got canned five games more than they should have.

The last Switch1/2-era Mario game I cared to see footage for was Wonder and it's still save a fucking kingdom from Bowser plot instead of "Save Peach and therefore the Mushroom Kingdom from Bowser"
The last Mainline Zelda game followed the same 3D Zelda plot outline of "Do a bunch of tasks related to the game design like dungeons and shit and eventually "kill" King Nigger Gannondorf (until he reincarnates because fuck you)
Kirby's whatever the fuck HAL Labs decided to do that week
The Mario spinoffs have basically no story besides the bare minimum of setdressing
And for the franchise this thread is about... Metroid is Samus dealing with the galatic catastrophe that lands on her power suit before she can rest from the last galatic catastrophe, often times caused by space pirates or the space government or has to resist whatever corruptive (or debilitating in rare cases) force she gets slapped with this time (while bullshitting reasons why she can't start with her entire kit each time), and Ravenous looks to be exactly the same even with the trailer not highlighting it's plot
The Pokemon games are basically rising up the rank stories of being "da best" with the box legendarries or some major pokemon doing thier box legendary or major pokemon thing for a sizable portion of it's runtime

And compared to the greatest hits of actual DEI-made games by some of the above studios where you can clearly tell that the story or in some case entire game exists only to push the agendas DEI is known for pushing if the fact that the women in those games were intentionally made ugly or forced fag characters or undertones, or ethier one outright having better roles than even the would be MC, or even outright character ruination to get to that point It's fuckin' quaint, even if arguably bad thing for the games themselves due to them hardley even trying to make good stories by comparison.

Chances are that if any official Metroid game came out today besides Other M, even with any of the complementary backstory about her being a part of the game you could see as a bonus, there would be people who would claim that Samus is a girlboss because she's capable of fighting the space pirate army as well as she does in the game or the "she was chosen to injected with a fuckton of the Bird Jesus genes over trying to do it with a small group", or in Fusion and MurcurySteam's original games' case, "She got injected with the bad species' DNA and lived"
 
terrible localization since Treehouse
Treehouse has just always been shit though, the difference now is that treehosue is both shit and gay
, just like any other employee by just treating them right), because they can point out these specific things
This is another misconception. Japanese law is increasingly requiring disclosure of ESG reporting and while until now (I think next year its mandatory) its been voluntary, Nintendo also uses it as a boasting platform, particularly with their employee retention numbers. Nintendo publishing a yearly report of their employee demographics, employee satisfaction, and factory carbon emissions is not exactly the same as nintendo coming out every year excitedly telling you about how they found a tranny to direct all their games or something. The thing about benefits for gays is also something they did after legal recognition, but before legal requirement, I doubt anyone even takes advantage of it, but again, Nintendo is big on their benefits and satisfaction. People seem to forget that japan is an atheist country that comes from a pagan country, maybe if satan worshiping pedophiles hadnt dropped nukes on the only two centers of catholic power in japan we'd be able to talk about how based nintendo was for banning homosexuals from working there, but it didnt happen, we live in demonworld and japan does not see sexuality the way we do.
The last Switch1/2-era Mario game I cared to see footage for was Wonder and it's still save a fucking kingdom from Bowser plot instead of "Save Peach and therefore the Mushroom Kingdom from Bowser"
miyamoto said the simple plots were for ease of understanding, being able to just pick up a game and know the goal, I doubt they will ever abandon that line of thinking with the 2d games.

And compared to the greatest hits of actual DEI-made games by some of the above studios where you can clearly tell that the story or in some case entire game exists only to push the agendas DEI is known for pushing
This is another thing about how even if nintendo was going "look at our troonarinos" it would be fundamentally different from insomniac or whoever, Nintendo is apparently quite good about meritocracy, its how miyamoto, iwata, sakamoto, etc all got the jobs that let them change the company (or even the industry), even last year there was a former employee claiming this still goes on. So if they are sitting around saying "what metroid game should we make next?" and someone says "lets do a metroid game about samus' fear that her bottom surgery wont be covered by medicaid", that person can be stared at disaprovingly while people who arent retarded talk about real ideas; while in the west, it seems like a given that your publisher WILL be paying 6 million dollars to a consultant who WILL be telling you to put dilation stations in your game so addicted pooners have a safe space in the game to give them time to stop their axe wounds from healing, of course since the company paid 6 million for this advice, you MUST do it.
Chances are that if any official Metroid game came out today besides Other M, even with any of the complementary backstory about her being a part of the game you could see as a bonus, there would be people who would claim that Samus is a girlboss
I sometimes see people claiming that dread/ravenous samus is a "marvel girlboss" because she's too agile and/or too effective.
Shit, I think I've even heard one of those youtube manosphere wannabes with the bitchtits and noodle arms say that, frogmire or synth, I'm fairly certain.
 
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