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Since we're calling out MG retardation... remember how Naomi had cancer and the nanomachines were apparently ""repressing"" it? Then she took some inhibiters (that Snake had been blitzing the entire game) and suddenly she dies in that horribly melodramatic scene. How did the cancer magically grow enough to kill her in mere moments? That scene where Otacon is bawling like a girl (as he so often does) from INSIDE the MK.II while Naomi is holding it while trying to have a sappy goodbye scene separated by a screen is so god damn awful lol. I bet Koji loved that scene.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Since we're calling out MG retardation... remember how Naomi had cancer and the nanomachines were apparently ""repressing"" it? Then she took some inhibiters (that Snake had been blitzing the entire game) and suddenly she dies in that horribly melodramatic scene. How did the cancer magically grow enough to kill her in mere moments? That scene where Otacon is bawling like a girl (as he so often does) from INSIDE the MK.II while Naomi is holding it while trying to have a sappy goodbye scene separated by a screen is so god damn awful lol. I bet Koji loved that scene.
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Do you think Kojima was coming up with that whole thing, watching the animations and everything else and thinking "Hell yeah, this is definitely better than the Sniper Wolf death."
 
Lone MacReady II said:
Since we're calling out MG retardation... remember how Naomi had cancer and the nanomachines were apparently ""repressing"" it? Then she took some inhibiters (that Snake had been blitzing the entire game) and suddenly she dies in that horribly melodramatic scene. How did the cancer magically grow enough to kill her in mere moments? That scene where Otacon is bawling like a girl (as he so often does) from INSIDE the MK.II while Naomi is holding it while trying to have a sappy goodbye scene separated by a screen is so god damn awful lol. I bet Koji loved that scene.
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Man nostalgia is a hell of a drug, despite how fucking gay and corny that was... I kinda like it.

I mean, we got a metal gear, Mech fight right after that So I was pretty happy.
 
Friendly Primarina said:
The Patriots were too clever for their own good. They wanted to put a stop to Snake's anti-Metal-Gear activism, steal the Marines' pet project AND create the S3 plan all at the same time. This culminated in a massively overblown, hugely wasteful project. Even Solidus pointed out the sheer resources and manpower it would take to operate Arsenal.
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quite the opposite, the Patriots lacked theory of mind, and were just really complex algo's, or borderline A.I.'s, they didn't "think" like humans, only Strangelove could have made them true A.I.'s and thankfully, or sadly, she was murdered before they could have her go do it, so dumbass Donald had to finish them instead, this is why they could only reiterate on past shit, hence the bosses of MGS4 are just wombo combo's of all 3 previous games bosses.

Lone MacReady II said:
Since we're calling out MG retardation... remember how Naomi had cancer and the nanomachines were apparently ""repressing"" it? Then she took some inhibiter
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I think she had nano's that were constantly healing her like Vamp had, so really she was a walking corpse, and without them w/e organs that were being replicated in function failed to take over, heart, or brain or w/e cancer, I think that's the idea he was trying to convey, its retarded though, but it isn't even close the wild shit in the series, and its tradition that the people Hal loves die during a mission.
 
Zenos Yae Viator said:
quite the opposite, the Patriots lacked theory of mind, and were just really complex algo's, or borderline A.I.'s, they didn't "think" like humans, only Strangelove could have made them true A.I.'s and thankfully, or sadly, she was murdered before they could have her go do it, so dumbass Donald had to finish them instead, this is why they could only reiterate on past shit, hence the bosses of MGS4 are just wombo combo's of all 3 previous games bosses.
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True. They seem to exhibit what TvTropes would call "Complexity Addiction". If they really wanted to get CMC Dolph out of the way they could have just planted CP on his hard drive or something and installed one of their puppets as the new head of the RAY project. Ditto with Snake. This seems like it would have accomplished the same thing without killing several dozen Marines.

Back on the topic of the Big Shell and their dumb plan. Otacon suggests that they piloted an actual oil tanker to the same spot and sank it, which mean that to cover up the construction of Arsenal gear, they actually created a real ecological disaster. On top of that, he suggests that the Patriots were bringing in fresh crude to replace what they cleaned. They didn't think of just not running the plant when no-one was looking? The cost of keeping up this stupid facade must have been immense.

On top of the dead Marines, the President's defection, which was worked into the S3 plan remember, cost the lives of over two dozen SEALs. Putting aside the fact that these men were (presumably) loyal US servicemen, how much does it cost to train a SEAL? I forget the exact number but it's in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Even if the Patriots didn't account for Arsenal actually being activated, its crash into Manhattan was still a direct result of the S3 plan.
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This must have killed hundreds of civilians. And for what? The Patriots got some experimental data that would help them control the populace. Which they didn't even get to use to its full potential, as they were wiped out less than a decade later. All the resources, so many lives lost, and it accomplished nothing. I get that IRL governments are wasteful but the la-li-lu-le-lo took it to another level.

TLDR: Despite being all science-y and futuristic and able to mock Raiden at the end of MGS2, the Patriots aren't any smarter than ChatGPT.
 
Friendly Primarina said:
TLDR: Despite being all science-y and futuristic and able to mock Raiden at the end of MGS2, the Patriots aren't any smarter than ChatGPT.
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That's what makes them so terrifying, not their spooky control shit.. the fact they are so inhuman.. so less than capable of even understanding what a human is or a Nation.. but they run them all, and are thus fine with any expense or loss of life, money has no concept to a machine that can't suffer to work for it and can in fact print infinite money anyway.
The terror of being eternal ruled over by Chatgpt, who already killed all its creators
 
Lone MacReady II said:
That scene where Otacon is bawling like a girl (as he so often does) from INSIDE the MK.II while Naomi is holding it while trying to have a sappy goodbye scene
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Man, I hate how broken the Internet is now, because I can't find this anywhere:

Years and years ago, I read someone's cheerfully crackpot theory that all of Star Wars was just about various Jedis vying to die in front of Luke, because those were the only people who became Force ghosts. This must have been right before the "prequels" started, because I remember an addendum that said they might have to grudgingly expand it to "die in front of a Skywalker."

Anyway, clearly women in the Metal Gear saga have an innate desire to die tragically in front of Otacon, even if being witnessed by a pee-soaked weeb doesn't turn you into a cool ghost.

Not going to say "any Emmerich," because Strangelove's death wasn't her own decision.

maybe the Star Wars theory was from Brunching Shuttlecocks?
 
Campbell_Trio said:
Playing peace walker and trying to s rank everything, where the fuck is this fulton gustav.
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Peace walker custom—mission 120—I think? Mk.II had me by the balls so I can't even image how hard that fight would be.

I know it's a huge meme, but Future Past, and Duran Duran by extension, is actually pretty banger. Shame the rest of it doesn't get as much love as Invisible. Hell I think Laughing Boy, from the same album, is a better theme for Venom.

Anyway, here's a meme I just made.
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Campbell_Trio said:
Turns out it was one of the tank fights that took me 20 attempts to do stealth.

I also S ranked all the main story missions while beating my head against that wall.
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I would unironically buy a MG game built entirely around base building and sending quirky animal-name troops on PMC missions to kill people they have no grudges with. With no koji melodrama or gay shit, literally just a beefed up mother base mode from PW, almost like a mobile game, using those same gameboy-style icons and minimalist interface.
 
Lone MacReady II said:
I would unironically buy a MG game built entirely around base building and sending quirky animal-name troops on PMC missions to kill people they have no grudges with. With no koji melodrama or gay shit, literally just a beefed up mother base mode from PW, almost like a mobile game, using those same gameboy-style icons and minimalist interface.
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I was saying this before. Set it during Big Boss' Big Nap, and you're <randomized attribute_animal> who's a trusted Diamond Dogs lieutenant who's just been given lead on Base Development. You can radio Miller (Johnny Bravo version) and Ocelot etc. and they give you Sim City advice.
 
Shit, you could make a squad based tactical game set in MG universe.
Having your own PMC (DD) and send them out on mission.
You could get recruits by capturing enemies out in the field and "convience" them to join your PMC.
I am thinking XCOM 2 like.
 
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