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xXx: State of the Union said:
People say they wanted to "See Big Boss go bad" as if that hadn't been every fucking game he was in. I think they really just wanted to PLAY as Big Boss gone bad. (at least I fucking hope, the more I say it out loud the more I just think the loudest MGS fans are fucking retards)
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People are dumb. The only way they'll understand Big Boss as a villain is if they get to play as him literally gunning down parents in front of their children and then abducting them to make fresh child soldiers.
12GameOvers said:
Maybe, but I had fun
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I just don't want zombie survival Metal Gear, I want soldier survivor Metal Gear. I'd love Survive if it had new maps and survival features behind enemy lines. I was even down for weird timeline wormhole bullshit just because of how much I love MGS V's gameplay loop. But when I see dumb crystal zombies shuffling around as the only significant enemy type? No thanks.
 
I'm Not Loying said:
Means a lot coming from somebody using the astroturfed Kevin James meme that got pushed because it's the 25th anniversary of that Died In Iraq-core show.

Kojima is more clever than any YouTube video essay retard regurgitating a version of an untrue fan theory that's been around for about a decade now. Shouldn't need to be said. MGS 4 has problems (duh) but the MGS games outside of Survive done after it are either good or outright great.
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kojima is like tarantino, when he stealing things from other people-media he actually makes pretty good things. kojima left by himself fucking sucks
 
Mega Black said:
I just don't want zombie survival Metal Gear, I want soldier survivor Metal Gear. I'd love Survive if it had new maps and survival features behind enemy lines. I was even down for weird timeline wormhole bullshit just because of how much I love MGS V's gameplay loop. But when I see dumb crystal zombies shuffling around as the only significant enemy type? No thanks.
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The zombies get much more diverse as you get further into the game, almost like Left 4 Dead's special zombies. In the post game, there is also 2 boss creatures that act as the game's equivalent of Monster Hunter missions from Peace Walker, and during select story beats you have a big bastard stomping around you cannot kill, forcing you to hide from him. There is definitely variety here.
Again, you might have gotten the wrong impression that the entire game is like it's tutorial sequence, where you poke slow zombies thru a fence with a sharp stick. That is not the case at all, you will be avoiding them for the vast majority of the early game for fear of nearly insta death if there is more than a few of them and by the time you can easily kill a swarm, you will be introduced to other enemy types. If you wanted a more traditional experience with enemy patrols and what not, that's fine but 1) It would be even more similar to MGS5 then and 2) This would simply not work within this game, period. There is a multiplayer event that summons a Metal Gear Gecko that hunts and guns you down with an auto turret if it spots you, how well do you think this works in a game where even at the highest levels your main weapon is still a bow and arrow of some sort and a melee weapon?
Personally, I'm glad that the game exists since it's something unique and different. The potential it has is limitless, the entire universe of Metal Gear is wide open for it to be explored, if only Konami can stop sucking on gravel for two minutes and make a decision that will actually make them money.
 
blablabla said:
kojima is like tarantino, when he stealing things from other people-media he actually makes pretty good things. kojima left by himself fucking sucks
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Tarantino isn't stealing. He's paying homage.

The biggest difference is that he's shamelessly open about it, and so we wind up with a pair of kickass samurai revenge movies and one hell of a remake of The Dirty Dozen instead of whatever muddled garbage comes out of Kojima's mind as he desperately tries to hide his theft with his own poor writing skills.
 
I'm Not Loying said:
MGS games outside of Survive done after it are either good or outright great.
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He's not designing the gameplay mechanics. He only writes and directs. Anything that's "good" or "great" in anything he had complete control over he had nothing to do with. You cannot get away with that when MGS is as much engaging gameplay as it is with engaging storytelling.

PW is about two guys (Snake and Kaz) lusting over a child and singing robots.

V is about a mute medic that believes he's a war hero and fights a Gundam.

Did I miss anything?
 
Wesker said:
He's not designing the gameplay mechanics. He only writes and directs. Anything that's "good" or "great" in anything he had complete control over he had nothing to do with. You cannot get away with that when MGS is as much engaging gameplay as it is with engaging storytelling.

PW is about two guys (Snake and Kaz) lusting over a child and singing robots.

V is about a mute medic that believes he's a war hero and fights a Gundam.

Did I miss anything?
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Somebody going by Albert Wesker is going to talk about bad writing? Really? You're oversimplifying it the way a faggoty leftist tries to deflect and snark when they're wrong, which is par for the course for "Kojima isn't talented!!!!" people.

Stuff like this is just fancy exposition but I love it. Sorry it isn't Leon Kennedy saying "Where's everybody going, bingo?".


Also, as for comparing Kojima to Tarantino, Snatcher/Policenauts are good games that he did essentially by himself even if Snatcher is just Blade Runner. This "He's an invalid that needs an entire team to help him" is just silly. It's the shit people who go "Actually, you missed the point of the games!" do. Also, most Tarantino films are bad in my eyes so the comparison doesn't work for me. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood is his best one, and it's his most recent one. Kill Bill is ass, Hateful Eight was genuinely bad, I don't even like Reservoir Dogs very much. Death Proof without Kurt Russell would have been mediocre but he's great in it so it's one of my favorites he did.
 
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I'm Not Loying said:
Somebody going by Albert Wesker is going to talk about bad writing? Really? You're oversimplifying it the way a faggoty leftist tries to deflect and snark when they're wrong, which is par for the course for "Kojima isn't talented!!!!" people.

Stuff like this is just fancy exposition but I love it. Sorry it isn't Leon Kennedy saying "Where's everybody going, bingo?".

https://youtube.com/watch?v=bZDAIR5sft0
Also, as for comparing Kojima to Tarantino, Snatcher/Policenauts are good games that he did essentially by himself even if Snatcher is just Blade Runner. This "He's an invalid that needs an entire team to help him" is just silly. It's the shit people who go "Actually, you missed the point of the games!" do. Also, most Tarantino films are bad in my eyes so the comparison doesn't work for me. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood is his best one, and it's his most recent one. Kill Bill is ass, Hateful Eight was genuinely bad, I don't even like Reservoir Dogs very much. Death Proof without Kurt Russell would have been mediocre but he's great in it so it's one of my favorites he did.
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You're making a comparison to RE when it was always written to be cheesy shit, and that's why people like it.

It was never this heavy handed deep narrative you're imagining because you can't come up with a case on why Kojima isn't a D level writer beneath fan fiction.

Even Blaustein and Kaku thought he couldn't write for shit and had to massage his scripts because they were written in crayon.
 
Wesker said:
You're making a comparison to RE when it was always written to be cheesy shit, and that's why people like it.

It was never this heavy handed deep narrative you're imagining because you can't come up with a case on why Kojima isn't a D level writer beneath fan fiction.

Even Blaustein and Kaku thought he couldn't write for shit and had to massage his scripts because they were written in crayon.
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Hey you might love this, it's so bad it's good! LOL! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharknado

Also lmao quoting Blaustein get da fuck outta here nigga
 
blablabla said:
kojima is like tarantino, when he stealing things from other people-media he actually makes pretty good things. kojima left by himself fucking sucks
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Kojima is half Tarantino without the obvious foot fetish. He's also half Nolan for being visually competent but is very shit at storytelling in general, and also has very hokey dialogue (like the funny "big guy 4u" bane plane scene).
 
Wesker said:
You're making a comparison to RE when it was always written to be cheesy shit, and that's why people like it.

It was never this heavy handed deep narrative you're imagining because you can't come up with a case on why Kojima isn't a D level writer beneath fan fiction.

Even Blaustein and Kaku thought he couldn't write for shit and had to massage his scripts because they were written in crayon.
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I love in RE4make that at the end you have Wesker outright telling Ada that Billions Will Die without even a hint of conscience about the whole matter.
 
I genuinely don't understand how you retards managed to miss the point of venom when kojimbo beats you over the head with it.
He was made so characters would have a reason for their schizo opinions of the man raging from HE'S A MONSTER, HE KILLED A WHOLE VILLAGE AND TURNED THE KIDDOS INTO HECKING SOLDERINOS to HE DINDU NUFFIN, HE TOOK WAR ORPHANS AND GAVE DEM EDUCATION N SHIET.
Was it badly done? Absolutely
Was it better done in nippon land where big autist va hasn't changed? Yes
Was it necessary? No
Did we need to know about his double? Fuck no
but it didn't shat the bed in terms of retcons as hard as 4 or shit walker
 
Mega Black said:
That's exactly what I wanted. MGS V - 2.

Wow thanks page 115 of whining about Kojima great posts guys now can you GET A FUCKING ROOM!?
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If it was properly finished MGS V would have been one of the greatest games ever made, it's still pretty great as it is for what parts are finished. The parts of the game about language barriers and different ethnic tribes would have absolutely been expanded on, we probably were meant to get a South Africa map. It's very interesting stuff, I don't get how Kojima is considered a bad writer at all, the fucking subtext of the language problems in that game is how Kojima himself feels limited by language barriers with his own games. Do people not get that?

Also, are people happy snarking about his writing abilities, saying he's a hack? Now he doesn't make MGS games and instead makes walking sims with whichever Hollywood celebrity he's infatuated that week.

Also to try and shit on Kojima having a good sense of humor with Miller and Snake having gay sex (As if Miller isn't extremely hot and a permanent would even after the Ground Zeroes injuries) is ridiculous. The MGS 3 theater clips are great. I haven't watched them in ages and I burst out laughing at a few.

 
Nobunaga said:
but it didn't shat the bed in terms of retcons as hard as 4 or shit walker
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Yet, you can remove V from the series and MGS4 doesn't change at all. It was a pointless venture for Kojimbo and only did it ingratiate himself into pedowood circles.
I'm Not Loying said:
If it was properly finished MGS V would have been one of the greatest games ever made
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I guess we can expect page after page of this long debunked cope from this retard lol
 
Wesker said:
I guess we can expect page after page of this long debunked cope from this retard lol
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Cope! That's the word the kids say! Cope! Can you call me cringe next? Keep going. I think shitting on one of the last good games to get released is working out great for you. I hope you're happy with what the game industry is now!

You use Jeremy Blaustein as a primary source for your opinions, a guy that's actually been debunked for a long time. I'm the wrong one for defending Kojima over some Jew and some crazy bitch? Really?
 
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