Men are write-offs when it comes to novels - Man who can't write for shit says writing ain't no job for a man

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I coped pretty well with the fuel shortage while it lasted, pivoting to bus, train and bicycle with no trouble at all. And I have found ways to cope with the anxieties raised by failures in the supply chain for turkeys, pigs in blankets, Christmas trees, chefs, waiters, kitchen porters, HGV drivers and butchers. But news from the literary world this week that we are facing a dearth of young male novelists has utterly felled me.

What has happened? Where the hell are they? Are they all backed up in shipping containers on the outskirts of university towns, in their elbow-patched tweed jackets and cords, unable to burst onto the London book scene because of haulage issues? Is it, like everything else, the fault of Brexit? Have our brilliant young authors been left to rot in the fields, like courgettes, because we had no itinerant Romanian peasants to bring them in before the first frost? What on earth are we going to do without the Christmas glut of tortured memoirs by young boys from the boondocks who scraped a place on the creative writing course at UEA and now have 100,000 words of closely typed fretting to sell us about their first experiences of shagging?

The Pulitzer prize-winning American novelist Elizabeth Strout has said the publishing industry needs to “mix it up” to ensure that male novelists get equal opportunities. Most fiction editors (who are the ones with the buying power at publishing houses) are women, she says, and buy books mainly by women to sell mainly to women, who do most of the world’s reading. “It makes it too narrow,” she says, which is gallant of her.

According to the book sales data company Nielsen, women wrote 57 per cent of all hardback fiction bestsellers last year (the other 43 per cent were written by Richard Osman) and as far as the big literary prizes go, no men were shortlisted for the Costa first novel prize last year at all, while the lucrative Women’s Prize for Fiction is once again tipped to go to a woman (although if you can get Richard Osman at 12-1 or better, it’s probably worth a tenner). There is also the problem, raised by one unnamed publishing figure last week, that it has become difficult “to write honestly about what it’s like to be a young man, because then you’ll be accused of sexism”.

But, at the risk of being accused of sexism, I think the answer is probably much simpler. I think there are no young male novelists coming through any more because young men have realised that writing fiction in 2021 is no sort of job for a man.

There’s sod all money in it, for a start. Most of the available cash for advances goes to the very small handful of nailed-on bestsellers upon whom modern publishing houses base their entire business plan. As far as men are concerned, that works only for Richard Osman and Robert Galbraith. And Galbraith isn’t even a man. I mean, what chance have you of enticing young men into novel writing when the second most successful male novelist in Britain is a figment of JK Rowling’s imagination? They might as well dream of becoming a golden snitch.

After those two have been paid, that leaves little pots of three or five or at best ten grand for a first-time novelist (assuming he’s not already a famous comedian, and it isn’t a children’s book), as recompense for perhaps three years’ work. And even if he does “make it” as a writer after that, the average salary for a full-time novelist, according to a 2018 survey, is just over £16,000, with fewer than a tenth of 1 per cent clearing £50,000 a year, which is what a chap can currently earn driving an HGV (while consuming nearly as much porn during working hours). Modern women are less venal than men, I suppose, so do not find the prospect of penury quite as off-putting.

Then there’s all the crappy litfests in front of nine OAPs and a cow that they make novelists do in a tent somewhere, unpaid, for reasons known to nobody. Would James Baldwin have done rubbish like that? Or Ernest Hemingway? I suppose he might have fought the cow. But you know what I mean. It’s hard to imagine George Orwell sitting in a sweaty marquee at Hay-on-Wye with literally nobody queueing for a signed copy because they’re all waiting for three seconds with David Walliams, who has a new kids’ book out all about poo.

And, of course, there is the endless Instagramming novelists are expected, nay, contracted to do once the book is out. The traditional young male writer whose creative urge was powered by dreams of fame, travel, sex and general adulation is not going to be turned on by a requirement to do at least ten selfies a day in front of small piles of books in empty warehouses next to the most junior girl in the PR department, who’s looking miserable in the photos because she is not on the gigantic party yacht off Ibiza they’ve chartered to launch a new short story by Sally Rooney. Nothing about this life is very . . . I don’t know, Vladimir Nabokov.

Sorry, I didn’t mean Nabokov. He was a paedo. Name mud, backlist pulped. I meant Philip Roth. Sorry, misogynist. Mailer, whoops, wife-beater. JD Salinger then, hang on, sorry, sexual abuser. These were the men I most wanted to emulate when, as a young man, I dreamt of writing novels as a way out of the drudgery of the family business. I thought it might be the route to power and influence and respect like. . . er, who, in England? Martin Amis? Priapic midget laughing stock. Rushdie? Pompous one-hit wonder. Will Self? God save me from that humiliation. Self was denied the Booker prize in 2012 when Hilary Mantel won it a second time for the same novel, and is now the most ridiculed man in Britain. There is even a new novel out this month, Sour Grapes, about what a plonker he is. But it’s by a bloke, so no one will read it.

Even my own 2005 novel, Winkler, was no sooner in print than winning the Bad Sex Award. Three years of effort, some perfectly decent words in roughly the right order, and all I got was a load of raspberries blown by a roomful of plummy virgins who’d only come for the free soave and strippers. Scorn and mockery, boys, scorn and mockery. That’s all there is in the novelist’s life.

Nor is the hope of remembrance after death any sort of enticement to write. Look at Dickens: wife-abuser. Defoe: racist apologist for colonialism. HG Wells: eugenicist. Evelyn Waugh: antisemite. Orwell: Old Etonian poverty tourist. Finished, the lot of them.

And if there’s no money in novel writing any more, no power, no respect, no sex and no immortality, well then I say we leave it to the ladies. As long as we’ve got our HGV licences and our jazz mags, we’ll be fine.

Worthy of note: The author of this screed wrote what may be the most absurd sex scene published in a book in recent years. A bold claim, but see the evidence for yourself.
 
Just in: I'm shit at sprinting so there's no place for men in the Olympics!

Also how much has this fucker smoked? Going into my local bookstore (Amazon) a lot of the books in the genres I'm interested in are written by man, and searching up the individual authors confirms them as genuine males.
 
Early Life said:
"Coren has been involved in a number of controversies, including breaching a privacy injunction, making statements expressing anti-Polish sentiment, and expressing pleasure at the death of a young writer."

Coren was born in Paddington, London, the only son of Anne (née Kasriel) and English humourist Alan Coren.[2][3] His father had been brought up in an Orthodox Jewish household, but his own upbringing was less Orthodox.[4] He is the elder brother of journalist Victoria Coren Mitchell. He is related to the Canadian journalist Michael Coren.[5]

that said, we can reduce the entire article down to the first two words without losing any value

Giles Coren said:
 
Giles Coren is a restaurant critic and columnist who has been writing for The Times since 1993. A previous winner of British Press Awards food and drink writer of the year, he was also named the restaurant writer of the year at the Fortnum and Mason Awards in 2016. As well as an award-winning journalist, Giles is a television presenter and author.
Restaurant critic, the only profession in the world that's less respectable than being a game journalist.
 
Novel are boring and only catladies read them--- thats why the ladies started to invade genre books...
 
My vision of a nightmare is being stuck with this faggot on a flight.
He would just glance at you every 10 seconds while coughing and looking up his own Wikipedia page in the hope you'll recognize him, so yeah pretty much the worst thing that can happen on a flight not serviced by Malaysia airways
 
What a whiny, self-obsessed faggot.

Being published doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a good writer, as your own weird P G Wodehouse wannabe column here proves.

Hell, Eragon got published and I couldn’t make it 3 pages through that amateurish clichebait.

Rather than take the criticism, and laugh at it, you took it personally. Life isn’t always asspats. Grow up.
 
I like that Giles whines that the only thing he's known for is his shitty sex scene to the point he won the Bad Sex in Fiction Award. Like if you know you're that bad at writing sex and you're sniveling about the lack of male writers writing sex, why don't you step up and put in the effort to better yourself as a writer and be that example to prove to men "See? We can write sex just as well as, if not better, than women!" and be proud of such an accomplishment? Be the underdog you want to see. Like Zorro.

Oh wait, Zorro was always the Chad you never can be.
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I like that Giles whines that the only thing he's known for is his shitty sex scene to the point he won the Bad Sex in Fiction Award. Like if you know you're that bad at writing sex and you're whining there aren't enough male writers writing sex, why don't you step up and put in the effort to better yourself as a writer and be that example to prove to men "See? We can write sex just as well as, if not better, than women!" and be proud of such an accomplishment? Be the underdog you want to see. Like Zorro.

Oh wait, Zorro was always the Chad you never can be.
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Or, alternatively, if you can’t write a sex scene, just don’t have a sex scene. Plenty of great novels have had no sex at all, or a “fade to black” where the scene would be.
 
Or, alternatively, if you can’t write a sex scene, just don’t have a sex scene. Plenty of great novels have had no sex at all, or a “fade to black” where the scene would be.
But then how will the author get his rocks off?

Just realized, too, that the "Bad Sex in Fiction" has a double meaning when compared to this guy. It's not that he sucks at writing sex, and it's not that the sex was just bad between the characters, he just sucked that hard at writing what bad sex looks like. That's embarrassing.

EDIT: Just for fun, someone explained wtf happened during the scene:
 
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I didn’t mean Nabokov. He was a paedo. Name mud, backlist pulped. I meant Philip Roth. Sorry, misogynist. Mailer, whoops, wife-beater. JD Salinger then, hang on, sorry, sexual abuser.
Martin Amis? Priapic midget laughing stock. Rushdie? Pompous one-hit wonder. Will Self? God save me from that humiliation. Self was denied the Booker prize in 2012 when Hilary Mantel won it a second time for the same novel, and is now the most ridiculed man in Britain. There is even a new novel out this month, Sour Grapes, about what a plonker he is.
Look at Dickens: wife-abuser. Defoe: racist apologist for colonialism. HG Wells: eugenicist. Evelyn Waugh: antisemite. Orwell: Old Etonian poverty tourist. Finished, the lot of them.

Maybe the literary world should separate the art from the artist and stop cancelling people willy-nilly and declaring their work haram.
 
I was going to say I liked the chap, because he does raise some excellent points, and seems to be taking the piss.

Then I actually read the excerpt, and dear god, that is awful. My first drafts, the word vomit itself, is still better than that piss, solely because I don't do run on sentences like that. Like, Jesus man, fucking quit if that's the best you can do after your minimum three drafts.

Its not hard you self entitled whigger.

Lesson number one; getting your fucking word choice right.

Lesson number two; vary the word choice.

Lesson number three; stop it with the run on sentences.

Lesson number four; cut the filler.

Lesson number five; detail, detail, detail, start with the five to one ratio.

Lesson number six; keep track of each limb.

Lesson number seven; learn how to properly use similes, because you deserved to be blacklisted for the one about the "shower dropped in an empty bath" alone.

Lesson number eight; finish your ideas.

Lesson number nine; stop focusing on the most boring part of the sex scene.

This is my official statement of support when it comes to bitches in the publishing industry discriminating harder, because if this mans seething is any indication, they are doing it based on quality alone.
 
But news from the literary world this week that we are facing a dearth of young male novelists has utterly felled me.
I cannot go on...you guys finish without me.
 
Being published doesn’t necessarily mean you’re a good writer, as your own weird P G Wodehouse wannabe column here proves.

The majority of novels written are low-quality romance and thrillers. Women are the majority of the readers for romances and thrillers. Women are also the majority of writers of those low-quality novels.

I don't see a problem with that, as long as men aren't blocked from publishing or anything. Let women enjoy their trashy genres, both producing and consuming. As long as men are producing quality works in whatever genres, and women don't whine for 50% representation in awards, sales, or promotional space.
 
Or, alternatively, if you can’t write a sex scene, just don’t have a sex scene. Plenty of great novels have had no sex at all, or a “fade to black” where the scene would be.
H.P. Lovecraft made a career out of writing about scary things that were literally too scary to describe.... the whole "He looked into the face of the abyss and can't describe what he saw since it fried his brain" trope exists for a reason.

Cop out?

Maybe.

But, yeah, sometimes the biggest horror is what we imagine it is (or can't even conceive of) and the best sex scene is the one we imagine the lucky couple having, not what it actually is.

If it's not a porno, do we really need a play-by-play of what tab is currently in what slot?

The shock of a person being shot in a novel about a murder doesn't have to include a forensic play-by-play of the exact way the bullet entered and exited our poor victim.... if anyting, such over-description would be distracting instead of complimentary.
 
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