Memes are found to be not completely accurate. - The left can't meme.

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https://www.factcheck.org/2019/04/meme-gets-an-f-on-college-claims/

Quick Take
A popular Facebook post gives readers a false impression about the recent college admissions scandal and the cost of college for immigrants in the United States illegally.
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Where can you find an inaccurate comparison between the college admissions bribery scandal and the cost of college for immigrants in the U.S. illegally?
Facebook.
A meme that has been shared over 18,000 times makes this claim: “Break the law to enter college, you’re expelled and your parents go to jail. Break the law to enter the country, free college!”
The first part of the claim is a reference to the criminal charges recently brought against 33 parents, who are accused of participating in a bribery scheme to get their children admitted to selective colleges and universities.
It’s true that the parents are facing potential jail time, although none of them have been sentenced yet. So, it’s unclear whether or not they will actually serve time in jail.
Also, not all of the students involved have been “expelled.” For example, the University of Southern California is handling the continued enrollment of each student who was involved on a case-by-case basis. Wake Forest University, however, is allowing a student to remain enrolled since the school determined the student wasn’t aware of the bribery, and Yale University has rescinded the offer of admission to the one student involved in the scandal. (It’s not clear what actions other colleges and universities named in the federal indictments have taken.)
As for the part of the claim that says those who “break the law to enter the country” get “free college,” that’s even more misleading.
In six states, immigrants in the country illegally are barred from having access to in-state tuition, according to data compiled in a recent report from the National Conference of State Legislatures. In 22 states and the District of Columbia, immigrants in the country illegally are allowed to pay in-state tuition rates, but in only 11 of those do they have access to financial aid.
Of those 11 states, only six offer programs that cover the full cost of tuition, or fill in the gap between what students can pay and the remainder of their tuition costs, regardless of legal status. Also, the eligibility requirements for those programs differ, but are generally based on merit, age, length of residency, income, or a combination of those things.
Here’s how the programs in those six states compare:
  • New York has the Excelsior Scholarship, which covers the cost of tuition at state community colleges and state colleges and universities for students who meet the financial-need requirements and plan to stay in the state for the same length of time that they participated in the program. In April, the Excelsior Scholarship was made available to immigrants in the country illegally.
  • California has the California College Promise Grant, which covers tuition at community colleges for students who maintain a 2.0 grade point average and meet the financial-need requirements.
  • Maryland has the Maryland Community College Promise Scholarship, which covers tuition at community colleges for students who maintain a 2.5 GPA, have not already earned a degree, and meet the financial-need requirements. Immigrants who are in the country illegally, however, are not eligible for the state’s program that covers the cost of attending a four-year college.
  • Oregon has the Oregon Promise Grant, which covers tuition at community colleges for students who graduated from an Oregon high school with at least a 2.5 GPA and have lived in the state for at least a year.
  • Washington has the College Bound Scholarship, which is a need-based program that contributes to the cost of college tuition for students who apply no later than the eighth grade and graduate from high school with at least a 2.0 GPA.
  • Delaware has the SEED program, which covers tuition at the state’s community college (it has only one) for students who maintain a 2.5 GPA.
In addition, there are across the country some local “promise programs,” which are either privately or publicly funded tuition-assistance programs that cover the cost of college or career programs for some students. But most of them are not available to immigrants in the country illegally.
So, the amount that immigrants in the country illegally have to pay for college depends on the state or locality in which they live, and whether they meet the requirements of the specific scholarship or grant programs that are offered.
Even in the areas where unauthorized immigrants can access tuition assistance programs, those programs usually don’t allow students to go to any school they choose (most apply to community colleges) and they don’t ensure a complete free ride. According to the College Board, tuition and fees account for only 20 percent of the average budget for community college students and 40 percent of the average budget for in-state students living on campus at public four-year schools.

This is just baffling. The fact that it has been shared 18k times, which is basically nobody. The fact that they spend several hundred words explaining a two sentence meme. The fact that they come to conclusion it is telling the truth for tiny, non-important states like California.

It's a joke you joyless fucks. Jesus.
 
Funny internet messages are funny, not accurate. In other news, grass is still green.
 
This is the most foul "ACHKSUALLY" I've ever read. As James Randi once said, when you get your PhD in your hand your brain immediately loses its ability to say the words "I was wrong." This should be amended with the loss of ability to discern between serious and humorous. Nothing fucks up your brains as much as official documents saying you're smarter than most people.
 
This is the most foul "ACHKSUALLY" I've ever read.
I was just about to say that every leftist meme is essentially this:

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>a joke happens
>WELL ACHKSUALLY
>attempts to debunk the joke in 10k words or less
>because humor isn’t allowed to be subjective anymore

I haven’t had to summon this song in a long time, but the absolute state of the modern world has made it to where I can’t make it through these people’s writings without hearing this play in the back of my mind...

Bake on, my dudes...
 
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The fact that it has been shared 18k times, which is basically nobody. The fact that they spend several hundred words explaining a two sentence meme.
I don't know what's worse. The fact that 18k people took this seriously, or somebody took it seriously enough to refute it.
 
If you think about it, this could just be an elaborate joke where it's the meme format where you keep explaining things in more detail, or, the left can't meme.
 
We are at a point where there are enough retards using the internet that it becomes necessary to fact check memes. I blame Steve Jobs for lowering the barrier to entry so much that anyone can get online. Why can't it be like the good old days when it was just a bunch of fat, greasy nerds sharing warez, porn, and Star Trek ship schematics.
 
We are at a point where there are enough exceptional individuals using the internet that it becomes necessary to fact check memes. I blame Steve Jobs for lowering the barrier to entry so much that anyone can get online. Why can't it be like the good old days when it was just a bunch of fat, greasy nerds sharing warez, porn, and Star Trek ship schematics.
Memes should never be taken seriously enough to fact-check
 
I don't know what's worse. The fact that 18k people took this seriously, or somebody took it seriously enough to refute it.
lol. You think that the 18K people that shared a meme "took it seriously"?
Memes should never be taken seriously enough to fact-check
^^^^ Exactly.

I think one of the contributing factors to the fact that "The Left can't meme", is the condescending arrogance of their belief that everyone that's not in their echo-chamber are stupid redneck cousinfuckers who must believe everything they read. Therefore they MUST try to "debunk" bullshit memes. Not to educate anyone, just to sniff their own farts. This also plays into the "Russian mastermind election tampering" narrative -- because cousinfuckers aren't smart enough to come up with memes, I guess.
 
So basically, yes, in some states some illegal immigrants get a free ride or heavily subsidized tuition. That's still fucking horrifying.
 
I think one of the contributing factors to the fact that "The Left can't meme", is the condescending arrogance of their belief that everyone that's not in their echo-chamber are stupid redneck cousinfuckers who must believe everything they read.
They think this because they're required to believe everything THEY read. They're not allowed to question anything. Naturally they assume people on the other side are the same way, instead of understanding that they got to the other side BECAUSE they question things. Not your average boomer conservative, but for younger people the internet makes it easy for them to see all sides of the debate. They also get to see what multiculturalism looks like even if they don't live it. Want to know what niggers are like? The internet will show you.
 
I remember this kid who babbled about autisic battle facts when we got to watch the patriot in high school as a reward for killing our AP class.

He ruined all the cool scenes rambling on and on about the wrong muskets etc (and im a huge gun sperg).

He was later stuffed in a locker.

Just wanted to share that story, totally not suggesting anything towards the idiot who wrote this...
 
Memes should never be taken seriously enough to fact-check

While I don't know how prevalent this is the fact of the matter is that there ARE people out there that take political memes as gospel especially if they align with their worldviews. The same way tons of people regurgitate facts without checking up on whether they are accurate.


lol. You think that the 18K people that shared a meme "took it seriously"?

^^^^ Exactly.

I think one of the contributing factors to the fact that "The Left can't meme", is the condescending arrogance of their belief that everyone that's not in their echo-chamber are stupid redneck cousinfuckers who must believe everything they read. Therefore they MUST try to "debunk" bullshit memes. Not to educate anyone, just to sniff their own farts. This also plays into the "Russian mastermind election tampering" narrative -- because cousinfuckers aren't smart enough to come up with memes, I guess.

I think you're letting your bias blind you. Fact of the matter is that there are some incredible dumb motherfuckers on both sides of the isle. Granted the person trying to debunk these maymays is dumber than a brick on account of the fact that the type of people to take memes at face value are definitely not the type to be reading a lengthy rebuttal of said memes.



So basically, yes, in some states some illegal immigrants get a free ride or heavily subsidized tuition. That's still fucking horrifying.


I don't know how it is in other states, but back when I was still an illegal alien and went to college in NY I had to register as an international student and the only free shit I qualified for was merit based scholarships. I could be wrong, but I don't expect them San Francisco cocksuckers to offer any better.
 
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