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my third generation S&W (5900 series) ran like a Swiss watch. They should have been much more popular, but by the time they came online the buying public wanted tupperware guns. A damn shame
They were and are excellent DA/SA pistols and it's a shame as today they'd easily be $1000+ as you actually have to machine metal instead of pressing a button and injection molding hundreds of frames at a time.

I'd love a 5906 and a 5903 and the compact model.

Too bad they're getting RARE even on the boomer fudd shit hole known as "GunBroker"
 
Nobody was going to tell me Desert Eagles have threaded barrels now?

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In the wild and on sale even!

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Seems they also sell a threaded barrel upgrade kit for existing DE's for $600.
With suppressors getting so popular, I'm sure it won't be long until we start seeing dedicated subsonic ammo in things like .44 Mag and .50 AE. And a lot of those large bore suppressors will happily eat supersonic ammo. My SilencerCo Hybrid 46M will take full-load .45-70 Gov, which is one of the reasons I went with it instead of an Osprey 45 or Obsidian.

What's the point? They barely run with standard ammo, with subsonic it'll be even worse. Just get a Mark 23 if you want an oversized suppressed pistol. I don't exactly have a pewscience setup but I perceive it as quieter than a suppressed 9mm.
 
Neat. Reminds me of a Galco Executive

I'm gonna suggest a used Chief's special
Thanks. Funny enough, pretty sure Pierce Brosnan wore a Galco Exec in one of his movies too. I looked at it too, but it didn't have enough stability points, and fits more like a traditional shoulder holster with only one loop over the shoulder. It also clips to the pants, and I like that my shirt or jacket can ride up and you can't see anything attached to my waist.

Yeah, I was thinking a Special, but I also wanted a toss around wheelgun, too. I've got the BUL for beating the life out of and not really caring. I wanted a wheelgun that fills a similar role. I think I'd care too much if I get a Chief. Got a buddy who can get me a new 2 inch roscoe for 250 out the door, good price for a beater.

The Spectre is really easy to make, any of you could throw one together. I had to make it off screenshots of the movie, improved some aspects of it so there wasn't anything hanging off and it was a little more form fitting. Also the sizing. The one the guy made for the movie adjusts behind the back with a normal slide keeper. Using the suspender clip means it's one the chest and as simple as adjusting a pair of suspenders.
I'd say everyone should try it once. Really fixes all problems that most have with shoulder holsters, aside from the obvious having it on your shoulder. If anyone wants to build one, I can kind of guide you, but it's pretty simple.
The most important aspect of the improvement is attaching the center strap to the holster instead of the shoulder leather. This drops it down to mid-back and also doubles to suck the holster itself to your body. Keeps it from moving around and also flattens the gun directly to your side instead of being kind of unattached and floating there.
 
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Thanks. Funny enough, pretty sure Pierce Brosnan wore a Galco Exec in one of his movies too.
“Tomorrow Never Dies”

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I guess that one's modified with the piece going from the gun to the belt which kinda defeats the purpose.


What's the point? They barely run with standard ammo, with subsonic it'll be even worse. Just get a Mark 23 if you want an oversized suppressed pistol. I don't exactly have a pewscience setup but I perceive it as quieter than a suppressed 9mm.
I'm really curious how the threaded portion was added. That entire upper is the barrel IIRC (not a separate barrel press-fit into the chunk). Did they leave extra material on the billet and machine the threads into it or weld the threaded piece on after? The finishes are different so I suspect it's welded on after.

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Can't say I've seen too many 49/64"-20 muzzle devices.
 
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My favorite 3rd Gen Smith was the 1076. I owned one years ago that was a former FBI issue gun. Only shot it a few times, but it always ran. It's one of the guns I really regret letting go.
I would be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued by acquiring a third gen Smith currently. Those that have them or had them recently: how difficult was it to get reliable magazines and spare parts for them?
 
They were and are excellent DA/SA pistols and it's a shame as today they'd easily be $1000+ as you actually have to machine metal instead of pressing a button and injection molding hundreds of frames at a time.

I'd love a 5906 and a 5903 and the compact model.

Too bad they're getting RARE even on the boomer fudd shit hole known as "GunBroker"
$1000+ would be fine if they marketed it as a premium defense, target and competition pistol. abandon the notion of police and military sales.
I would be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued by acquiring a third gen Smith currently. Those that have them or had them recently: how difficult was it to get reliable magazines and spare parts for them?
looks like numrich has most small parts in stock and aftermarket mags are available. factory mags are expensive.
 
I'm really curious how the threaded portion was added. That entire upper is the barrel IIRC (not a separate barrel press-fit into the chunk). Did they leave extra material on the billet and machine the threads into it or weld the threaded piece on after? The finishes are different so I suspect it's welded on after.
Welding an extension on wouldn't be the way to do it. Previously what you'd do is bore out the tip of the barrel to an oversize, thread it, and screw a stepped threaded extension into it which is then reamed to be concentric to the existing barrel. The barrel is all one piece, yes, but they probably just leave excess material on the front like the long barrel variants and either thread mill the extension or chuck the breech end of the barrel in a lathe and cut threads on the extension. Yeah, the finish looks different, but the machine finish of the threaded portion is going to be different so it could all be the same process and just looks different where the metal has a smoother finish. I haven't put hands on one so I couldn't tell you what kind of coating it is.
 
“Tomorrow Never Dies”

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I guess that one's modified with the piece going from the gun to the belt which kinda defeats the purpose.



I'm really curious how the threaded portion was added. That entire upper is the barrel IIRC (not a separate barrel press-fit into the chunk). Did they leave extra material on the billet and machine the threads into it or weld the threaded piece on after? The finishes are different so I suspect it's welded on after.

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Can't say I've seen too many 49/64"-20 muzzle devices.

Magnum Research has offered longer barrels for the Desert Eagle for years. Typically 10", but they also offered a 14" barrel many years ago. My guess is they take a 10" barrel, turn it down to just a tad longer than a normal 6" barrel, then thread it and cut the dovetail for the front sight where it would normally be on a 6" barrel. That's what makes sense to me.
 
Welding an extension on wouldn't be the way to do it. Previously what you'd do is bore out the tip of the barrel to an oversize, thread it, and screw a stepped threaded extension into it which is then reamed to be concentric to the existing barrel. The barrel is all one piece, yes, but they probably just leave excess material on the front like the long barrel variants and either thread mill the extension or chuck the breech end of the barrel in a lathe and cut threads on the extension. Yeah, the finish looks different, but the machine finish of the threaded portion is going to be different so it could all be the same process and just looks different where the metal has a smoother finish. I haven't put hands on one so I couldn't tell you what kind of coating it is.
You're probably right about it being a threaded plug. Probably straight 49/64"-20. However I'm pretty sure the 10" and 14" barrels were both a single milled piece. At least I can't find any seams:

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You're probably right about it being a threaded plug. Probably straight 49/64"-20. However I'm pretty sure the 10" and 14" barrels were both a single milled piece. At least I can't find any seams:

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Yeah, they're one piece. What I was saying was that the blanks just have extra material on the front similar to a long barrel blank, not that the long barrels are two piece. That would be very difficult to do safely. Your aftermarket threaded insert to convert an old short barrel Deagle to threaded would have an ID slightly larger than the groove diameter of the barrel itself. The reason you'd shoulder/step the insert would be so that with it seated (torqued fully) it isn't bottoming out on what is the new barrel crown, recessed into the front of the part. If you were to bottom it out inside instead of on the face of the whole thing, you could distort the ID of the barrel itself.

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Yeah, they're one piece. What I was saying was that the blanks just have extra material on the front similar to a long barrel blank, not that the long barrels are two piece. That would be very difficult to do safely. Your aftermarket threaded insert to convert an old short barrel Deagle to threaded would have an ID slightly larger than the groove diameter of the barrel itself. The reason you'd shoulder/step the insert would be so that with it seated (torqued fully) it isn't bottoming out on what is the new barrel crown, recessed into the front of the part. If you were to bottom it out inside instead of on the face of the whole thing, you could distort the ID of the barrel itself.

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Unrelated but the way Chiappa fused the barrel on the Rhino leaving that ugly seam always pissed me off.

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EDIT: I removed the little James Bond strap on the holster and attached the shell cordovan directly to it. Was necessary for the first build and wanted to keep it for a little Bond on there, but it was just an unnecessary extra moving piece.
I noticed that pattern 😎

Very classy.
Yeah, I was thinking a Special, but I also wanted a toss around wheelgun, too. I've got the BUL for beating the life out of and not really caring. I wanted a wheelgun that fills a similar role. I think I'd care too much if I get a Chief. Got a buddy who can get me a new 2 inch roscoe for 250 out the door, good price for a beater
For $250 a Made in Brazil J frame clone ain't too bad.
 
At least my third generation S&W (5900 series) ran like a Swiss watch. They should have been much more popular, but by the time they came online the buying public wanted tupperware guns. A damn shame.
I used to collect the older 2nd gen versions since they were not as well-known as the 3rd gens and were usually cheaper depending on model. I used to have a 659 (all stainless pistol they all had in Reservoir Dogs), a 669 (same gun, just compact), a 439 (blued, not stainless, and single stack), and a NYPD trade in 5946 DAO made in S&W's old Houlton, Maine factory. out of all of them the 5946 was my favorite, with a reduced power hammer spring and Hogue checkered wood grips. Lighter spring brought the trigger pull down substantially.
 
They were and are excellent DA/SA pistols and it's a shame as today they'd easily be $1000+ as you actually have to machine metal instead of pressing a button and injection molding hundreds of frames at a time.

I'd love a 5906 and a 5903 and the compact model.

Too bad they're getting RARE even on the boomer fudd shit hole known as "GunBroker"
Especially the 645 and the 4506, since the 645 and 4506 was used by Don Johnson in Miami Vice and Denzel Washington used two 4506s in Training Day. They are usually more expensive then the 5906s and almost as expensive as the competition/Target Champion/Team S&W 5906s.
 
Unrelated but the way Chiappa fused the barrel on the Rhino leaving that ugly seam always pissed me off.

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Not to get too pedantic but since we're talking about the technical aspects of gun parts, that's just a barrel shroud and it is retained by a spanner nut on the muzzle (barrel nut). With sufficient machining quality it would be possible to make the seam a lot less visible but it would always be that way as it got dirty. The barrel itself is threaded into the frame similar to most other revolvers, it's just a three piece assembly of the barrel, nut and shroud vs the one piece barrels with the ejector rod shroud machined onto them as is typical on something like an old S&W. Some newer revolvers have a flange on the front of the barrel that retains the shroud and that's an inferior design to what Chiappa or Dan Wesson use with the barrel nut.
 
I never had a problem with my deagle but I probably didn't own it long enough before I sold it. I think I put maybe 40-60 rounds of 50AE through it before selling it because I own too many random expensive ammo types. I'll probably buy another one at some point but have a .44 barrel cause I'll def shoot that more as I now own a few .44s.

I used exclusively steinel ammo, they were not on the "recommended ammo" list that comes with the gun. For all you non-deagle owners yes thats a real thing, you can view it here
Lucky you - I just got an email that the gun is NOT under warranty, so I get to soak up the cost of the parts and need to spend however long it's going to take to rebuild the bolt in the hopes the damn thing will work. And for you folks in the gallery - replacement polished chrome magazines are $70 each. I'm just glad I didn't get the gold-plated model. And please, Akran, send me the exact info for the Steinel ammo - JHP or whatever bullet you used, bullet weight, grains (if applicable). These things are as difficult to feed as a kid with food allergies!

They were and are excellent DA/SA pistols and it's a shame as today they'd easily be $1000+ as you actually have to machine metal instead of pressing a button and injection molding hundreds of frames at a time.

I'd love a 5906 and a 5903 and the compact model.

Too bad they're getting RARE even on the boomer fudd shit hole known as "GunBroker"
I was lucky enough to get a 5906 with a laser grip for five bills (plus all the Commifornia extortion fees). It's awesome. I want a 1006 (10 mm) - just because.

I would be lying if I said I wasn't intrigued by acquiring a third gen Smith currently. Those that have them or had them recently: how difficult was it to get reliable magazines and spare parts for them?
Magazines are easy - I walked into a gun store and found a MecGar. I don't know about other parts, and I don't really think it will need them. It's built like a tank. I knew someone (now deceased) with a very early model 59 and he never had a problem with it.
 
link, "This is hotter than many commercially-available loads of 50 AE."

I think Aria Ballistics offers .50 AE ammo. They are a boutique ammunition manufacturer who offers a wide variety of ammo, including many obscure and hard to find calibers like .475 Wildey and .475 and .500 Linebaugh, as well as more common calibers like .41 and .44 Rem Mag and .454 Casull. They also do rifle cartridges and shotgun shells. They specialize in hunting ammunition and their big bore magnum handgun ammo is pretty damn hot. I have some .44 AMP ammo that I ordered for them in anticipation of getting my Auto Mag (which I doubt I'll ever see). One loading is a 300gr soft point at 1400fps and 1305ft. lbs., and the other is a 205gr solid copper "Jack Hammer" hollow point at 1600fps and 1165ft. lbs. They've got some .475 Wildey loaded to nearly 2000ft. lbs.

I know the Desert Eagle prefers hot loaded ammo, so you guys might want to check them out.
 
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