Mega Rad Gun Thread

Anakin Soywalker said:
In what universe are striker guns safer than hammer guns? How? DA trigger pull weight will always be more than a striker.
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I blame Sig and their 320 fiasco and not you guys for getting this one wrong gents. Its not your fault, its the world you grew up in.

Also, if you are the type of retard to use a holster with no trigger coverage you are the type of retard to blow off your nuts.

TLDR: Exposed mechanics more prone to enviromental tampering and fowling leading to mechanical problems.

Let's just assume this conversation orbits around well regarded mainstream firearms. Your Glocks, M&Ps, HKs, in striker fired flavor vs the 1911s, HiPowers, 226s, M9s etc.

Then count potential mechanical failures or broken parts required to have a genuine accidental discharge.

You can accidentally cock or half cock a hammer if something brushes the back of your gun. Lint can fall on the back of a firing pin. A drop can bend things. Your firing pin is theoretically (in a Final Destination bullshit sort of way) whackable, and (this is an actual issue sort of way) fowlable from liquids and fine particles.

Having all of your safeties internal and a retained striker is a much more robust way to minimize parts wear and interference.
 
Boney said:
I blame Sig and their 320 fiasco and not you guys for getting this one wrong gents. Its not your fault, its the world you grew up in.

Also, if you are the type of retard to use a holster with no trigger coverage you are the type of retard to blow off your nuts.

TLDR: Exposed mechanics more prone to enviromental tampering and fowling leading to mechanical problems.

Let's just assume this conversation orbits around well regarded mainstream firearms. Your Glocks, M&Ps, HKs, in striker fired flavor vs the 1911s, HiPowers, 226s, M9s etc.

Then count potential mechanical failures or broken parts required to have a genuine accidental discharge.

You can accidentally cock or half cock a hammer if something brushes the back of your gun. Lint can fall on the back of a firing pin. A drop can bend things. Your firing pin is theoretically (in a Final Destination bullshit sort of way) whackable, and (this is an actual issue sort of way) fowlable from liquids and fine particles.

Having all of your safeties internal and a retained striker is a much more robust way to minimize parts wear and interference.
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I have never in my life heard of a hammer getting accidentally cocked. In fact most are too heavy to be accidentally cocked.
 
New Sub2000 pistol. The size looks good but I think that handguard is going to be a problem with suppressors, and at a glance it looks like the bolt reciprocates into the brace and won't function if it's not deployed. Basically a poor man's flux raider at $599 for the gun or $799 with a cheap vortex optic and the spare mag holder. The optic is $170 on amazon so doesn't look like you're saving anything buying the package unless you want the 27 round pmags
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Romulus augustulus said:

M14 Announcement​

Civilian Marksmanship Program▸M14 Announcement

Announcement. By special authorization, the CMP is pleased to announce the future availability and sale of surplus M14 rifles. Prior to sale, the rifles will be modified to be permanently and irreversibly semi-automatic rifles. The modified semi-automatic M14s will be fully compliant with CMP enabling legislation authorizing the transfer and sale of military surplus .30 caliber rifles.


Details. The CMP anticipates first order fulfilment in the late 2026 to early 2027 timeframe. More details will be published on the M14 order submission process, pricing, limits and sales channels (mail order and physical stores) at a later date. Proceeds from the sale of these and other historic firearms allow the CMP to teach firearms safety and marksmanship, conduct competitions, and provide scholarships and youth programs, nationwide.


Background. Designed by John C. Garand, the M14 is the direct descendant of the M1 Garand rifle. It is a 7.62 rifle officially adopted as the U.S. Army’s service rifle in 1957. The Civilian Marksmanship Program is singularly authorized to modify these rifles and make them available for sale to eligible US Citizens.
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Link for this curious. Will archive later.
 
gernig said:
Small guntuber North Wind Aerial made a video explaining how he lost lost a testicle to an accidental discharge. He says the firearm "accidentally" discharged while the gun was in his holster, impacting into his penis, scrotum and left testicle
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This is why I can never appendix carry. If I shoot myself once doing that, I might as well shoot myself twice.
 
Bogliacci said:
I can put my thumb on the hammer and make sure it's not going back as I holster retard that's it that's literally the reason why they're safer than striker fired. The hammer isnt going to magically be pulled back and go forward.
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Yeah buddy, thats not a mechanical advantage between one mechanisim or the other. If holstering with proper technique you can't shoot yourself with a striker fired either.

Reputable striker fired guns have more robust safeties then hammer guns. Specifically for the use case of Every Day Carry, this is an important feature in a long list of superior features that make striker fired pistols a better choice.
WhoBusTank69 said:
But if it does, it would be really bad! Then you would be so, so sorry that you'll come back and rate my posts Winner!
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I'll make a Winner out of all of you.

Once you remove all the potential failure points by using the right tools for the job, the only remaining one is you, and you can work on you. That is a cozy place to be.
Romulus augustulus said:
I have never in my life heard of a hammer getting accidentally cocked. In fact most are too heavy to be accidentally cocked.
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I can't recall an occasion it has happened to me or anyone else. Buuut, the idea a hammer is too heavy to be cocked by being pushed on by a cumbersome heavy thing being carried or somesuch other fabricated scenario seems like an odd comment.

Being very unlikely is not the same as not being feasible.
 
Made my own CETME zeroing tool out of a 5/16 bolt because nobody makes them anymore apparently.

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Fun (frustrating) fact: The CETME front sight isn't centered and moves in an oval shape. You cannot adjust the elevation without the windage moving. Probably doesn't matter for a battle rifle issued to conscripts but it really makes you appreciate G3 sights.

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Boney said:
Reputable striker fired guns have more robust safeties then hammer guns. Specifically for the use case of Every Day Carry, this is an important feature in a long list of superior features that make striker fired pistols a better choice.
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What makes striker fired a clear winner? I can't say I have much experience carrying, but I'm tempted to think that when it comes to striker fired, DA/SA, and SA guns it seems to boil down more to preference and individual training, no?

Edit - and it goes without saying that a flintlock pistol is by far the best way to carry without a doubt
 
PP Police said:
What makes striker fired a clear winner? I can't say I have much experience carrying, but I'm tempted to think that when it comes to striker fired, DA/SA, and SA guns it seems to boil down more to preference and individual training, no?

Edit - and it goes without saying that a flintlock pistol is by far the best way to carry without a doubt
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Most striker fired guns do not have a fully cocked striker, so the striker dropping prematurely at least in theory would not impact a primer with enough force to set it off. This combined with trigger safeties makes carrying them very safe indeed, barring anomalies like the P320 which has a fully cocked striker with a tiny spring and probably the most retarded sear/striker engagement in production today.
However, user error defeats most safeties so Glock leg will never truly disappear.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Most striker fired guns do not have a fully cocked striker, so the striker dropping prematurely at least in theory would not impact a primer with enough force to set it off. This combined with trigger safeties makes carrying them very safe indeed, barring anomalies like the P320 which has a fully cocked striker with a tiny spring and probably the most retarded sear/striker engagement in production today.
However, user error defeats most safeties so Glock leg will never truly disappear.
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A DA/SA or a DA revolver is the most safe. the trigger pull weight makes a accidental pull nearly impossible.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
A DA/SA or a DA revolver is the most safe. the trigger pull weight makes a accidental pull nearly impossible.
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I will agree that they are safer at rest, but with some caveats in regards to accidental pulls.
Personal trigger time helps surpass greater trigger weights, worn parts move more smoothly and even new production revolvers have some scary short and snappy pulls where if you combine all three can result in a Tex Grebner situation with one lapse in judgement.

Nothing is retard-proof. Worry about yourself and you will be fine.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
A DA/SA or a DA revolver is the most safe. the trigger pull weight makes a accidental pull nearly impossible.
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Not a pistol though. And I'd argue you are less right about trigger weight and more right because of the profile and exposed moving parts of the gun. If the cylinder, hammer, or trigger meet resistance in the action it will all get gummed up and save you from a ND/AD.

Also, sir, the black bears you are carrying for in the woods are not the black, er, bad guys most people are concerned for. Innawoods open carry puts hammer fired on the table in a way I would never oppose.
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
Most striker fired guns do not have a fully cocked striker,
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What guns are you thinking of? Pretty much every modern striker fire pistol I can think of save for the Glock is a fully cocked striker. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, most of those designs also have working firing pin blocks and trigger safeties.

WhoBusTank69 said:
so the striker dropping prematurely at least in theory would not impact a primer with enough force to set it off.
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From the testing I've seen, a Glock at its partial cock position still has enough energy in the striker to ignite at least some brands of ammo.
 
DocAwe said:
BM-59 > M14
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It's amazing that a country that was half destroyed by Germans and half destroyed by allied air bombing managed just 10 years later to just add a magazine and chamber the garand in .308 and ended up with a better weapon than the US in much less time.
 
How many billions of hours have AIWB holsters recieved at this point?

  • Don’t carry Sig Products
  • Don’t buy the cheapest horseshit holster you find on Amazon/Temu/Your local gun store
  • Don’t watch Instagram and IDPA faggots who convince you that reholstering is something that needs to be done quickly. Take the whole god damn thing out and put it back in.
Guess you could say he was using ball ammo.

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TheOtherSideofMakeBelieve said:
New Sub2000 pistol. The size looks good but I think that handguard is going to be a problem with suppressors, and at a glance it looks like the bolt reciprocates into the brace and won't function if it's not deployed. Basically a poor man's flux raider at $599 for the gun or $799 with a cheap vortex optic and the spare mag holder. The optic is $170 on amazon so doesn't look like you're saving anything buying the package unless you want the 27 round pmags
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Kel-Tec made a batshit marketing video for it too.
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