Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Anakin Soywalker]

Biden doesn't change metallurgy retard. They need more pressure because shorter barrel. Barrel needs to be way tougher as a result. Holy fuck. Also it's horizon.

For once I actually agree with you that the short barrel fad is gay, but are you being dense and obtuse on purpose?

 

[WelperHelper99]

For once I actually agree with you that the short barrel fad is gay, but are you being dense and obtuse on purpose?

I thought I explained it pretty well. Less barrel, more pressure needed to get it going, which means a tougher and more expensive barrel is required. If you have a better explanation, go ahead

 

[Romulus augustulus]

For once I actually agree with you that the short barrel fad is gay

Which is why my rifle has 24 inches! and when i get a .270, it's going to have 26 inches.

 

[AGPinochet]

not a mainline infantry weapon

This is for SOCOM, #1 Superfans of the MK.18 and 11.5 URGI.

That's a barrel burner

Armad/GNB-200 plus this new PXT rifling might solve that. In addition, SOCOM can just swap barrels willy nilly. Even they have a minimum standard of 8k rounds and IIRC the M4 barrel is supposed to be replaced every 6k rounds.

Ask the XM7 how that's going

Just because the M7 is a bad gun doesn't mean we can't have Super 5.56 (A guy on X calculated 3000+ fps with a 62gr projectile out of an 11.5 based on the 82k psi number)


Short gun with long gun performance = more better in military contexts even with enhanced parts wear.

 

[Boney]

I thought I explained it pretty well. Less barrel, more pressure needed to get it going, which means a tougher and more expensive barrel is required. If you have a better explanation, go ahead

I'm not sure you even know enough about what you are talking about to be worth talking to...

Less barrel is more valuable then more velocity. The holy grail is a barrel which is both short and has high velocity.

The M7 sucks for many reasons. The program itself was a huge flop asking for incredibly demanding performance hoping to somehow get it for free.

 

[WelperHelper99]

This is for SOCOM, #1 Superfans of the MK.18 and 11.5 URGI.

Armad/GNB-200 plus this new PXT rifling might solve that. In addition, SOCOM can just swap barrels willy nilly. Even they have a minimum standard of 8k rounds and IIRC the M4 barrel is supposed to be replaced every 6k rounds.

Just because the M7 is a bad gun doesn't mean we can't have Super 5.56 (A guy on X calculated 3000+ fps with a 62gr projectile out of an 11.5 based on the 82k psi number)


Short gun with long gun performance = more better in military contexts even with enhanced parts wear.

I'll believe this when I see it. I was sold the same bill with the M7. Physics doesn't change. Metallurgy really hasn't changed for decades, not by much. Kinda stupid to change a good thing they already have.

I'm not sure you even know enough about what you are talking about to be worth talking to...

Less barrel is more valuable then more velocity. The holy grail is a barrel which is both short and has high velocity.

The M7 sucks for many reasons. The program itself was a huge flop asking for incredibly demanding performance hoping to somehow get it for free.

Ok 2024 join date. I have a background in welding. I've actually had to study metallurgy as part of my schooling. I've also shot guns since I was 8. I own several. You can find them if you dig in this thread far enough. Happy?

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Got muh Vortex in today and threw it on fits quite well and the bolt turn gives just enough space to not touch the eyepiece, got all weekend to tinker with it get the eye relief right.

 

[Boney]

Ok 2024 join date. I have a background in welding. I've actually had to study metallurgy as part of my schooling. I've also shot guns since I was 8. I own several. You can find them if you dig in this thread far enough. Happy?

Literal laugh out loud retardation. I stand by my opener.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Literal laugh out loud retardation. I stand by my opener.

I understand your argument btw. It's dumb. Not every gun needs to be a gay race gun that's about to beat itself half to death.

 

[Boney]

I understand your argument btw. It's dumb. Not every gun needs to be a gay race gun that's about to beat itself half to death.

You really just don't know what you are talking about man, being a welder is neat (I'm going to buy my first TIG soon) but it doesn't give you any credibility in this.

There are resources on this site and many others to clue you in. I neither want to shit up the thread or shit on you. Just tiresome to read bad takes I guess so I jumped on yours.

Race guns usually (generally) opt for super light weight 16"-18" builds with skinny barrels and gentle gas systems.

Combat rifles/carbines trend towards shorter with beefy gassing.

 

[WelperHelper99]

You really just don't know what you are talking about man, being a welder is neat (I'm going to buy my first TIG soon) but it doesn't give you any credibility in this.

Of course you're a TIGger.

Combat rifles/carbines trend towards shorter with beefy gassing.

A M16A4 is not short. We should have stayed there. It was fucking peak.

 

[Boney]

Of course you're a TIGger.

A M16A4 is not short. We should have stayed there. It was fucking peak.

I mean so was Woodland M81 but things evolve man. Aesthetics are a whole different conversation. Pic related.

 

[Romulus augustulus]

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Got muh Vortex in today and threw it on fits quite well and the bolt turn gives just enough space to not touch the eyepiece, got all weekend to tinker with it get the eye relief right.

I'm a fan of Vortex. I've got a Vortex Viper HD 2-10 and a Leupold VX-3HD 4.5-14 which are roughly the same price and the vortex has superior glass.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

I'm a fan of Vortex. I've got a Vortex Viper HD 2-10 and a Leupold VX-3HD 4.5-14 which are roughly the same price and the vortex has superior glass.

It's my first it's a HS venom 6-24 30mm tube and 50 outer lens they had a sale on Midwayusa something like 40 percent off so I pulled the trigger and quite true for the money they're solid.

 

[POWER IN MISERY]

Not every gun needs to be a gay race gun that's about to beat itself half to death.

who here has a race gun? we like to call ourselves "MP5 and Friends"

 

[Falcos_Commisar]

Specs are
-Must be compatible with both "Hypervelocity" and standard 5.56 Ammunition
-Proposal implies ammunition solution will be called "M855A1+"
-This appears to be an Upper replacement program and not a contract for new rifles.
-Barrel is to be between 11-12inches
-Ammunition will be at or below 82k psi chamber pressure, but the rifle must also be able to withstand pressures beyond that to future ammunition developments
-1 MOA, No 10 round group can exceed 2.5 MOA
-Will be designed around us with a Huxwrx Black Magic until it can be replaced with a dedicated

11.5-12 inch barrel confirmed and it'll have a next Gen suppressor on it nearly 24/7

You can pretty easily make accurate hits out to 400m with 11.5, and that length has been used since vietnam on the xm177e2 so they have reliability for it down pact. It really do make it more maneuverable when combined with a suppressor and you don't lose that much lethality, especially when combined with the high pressure ammo they want. For high speed low drag government murderers it makes sense to want a gun that can go from broom closet fighting to open fields.

Even then open fields = 300-400 meters max

Armad/GNB-200 plus this new PXT rifling might solve that. In addition, SOCOM can just swap barrels willy nilly. Even they have a minimum standard of 8k rounds and IIRC the M4 barrel is supposed to be replaced every 6k rounds.

That new metal allow is a "we'll see". Speaking of metals, if hexvalent chrome is the boogeyman, what about nitriding the barrel?

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Got muh Vortex in today and threw it on fits quite well and the bolt turn gives just enough space to not touch the eyepiece, got all weekend to tinker with it get the eye relief right.

Ok that's it, a 6.5mm CM Ruger Hawkeye and a .30-06 Winchester Model 70 Alaskan for my modern Mausers

 

[pro drivor]

nigga just get a barrel long enough for all the powder to burn why are we arguing over that

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This is how a daughter should be raised. Every young girl should have a gun and know how to use it.

 

[Muskie]

This is for SOCOM, #1 Superfans of the MK.18 and 11.5 URGI.

Armad/GNB-200 plus this new PXT rifling might solve that. In addition, SOCOM can just swap barrels willy nilly. Even they have a minimum standard of 8k rounds and IIRC the M4 barrel is supposed to be replaced every 6k rounds.

Just because the M7 is a bad gun doesn't mean we can't have Super 5.56 (A guy on X calculated 3000+ fps with a 62gr projectile out of an 11.5 based on the 82k psi number)


Short gun with long gun performance = more better in military contexts even with enhanced parts wear.

I think the real issue with the "super 556" idea is incompatibility with old rifles. There is a reason this request is going through SOCOM, I wouldn't trust grunts not to stick this stuff in a old M4 or 249 and blow up guns. I wonder how they will configure the gun to run on both standard and high pressure ammo.

 

[Ill]

I think the real issue with the "super 556" idea is incompatibility with old rifles. There is a reason this request is going through SOCOM, I wouldn't trust grunts not to stick this stuff in a old M4 or 249 and blow up guns. I wonder how they will configure the gun to run on both standard and high pressure ammo.

I don't think it will fit in a standard chamber, isn't the request to replace the entire upper?

 

[Muskie]

I don't think it will fit in a standard chamber, isn't the request to replace the entire upper?

If they make the chamber longer like 38/357 guns you will encounter the same problem those guns have. Shooting a lot of the shorter cartridge will build up carbon at the far end of the chambers and cause jams with the longer ammo.