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quaawaa said:
You can brace yourself against a tree or carry a tripod or use walking sticks that convert into shooting sticks. There are countless ways to get stability in the field. After the scope is dialed, it's literally the same same shooting at 100 yards unless you're using shitty ammo, there's a lot of wind, or you have Parkinson's.
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I disagree.
 
The last time I went hunting was 2008 on the Pronghorn Antelope hunt. My dad and I had been putting in for it since the mid-90s and finally drew two tags. Went out by Vernal, UT. Saw a little herd of one male and three females. I got off the ATV and started making my way towards them in a dry river bead. Dad stayed on the quad to keep an eye on them. When I came out of the river bead dad met up with me and said to hop on because the herd had moved north. We took off after them and came to a dirt fire road. We got along parallel with them and I got off. They were about 500yds out and there wasn't much cover, just some scrub oak, so I slung my rifle over my back and crouched down to duckwalk as far as I could.

I made it about 90-100yds until the scrub oak ended and there was nothing left but open ground between me and the herd. I sat down to take my shot...and sat on a fucking cactus. Cactus needles in my right ass cheek. So I had to put all my weight on my left cheek, brought up my rifle (Remington 700 in .270 Winchester), and lined up the crosshairs on the male. He was still about 400yds out but giving me a good broadside shot. I aimed right at his spine expecting the bullet to drop at that range. I touched off the shot and the herd scattered. The male was to the left of me and he wheeled around and started running to my right. He suddenly stopped right in front of my and was facing me directly. He had run about 25-30yds closer to me. I figured I had missed the first shot and couldn't believe he stopped. I quickly worked the bolt, lined up my second shot, aimed right for the center of his throat figuring the first round had gone under him, touched off the shot, his head jerked backwards and he dropped. First shot had hit his left hind leg, went through his scrotum and blew out his balls, and went through his hind right leg. Second shot nailed him right through the right eye and blew his skull open.
 
Hunting seems cool I guess but have you spent all weekend smashing clays going thru hundreds of shells?

Anyone ever "fit" a shotgun? My used browning has a big old spacer in the buttpad so I measured LOP and it's 15". Took out a little over half an inch in spacers and the gun feels way less unweidly. I clearly have a fit problem as the last shoot I ended up with some bruising on my face, sign of bad fit.

Had an aphipany, that the same type of drill I practiced for action pistol (drawing and dry firing at a target, getting hands to meet eyes consistently) is the same type of drill you could do for clays. Read about putting a flashlight in the barrel and mounting the gun over and over. Gonna try that and see if the scores improve.
 
Boney said:
I don't assume people who fall into this are stupid, only misinformed by an oversaturated market that plays on the ignorance of its customers.

Ultimately, its a result of idiots making 5 star unboxing reviews and not holding the manufacters responsible for gunslop. Also the drooling retards like the pewpewtactical guys who just shill retarded shit. Here a PSA 9mm AK makes their fucking list but the Banishee only gets a special snowflake category nod. https://www.pewpewtactical.com/pistol-caliber-carbines/

If you feel the need to have a gun but realistically know you aren't going to shoot it enough to have its particular idiosynchrisies or logistics actually matter, the most important factor is "goes bang every time" so you should probably just get a Maverick 88.
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Brother, I think you are lost in the sauce. Most people who want a blowback PCC just want something that will kill bad guys, should the need arise. They probably aren't even watching youtube reviews most of the time.

I get that. I wouldn't exactly be "recommending" a Hi Point 9mm carbine, but if some broke kid bought one for home defense, I wouldn't criticize their decision. Much like I would never recommend a 12 gauge or a manual action firearm, but if someone bought one for defense, I wouldn't be criticizing them either. Ultimately, having something reliable that puts holes in bad guys is the most important thing.

T-800 said:
Maybe dont buy so many guns and use that money to move to a better neighborhood.
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It unfortunately does not work like that. All that happens is that you go broke just for the feds to fecal smear your new sleepy White hamlet, just like they did to the old one.
 
Romulus augustulus said:
take that 500 yard shot under the stress of just having climbed 1500 feet of steep elevation. take that shot from a compromised position with no rests. there's grass and brush so prone probably isn't an option. one the first shot you need to put your bullet into a ~8 inch zone of a likely moving animal that might be moving in-between trees and other obstacles.

There are very few people who could ethically shoot a deer at that distance. very few.
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You’re not wrong. I’m specifically referring to Texan and many other deer hunters who climb into a deer stand and wait with their bipod equipped rifles for the deer they’ve trained to frequent with automated feeders.
 
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Blasterisk said:
But if you kill people unoptimally (in a self-defense situation) you might lose out on milliseconds (or less) per unoptimal kill. Then you'd really have egg on your face for buying a PCC.
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Good point! I have it on good authority that pistol calibers can't kill people since they only put holes in people, so clearly a PCC is basically harmless. Thankfully, I EDC a 10 inch Zastava ZPAP92 in 7.62x39 so I can bypass that problem.
 
Mister Fister said:
What's wrong with a shotgun? I'm actually genuinely curious here, I'm saying this as someone who owns an AR-15 already. I've seen shotguns get recommended for home defense all the time, are those guys here wrong?
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The idea is sometimes floated around that because of the spread inherent to a shotgun, novice/panicked shooters have a better chance of scoring hits.

The truth is that most shotguns don't spread noticeably across the average indoor space while being much harder to manage in terms of recoil and length than equivalent carbines/PCCs (gasp not a PCC!!) while also having significantly reduced magazine capacities (5 to 8 rounds versus 30+)

Shotguns are fine for what they do, but if they were optimal for killing humans more militaries would issue them.
 
Mister Fister said:
What's wrong with a shotgun? I'm actually genuinely curious here, I'm saying this as someone who owns an AR-15 already. I've seen shotguns get recommended for home defense all the time, are those guys here wrong?
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Nothing is "wrong" with it. It will be an adequate nigger whipper in a variety of situations, plus you can use birdshot for most your training to save money. My personal issue is the following: low capacity, large ammunition, manual action, slow load and reload, heavy recoil with standard defensive loadings, idiotic fuddlore making normalfags think they can spray and pray with shotguns, and the guns are long. I think the guns being long is the biggest problem; most people don't really think about the fact that their shotgun is fine at a range, but they can't even walk out of their bedroom door with it at the ready because the muzzle is an extra 2+ feet out in front of them, and their place is not actually as big as a gun range is.

Also, shotguns overpenetrate like a motherfucker even after going through a soft target like Paco or Jamal with the standard 00 buck loadings. Any time I know someone with a 12 gauge shotgun, I recommend #4 buckshot for that reason. Foster slugs are also a decent defensive pick that's easier to find, but the recoil on those is pretty stout.
 
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