Mega Rad Gun Thread

[Duke Nukem]

Not everyone's a sperg.

THE DEAGLE IS THE GREATEST PISTOL EVER MADE! You're all just a bunch of nerds for denying it.

This guy's logic is incredible.

 

[Dr. Mario]

Who the fuck is Jace? Btw, It's just my favorite pistol, take it easy people.

GodJesus, where do you live, North Korea?

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[exball]

I actually like the desert eagle. It would probably break my arm if I shot one though.

 

[Duke Nukem]

Who the fuck is Jace? Btw, It's just my favorite pistol, take it easy people.


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Brazil? I thought they were at least semi-legal there. But if you really want that Desert Eagle, you can always become an American

 

[Dr. Mario]

Brazil? I thought they were at least semi-legal there. But if you really want that Desert Eagle, you can always become an American

Just for military, police and stuff.
Looking foward to become a Canadian citizen.

 

[Some JERK]

No shame in liking wheelguns. I prefer them to automatics a lot of the time. I plan on getting a few in the near future.

I appreciate their simplicity, ability to function in harsh environments, and lack of safety mechanisms. They say that in a crisis, adrenaline will turn hands with fingers into flippers. I know with enough training that becomes far less of an issue, but i'm really not the most co-ordinated person who ever lived (from a fine motor skills standpoint) so i'd rather just have guns that go bang, and if they don't all I have to do is pull the trigger again instead of the tap-rack dance. Yeah a bullet could jump crimp and jam up the cylinder, but if that happens I still have a 3 lb stainless steel club. ( I guess i should mention that i'm not concerned about gunfights or fending off multiple attackers or anything. My firearms are there to protect against wild dogs and black bears.)

 

[Carlson]

I appreciate their simplicity, ability to function in harsh environments, and lack of safety mechanisms. They say that in a crisis, adrenaline will turn hands with fingers into flippers. I know with enough training that becomes far less of an issue, but i'm really not the most co-ordinated person who ever lived (from a fine motor skills standpoint) so i'd rather just have guns that go bang, and if they don't all I have to do is pull the trigger again instead of the tap-rack dance. Yeah a bullet could jump crimp and jam up the cylinder, but if that happens I still have a 3 lb stainless steel club. ( I guess i should mention that i'm not concerned about gunfights or fending off multiple attackers or anything. My firearms are there to protect against wild dogs and black bears.)

Revolvers still take some precision to operate. You're less likely to get a situation that requires manipulating the gun to get it to fire, but reloading can be just as or more complex than reloading a semi-automatic. The only way to get it truly identical to a semi-auto pistol is through moon clips that simply go into the cylinder and come out with the empty casings when you're done; speedloaders still need you to twist or push or squeeze or whatever to get the cartridges out, and don't even get me started on loading individual rounds.

Loading individual rounds is why I'm hesitant to advocate shotguns for home defense to anyone but really dedicated professionals. With almost every shotgun on the market, you have fewer than 10 shots and you need to reload one round at a time. There's so much that can go wrong, especially if you get a gun like the Remington 870 where the spring-loaded shell elevator causes shells to pop out if you don't firmly shove them into the magazine (to say nothing of getting gloves trapped in it).

 

[Duke Nukem]

Just for military, police and stuff.
Looking foward to become a Canadian citizen.

Sounds like what the politicians are trying to do here in America. But I think you can own a pistol in Canada.

Revolvers still take some precision to operate. You're less likely to get a situation that requires manipulating the gun to get it to fire, but reloading can be just as or more complex than reloading a semi-automatic. The only way to get it truly identical to a semi-auto pistol is through moon clips that simply go into the cylinder and come out with the empty casings when you're done; speedloaders still need you to twist or push or squeeze or whatever to get the cartridges out, and don't even get me started on loading individual rounds.

Loading individual rounds is why I'm hesitant to advocate shotguns for home defense to anyone but really dedicated professionals. With almost every shotgun on the market, you have fewer than 10 shots and you need to reload one round at a time. There's so much that can go wrong, especially if you get a gun like the Remington 870 where the spring-loaded shell elevator causes shells to pop out if you don't firmly shove them into the magazine (to say nothing of getting gloves trapped in it).

I somewhat agree with you, I do believe the shotgun can be a good home defense weapon per shot, but the pump types would have to remain loaded all the time for it to be effective, and I'm not one to advocate that. Huge risk. I would rather just use a detachable magazine shotgun, and the Saiga 12 and MKA 1919 fulfill that role, if you can afford the hefty price tag.

As for me, I was saving for a Saiga 12, but rushed to grab another order of 7.62x54R for my Mosin and PSL. No big deal, I always get the urge when my paycheck arrives. I just hope this Ukraine thing blows over and/or sanctions don't affect availability of RU weapons. I still want an automatic shotgun, though.

 

[The Dude]

I've said it before, the only reason anyone would want a Desert Eagle is so they can feel better about having a tiny penis. They are Porsche Boxster of the gun world.

 

[Some JERK]

Revolvers still take some precision to operate. You're less likely to get a situation that requires manipulating the gun to get it to fire, but reloading can be just as or more complex than reloading a semi-automatic. The only way to get it truly identical to a semi-auto pistol is through moon clips that simply go into the cylinder and come out with the empty casings when you're done; speedloaders still need you to twist or push or squeeze or whatever to get the cartridges out, and don't even get me started on loading individual rounds.

Loading individual rounds is why I'm hesitant to advocate shotguns for home defense to anyone but really dedicated professionals. With almost every shotgun on the market, you have fewer than 10 shots and you need to reload one round at a time. There's so much that can go wrong, especially if you get a gun like the Remington 870 where the spring-loaded shell elevator causes shells to pop out if you don't firmly shove them into the magazine (to say nothing of getting gloves trapped in it).

No speedloaders for single actions. But my opinion is that if i can't hit or kill it w 6 shots then 6 more aren't really going to do me much good. Like i said i'm not worried about prolonged gunfights against multiple armed humans. I'm concerned primarily w dangerous animals. If i recall right, however, the FBI statistics state that over 90% of self defense shootings against humans involve no more than 3-4 shots anyway.

 

[Carlson]

No speedloaders for single actions. But my opinion is that if i can't hit or kill it w 6 shots then 6 more aren't really going to do me much good. Like i said i'm not worried about prolonged gunfights against multiple armed humans. I'm concerned primarily w dangerous animals. If i recall right, however, the FBI statistics state that over 90% of self defense shootings against humans involve no more than 3-4 shots anyway.

I believe the vast majority of these shootings involve street muggers and assaults, where you're in immediately close range and have little chance of missing with proper technique. Should a fight last longer than the first few shots, you'll almost inevitably be faced with ammo issues.

The biggest danger for that is probably home defense, as you can't carry extra ammo with you when responding to the bump in the night in most cases. And it's very likely that if the guy you spot shoots first, your first response will be getting behind cover and firing rapidly to keep his head down. Higher capacity is vital for that, because you're restricted to whatever's hanging off the gun and what you can stuff in the waistband of your boxers (unless you sleep nude, in which case get some rubber gloves handy). If you've only got 6 or 7 shots, you're going to find yourself empty very quickly.

That's why I tend to advocate semi-automatic rifles with high capacities, like an AR-15 or an AK, for home defense. Along with many other advantages, you've got plenty of ammo already in the gun without having to reload.

 

[exball]

You're forgetting revolvers look fucking awesome.

 

[Some JERK]

yeah home defense is another issue. I have dogs and a shotgun for that. It's hard to stay behind cover or shoot at someone while 3 large dogs are going after you.

 

[Dr. Mario]

I've said it before, the only reason anyone would want a Desert Eagle is so they can feel better about having a tiny penis. They are Porsche Boxster of the gun world.

Don't spread the word!

 

[exball]

I like the sound a desert eagle makes.

 

[The Dude]

Right now the only thing Magnum Research makes that I want is one of their custom 10/22's with the graphite barrel and their BFR in .45-70 Govt. People like Jace have completely soured me on the Desert Eagle. Plus, if I'm going to own a magnum, I want a revolver. Less complicated, more reliable, and they take a lot more skill to shoot proficiently. Especially when you're shooting double action. I was quite proud when I finally learned to shoot a double action revolver quickly and accurately.

Here's basically a list of the guns I plan on having in my collection in the next year or two.

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Smith and Wesson Performance Center 629 Competitor .44 Magnum.


AR15 with an ARAK-21 modular gas piston upper and the stock I'll be putting on it.





PWS Mk218 gas piston AR in 7.62x51mm/.308 Win


SIG Sauer SIG556Xi in 7.62x39mm that takes AK magazines.


Beretta 92 with custom compensator.





Chiapa Rhino in .357 Magnum



Heckler and Koch HK45c Tactical.




SIG 1911


And this is how my AUG will look when I've got it all decked out.

 

[Some JERK]

That 629 is gorgeous. I'm also a fan of the 1911 platform AND SIG, so how could you go wrong with a SIG 1911?

 

[The Dude]

That 629 is gorgeous. I'm also a fan of the 1911 platform AND SIG, so how could you go wrong with a SIG 1911?

Oh yeah man. That 629 is one of the few modern Smith and Wessons that I want. Most of the S&W revolvers I plan on buying are made between 1955 and 1970 because that's when Smith and Wesson's build quality was at it's peak. S&W's revolvers during that time frame had pinned barrels, recessed chambers, and a very high quality blued finish that S&W lost the formula for in the mid-70's. I plan on owning a Model 27 or 28 (.357 Magnum) with a 4" barrel, a pair of Model 57s (.41 Magnum, my favorite handgun cartridge) with 4" barrels that will be a couple of my carry guns when I get my CFL again, and a Model 29 (.44 Magnum) with an 8 3/8" barrel...because fuck yeah, Dirty Harry.

And, yeah, the SIG1911s are awesome. The build quality on them is superb and they have upgraded them by adding external extractors that are much more robust than the typical internal extractors that most 1911's have.

 

[Some JERK]

Oh yeah man. That 629 is one of the few modern Smith and Wessons that I want. Most of the S&W revolvers I plan on buying are made between 1955 and 1970 because that's when Smith and Wesson's build quality was at it's peak. S&W's revolvers during that time frame had pinned barrels, recessed chambers, and a very high quality blued finish that S&W lost the formula for in the mid-70's. I plan on owning a Model 27 or 28 (.357 Magnum) with a 4" barrel, a pair of Model 57s (.41 Magnum, my favorite handgun cartridge) with 4" barrels that will be a couple of my carry guns when I get my CFL again, and a Model 29 (.44 Magnum) with an 8 3/8" barrel...because fuck yeah, Dirty Harry.

And, yeah, the SIG1911s are awesome. The build quality on them is superb and they have upgraded them by adding external extractors that are much more robust than the typical internal extractors that most 1911's have.

I got my 29 from my grandfather... who bought it in the late 50's because "fuck yeah, Elmer Keith". (he also gave me a reproduction Colt Walker. Do you have any black powder guns, Dude?)

I've never fired a SIG that i didn't want to steal. (mostly 229's and 226's, but I tried out a p220 once upon a time.) i've never shot a SIG 1911 though. I hear they are every bit as nice as you say.

 

[The Dude]

I got my 29 from my grandfather... who bought it in the late 50's because "fuck yeah, Elmer Keith". (he also gave me a reproduction Colt Walker. Do you have any black powder guns, Dude?)

I've never fired a SIG that i didn't want to steal. (mostly 229's and 226's, but I tried out a p220 once upon a time.) i've never shot a SIG 1911 though. I hear they are every bit as nice as you say.

I have a Knight's Rifles .50 DISC inline muzzle loader. I dig the Walker Colts. In fact after modern semi-auto firearms the guns of the late-1800's are my favorites. My personal favorites of that era are the Sharps rifle, the Winchester 1873, 1876, 1886, 1892, and 1895, the Smith and Wesson No. 3 topbreaks especially the No. 3 Russian and Schofield, the Colt Thunderer and Lightning, and the Remington 1875. Virgil Earp carried an S&W No. 3 while he was Marshal of Tombstone, AZ and used it at the OK Corral gunfight. My favorite pistol calibers from that era are the .44-40 WCF which was the most widely used caliber both pistol and rifle, the .44 S&W Russian which is what the .44 Special and .44 Magnum are based on and was one of the most accurate calibers of that timeframe, the .45 S&W Schofield, and the ubiquitous .45 Colt. My favorite rifle calibers are the .45-70 Govt, the .45-110 Sharps, and the .405 Winchester which was one of Teddy Roosevelt's favorite calibers. He used it for bear, moose, and African big game including elephant. I plan on getting a pair of Uberti Smith and Wesson No. 3's either a pair of Schofields in .44-40 WCF or a pair of Russians in .45 Colt. The No. 3s were never chambered in .45 Colt because Colt wouldn't allow anyone to chamber their firearms in that caliber, but it's the most common and affordable "cowboy" caliber. I also plan on getting a new Winchester 1873 (Winchester brought them back last year) in either .45 Colt or .44-40 WCF, depending on which pistols I get, a Winchester 1886 in .45-70 Govt, a Winchester 1892 with large loop cocking lever in .44 Magnum, and an 1895 in .405 Winchester if I can find one. I will also be getting a Shiloh Sharps rifle in either .45-70 Govt or .45-110 Sharps. Shiloh makes the best Sharps rifle, even better than the originals. The rifle in Quigley Down Under was a custom Shiloh Sharps that Tom Selleck himself bought to be used in the movie and they had to hold filming for 1 1/2 years while they waited for their turn on the waiting list for the rifle to be made. The Shiloh's are truly custom rifles because you get to order the style, caliber, wood quality and finish, style of sights, barrel length, weight, and style, and a number of other personalized touches. They are pure works of art. Check out their website if you don't believe me. There are a few other companies that make Sharps-style rifles, but none of them are even in the same universe as the Sharps in terms of quality, craftsmanship, fit, finish...everything.