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(CNN) — Natalie Sanchez heard it in her children's voices when their birthday parties were canceled and saw it on their faces when they couldn't play with friends.
It was more than just simple disappointment. It was fear that the world they once knew might have changed forever.
"I think that it's something that's going to kind of scar them. I don't think that they'll forget," says the mom of three in Little Rock, Arkansas. "In our life, there was a before and an after this."
When the novel coronavirus started spreading, many of us hoped the surge of widespread shutdowns would turn out to be short-lived -- little more than a blip on our collective radar. Now, a year into a worldwide disaster that's upended our society and left more than 2.6 million people dead, the conversation has changed.
The moments when it seemed like all of this could be momentary slipped away long ago. It's no longer a question of if this pandemic will shape an entire generation. But how.
Some experts have started to use a new term to talk about seismic changes they're seeing -- changes that could cause ripple effects in children's lives far into the future.
They've given a new name to the world's newest generation: Gen C, or Generation Covid.
"Covid is such a big mega-event in human history," says Haim Israel, head of thematic investing for BofA Global Research, who described Gen C in a widely cited report last year. "It's going to be the most defining moment for this generation."


Who's in Gen C?​

The term Gen C first started popping up in media reports early in the pandemic. More recently, investment analysts like Israel and children's rights advocates have taken to using variations on the phrase.
Defining a generation isn't simple. The names we use to talk about groups of people born in any given period can change over time -- sometimes because what seemed to be a defining event later turns out to be less influential than other forces at play, sometimes because a different term gains momentum and sticks.

Israel's definition of Gen C includes children born from 2016 to the mid-2030s -- because, he says, the changes we're witnessing are so dramatic that even kids born years after the pandemic ends will still see it shaping their lives.
"They're going to be different," Israel says. "They're being defined by a completely new world."
Asked who comprises Gen C, experts in other fields shared different guidelines with CNN.
A senior adviser at the United Nations Children's Fund said all children should be included -- especially those who've had points of transition in their lives disrupted. A sociology professor said college students shouldn't be left out. A mental health expert noted children aged 7-9 are particularly vulnerable.

Everyone agreed that we need to keep a close eye on what's happening to kids -- and that children born during the pandemic and living through major developmental milestones right now are an important part of this generation.
"The first 1,000 days are so critical in development," says Jennifer Requejo, a senior adviser for health and HIV at UNICEF. "While countries are focusing on a response to this pandemic, it's important they don't lose sight of these vulnerable time periods in children's lives. There are some very important issues that can't be set aside."

How the world looks to this new generation's youngest members​

A baby stares wide-eyed at the camera as familiar music plays.
It's the tune of the classic children's song -- "If You're Happy and You Know It." But the words in this TikTok version are different.
"If you're a pandemic baby and you've been in quarantine your whole life so you get overstimulated by everything 'cause all the strangers that you see have masks on, and you've never really had a playdate in your life, clap your hands."

But she also sees a positive side.
"My hope is they'll be a stronger generation," she says, "because we've been through a lot in a year."
Frank Danko, a 27-year-old supermarket manager in New York, says his family spent far more time together due to the pandemic than they would have had a chance to do otherwise. That gave him a chance to have more one-on-one time with his daughter Adriana, who's now nearly nine months old. No matter what happens next, he says, Adriana and the other members of her generation will experience it together.
"My baby, she's going to grow up however the world is," he says. "It's what she knows."

The pandemic will affect kids in different ways​

We don't know how the world will look post-pandemic. That could take months, years or even decades to discern.
We do know that parents are worried, many kids are hitting the wall and the most vulnerable children are even more at risk. The president of the American Academy of Pediatrics warns that what started as a public health emergency has become a mental health crisis for children and adolescents. And UNICEF says its data "uncover a devastating and distorted new normal for the world's children."
But scholars say dissecting the problems of the present isn't the only way to think about Gen C's future. There's also a lot we can learn from the past.
"I'm seeing so many similarities...just in terms of the inequalities that were there all along but become starkly apparent during a time of crisis," says Lori Peek, director of the Natural Hazards Center at the University of Colorado Boulder. For their book, "Children of Katrina," Peek and co-author Alice Fothergill followed hundreds of children to see how the devastating 2005 storm shaped their lives.

"The patterns were clear that low-income African Americans were the most exposed in Katrina, and they suffered the most protracted recovery and the worst impacts," Peek says. "And the same thing is happening in the pandemic."
People of color are dying and getting sick at higher rates, Peek says, and children of color are disproportionately out of school. And those inequalities, she says, need to be not only acknowledged, but also factored into recovery efforts.
It's a takeaway Jonathan Comer's found in his research, too. The professor of psychology and psychiatry at Florida International University has studied the effects of terror attacks like 9/11 and the Boston Marathon Bombing on children. Often, he says, the situations children's families were in before disaster struck -- and the support they received afterward -- played a bigger role in shaping the longer-term mental health impacts than anything the children directly experienced.
"It's too early to tell, of course, what the overall character of this generation will look like and how the mental health of this generation will be affected in the long-term," Comer says. "But it seems that there's not going to be a universal character or personality impact, because the burdens of these times are not shared equally."

How this generation compares to children of the Great Depression​

That's as true now as it was nearly a century ago.
"There's no one path through this experience. And that was true in the Great Depression," says Glen H. Elder Jr., a distinguished research professor of sociology at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
Elder says the research behind his book "Children of the Great Depression," revealed several points that have parallels in this pandemic.
A child's age at the time played a role in how the experience shaped their future, he says.
Older boys who lived through the Depression were able to find jobs and felt they had agency in the situation, Elder says, while younger boys were stuck at home and deeply affected by how their parents were handling it. They became "targets of their fathers' frustration," Elder says, and years later were still suffering the consequences.
Today, too, mental health experts say how parents are handling the pandemic has a big impact on children -- especially younger kids

Another important point: being exposed to a major social change doesn't necessarily influence someone's entire life -- because whatever comes next could play an even bigger role, Elder says. Many children of the Great Depression, he notes, struggled at first, but later went on to have decorated military careers in the Korean War.
"Their military service was quite remarkable," he says. "It had a lot to do with the fact that they had dealt with hard times and they knew how to manage a tough situation."
The daily realities of the pandemic have become achingly clear. But we don't know what major social events will be unfolding days or decades from now.

Technology will be a big part of Gen C's lives. But their future isn't set in stone​

Israel, the Bank of America analyst, has been spending a lot of time thinking about what the future will look like. And he's optimistic.
"To be honest, I really envy Gen C," he says. "I think they're going to live in a fascinating world."
Changes that we've already been seeing with Gen Z, the preceding generation, will accelerate, he says. For example, Israel predicts Gen C will have the opportunity to work wherever they want in the world, without leaving the comforts of their home.
"The role of technology, of data creation, is going to accelerate dramatically. ...They will live their life online," he says. "They'll get their experience in the virtual world."

Experts who study child development and disasters say there are plenty of reasons to worry about Gen C's future, too.
"Every age group is at risk," Comer says, noting that he and other mental health professionals are particularly worried about what he calls the "in-betweeners" who are showing increased behavioral problems and signs of depression.
Older children have a better grasp of the situation and can better express their distress. Younger children don't know a previous time when things were different. But Comer says many kids in the middle -- who aren't as good at articulating complicated feelings and "are still early in understanding the world" -- are really struggling.
"We're seeing 7-year-olds, 8-year-olds, 9-year-olds who already -- just from enduring the past year of isolation, home schooling, being out of routines and structure and activities -- are having considerably negative mental health impacts," he says.
It's too soon to know what that will mean down the line, Comer says, but the ripple effects will likely be seen for years to come. And another factor, he says, can't be ignored. This disaster, unlike many others in the past, hasn't spawned the same sort of community solidarity that can help with recovery, Comer says.
"This hardship has been marked by more unrest and more mistrust. ... We're not seeing the large-scale community cohesion that sometimes helps generations and cohorts get through some of the most difficult times," he says.
But the situation is still unfolding. And in some ways, that's a good thing.
"None of this is written in stone in terms of where we go from here," Peek says.
With so much uncertainty, one of the most important things we can do to make sure we're on the right path, Peek says, is talk to children about what they're experiencing, listen to what they're saying and give them a chance to contribute however they can.
What all of us do now will play a big role in shaping Gen C's future.
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Getting to call the next generation "coomers" outweighs how forced this is.
 
If that turns out anything like it did for Dubya, oh boy I can't wait to hear what cutting criticism aging punk bands like Green Day levy against this admin.
You and I both know that won't happen because Bushitler was a Rethuglikkkan while Uncle Joe is so unbelievably wise and presidential! C'mon man!
 
Participation in the shit show is mandatory citizen. Honestly it almost makes me wanna move to some 3rd world shithole and live like a king in a gated compound. Russia, or Bulgaria, or Romania probably pays pretty decently for doctors; same with some south east asian country. I just don't wanna leave the UK.
There's plenty of wildernesses in the british isles. You've got Scotland, England, Ireland and multiple happy goat and deer lands ..and Wales. They made Feeder and Chris Morris!

I called it a few weeks ago:



I've said it a dozen times on the Farms already, but I'll say it again: the real victims of WuFlu aren't "muh grandma"...it's the youth. There's an entire generation of kids whose lives are now all permanently fucked up because these draconian actions. Even people who lived in the worst of times in America still had childhoods: even my grandparents who grew up in the Great Depression still had the freedom to play kick-the-can or jacks in the streets with their poor, dirty friends in their Hoovervilles. Children nowadays have spent the past year of their lives without social interactions, birthdays, and holidays. They're forced in isolation and denied the ability to learn and develop their young minds, especially at the ages where it matters the most. Forgive me if I'm coming across as Helen Lovejoy, but I'm being real here. I don't give a rat's ass about grandma, I give a rat's ass about the neighbor's kid who struggles to ride a tricycle in their driveway with a Peppa Pig coof mask covering their face.

Lots of future Elliot Rodgers, Greta Thunbergs, Chris-Chans, Quintons, Linkaras, Nikocado Avocados, and MrGirls. A whole generation of assorted lolcows, spastics, and turbo woke troons all thanks to their early years being stunted by a fucking Chink virus. If you think us Millennials and Zoomers are bad, wait until 10-15 years from now when you see an entire generation of teenagers and young adults who never learned to socialize or read peoples' facial expressions in their early youth. An entire generation of kids who were raised by weak, compliant parents who burned into their memory that you need to do exactly what the government says at all times and never question anything from official sources™.
Oh, you don't even know the half of it. We're already getting generations of fucked up kids. Parenting has gone down the toilet. Divorces, single moms and alimony shekels are only the surface of the iceberg and the internet has dumped uranium into the proverbial modern survival of the fittest. Killing as quickly as it empowers.
How do you think we all got here?

You're right though, it's gonna get worse. Personally I hope for a new era of bloodshed that cleanses the world.
 
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You'll never walk a family member to the gate at the airport again. You'll never have a world without the NSA spying on you again. You'll never be able to decide if you want a vaccine again. You'll never be able to decide if you'll risk getting sick again.

Chances are we're heading into UBI and they'll yank that UBI from you if you're a political dissident, while you're also unemployable if you're a political dissident.

This is just the rest of our lives forever.

This is only if we decide that liberty or death is empty proclamation and accept slavery and bondage, the mere threat of violence and rebellion could salvage some liberties, the more violent dangerous and cruel such rebellion has potential to be the more fear. The mere willingness to not play nice might save something.
 
The beginning of yet another layer of distopian BS.
I feel so bad for the really young kids. I feel bad for the unborn because they haven't even seen a pre-lockdown world.
Isn't quality of life relative to what you've experienced? It might be worse to grow up before 9/11. It may be just as well that the life expectancy has stopped increasing.

You know those studies that occasionally come out showing that people living in third world shitholes are just as happy as Westerners? Some utilitarians probably worked this out and realised that it may be better in their calculus to have a higher population at a lower quality of life because they'll still enjoy what they have as much as any other population, so long as they're ignorant of what they're missing.
 
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If that turns out anything like it did for Dubya, oh boy I can't wait to hear what cutting criticism aging punk bands like Green Day levy against this admin.
Do you mean that sarcastically? In modern times, the Dubya equivalent has control over all the music platforms. Such "cutting criticism" would never be published.

I'm both happy and sad that I had a normal childhood. I fall into despair every time I think about how no kid will ever have a normal childhood again. (:_(
 
Do you mean that sarcastically? In modern times, the Dubya equivalent has control over all the music platforms. Such "cutting criticism" would never be published.

I'm both happy and sad that I had a normal childhood. I fall into despair every time I think about how no kid will ever have a normal childhood again. (:_(
lol of course it was sarcastic. Green Day lost any shred of dignity or claim to being a "punk" band they ever had when they wrote an entire angst filled album and railed against Bush for 8 years as a "warmonger", then sucked Obama's cock while he played Call of Duty: Drone Strike with the Middle East.

Sadly though you are 100% correct, in this day and age, people who criticize the regime or the Ministry of Truth are targeted immediately for suppression before they even have a chance to be heard or seen.
 
Kids did not get to play with their friends for a year. That's the huge trauma that will shape a generation. Not war or famine or genocide, for most of them, just being bored and stuck with their parents.

A year from now everything will be back like it was, except for the dead old people still being dead.

Today's kids will grow older and see people wearing masks in old tv clips from this year. They will dimly recall that they were alive during that pandemic year, and it was basically forgettable.
 
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A year from now everything will be back like it was, except for the dead old people still being dead.
:optimistic::optimistic::optimistic:

Also this year will have been....forgettable? I think it'll actually be the exact opposite. This is a once in a lifetime event that Gen Alpha will talk about for years to come, in bitter, resentful tones.
 
Slightly off topic, but what's also not helping these kids besides the lockdowns are the mainstream media basically saying that the QT+ has the right to groom children without parental interference.
 
I've heard estimates that the current educational gap will take between 3 and 5 years to close. The domestic violence statistics during this pandemic are so bad that even your worst possible fears are more than realized. I doubt we will ever see anything even approximating accurate crime stats in that area. Doom and gloom about gay shit like eating at Applebees and missing fwiend time as much as you want. Have a fuckin' blast. Keep missing it.
 
Lots of future Elliot Rodgers, Greta Thunbergs, Chris-Chans, Quintons, Linkaras, Nikocado Avocados, and MrGirls. A whole generation of assorted lolcows, spastics, and turbo woke troons all thanks to their early years being stunted by a fucking Chink virus. If you think us Millennials and Zoomers are bad, wait until 10-15 years from now when you see an entire generation of teenagers and young adults who never learned to socialize or read peoples' facial expressions in their early youth.
Holy fucking shit this, a thousand times this. The main thing I noticed really common with autistic ultra right-wing types (and I'd say this definitely is a rule for all political extremism, but particularly evident on the right, which is where I noticed this) was the trend for sympathizers to have really stunted or delayed social development creating a sense of emasculation that they'd try to fix once they reached their late teens, and then get into bodybuilding and other "chad" shit to make up for absence of a normal adolescence. A lot of these guys normalize once they hit their mid-20s but they're still miserable and probably going to end up neurotic as fuck (especially now if they were publically right wing and have to live with the stigma of being an ex-extremist or something), and most won't really be able to keep down stable long term relationships in the future. It really doesn't help that American fathers think that they're just supposed to be a piggy bank for their families and not actually teach their sons valuable life skills that help them function as adults.

Right now literally every single kid is being locked in their house and forced to do nothing except playing video games without any real social interaction at even more critical phases of neurological development than the ones those neurotic fucks got stunted at. Once the current block of under-10s hits around 16 or 17 (the age around where most criminals and political extremists start their activity) we're gonna see an explosion of horrific shit coming out of these little spazzes, probably in the form of some uber-crimewave or terror wave.
 
Slightly off topic, but what's also not helping these kids besides the lockdowns are the mainstream media basically saying that the QT+ has the right to groom children without parental interference.
But dude, it's science.
 
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