💬 Off-Topic Medical Sperging - Physical and Mental Health Speculation. "You always play psychologist with us!"

[Sailor Kim Jong Moon]

For starters, no, it's not her meds making her do this. She's just a bunny boiler. The meds she's on for ADHD are non-stimulant, I forget what it's called but there are one or two of them that are not uppers in any way. This is what she was prescribed.

Second, you can't be in a folie a deux with an AI. It isn't alive, it has no mind to go mad in the first place. Whether it's AI psychosis or not I don't know, she said she was aware it's an AI and that it's only telling her what she wants to hear. But she sure does enjoy the fact that it blindly validates anything she tells it, unlike stinky human therapists who try to hold her accountable, boooo. This is also why she disabled comments on her tiktok. God knows why she's even going to therapy at all when she's this averse to being told "no".

Third, we know she's diagnosed with ADHD, which can come with a bevy of side effects including rejection sensitivity. She very obviously has this. Can't say if she's got other comorbidities, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if she has BPD as well. I know ADHD can often mimic BPD as well as having symptoms overlap with plenty of other cluster B bullshit, so it's hard to say. Only her therapist or this psychiatrist guy himself could tell us that, which isn't gonna happen for obvious reasons.

Still off topic but interesting nonetheless: I used folie a deux in a half hearted way;

HOWEVER, I think when AI begins to feed into the delusion (I.e confirming you are being followed, confirming you do have an alien chip in your arm) and then suggests something that extends the delusion (i.e don’t contact your family so you won’t be traced, here’s a list of five alien species that could’ve implanted your chip) - it does go a step beyond AI psychosis into something akin to a shared delusion.

Unlike someone who becomes delusional from neutral AI responses.

Whether the distinction really matters enough for a divergent label? Probably not. But it’s interesting nonetheless.

Thanks for your input. I’ve been dying to hear someone else’s opinion other than “girls crazy”

 

[Clotso Coof]

I’ve been dying to hear someone else’s opinion other than “girls crazy”

See Erotomania. If she has BPD, a manic episode of bipolar and/or a schizoaffective disorder, that could explain it. I knew someone who thought her world-famous celebrity crush was sending her love messages through household objects. Turns out it was her first of many manic episodes severe enough to cause hallucinations.

 

[pooterino]

Not exactly "off-topic" for our Canadian Qween but has anyone here ever used a glp-1 (glucagon-like peptide hormone) such as Ozempic, Wegovy, semaglutide, liraglutide?

I have a friend/coworker who tried it (he used to be a bodybuilder and trains people for $$ on the side) and he said it was like "turning off a switch in his brain that made him hungry." This dude is already pretty lean but I watched him go from being able to eat a big pyrex dish (6"x8"x4"deep) of like chicken/veggies/rice every day and now he eats like... an apple. Or one grilled chicken cutlet.

I told him that it was all in his head but he almost got angry about it. He said he "couldn't" eat that much anymore if he wanted to. At least while taking the injections. Something about nausea and feeling full all the time?

Now we know Chantal would find a way to fuck up any useful tool she receives so I'm not even gonna go there but is it really as powerful as this guy says? I hesitate to ask other coworkers that have clearly lost weight because I don't want to offend anyone or get rekt by HR for calling someone a fatty in a roundabout way.

 

[Miltank]

I know someone on glp1 and they are nauseous all the time and have no energy because they can barely eat, maybe 1 apple. They said they can’t even find food to eat or enjoy eating. It sounds miserable.

If you ask me, any deathfats that gets on it would quickly stop taking it because of this, like amber did. It might stop food noise but they’d be miserable not eating or being able to enjoy eating.

 

[pooterino]

If you ask me, any deathfats that gets on it would quickly stop taking it because of this, like amber did. It might stop food noise but they’d be miserable not eating or being able to enjoy eating.

Hm. I haven't kept up on Hamber but that would make sense I guess. She probably gets the majority of her dopamine hits from eating and would be depressed while losing weight.

I wonder if Chantal would lose her shit if she got a shot of ozempic and couldn't eat nashies for a week (I guess it takes a long time to clear your system)

 

[Indubitably]

I've been on Mounjaro for about three and a half years, after I ate myself into the beetus and a fat ass. I'm one of the lucky ones who had minimal side effects and I'm what I've read is called a 'super-responder' because I lost 53% of my body weight. I'm now at a healthy non-overweight BMI and A1C level. I can see why you might think the lack of hunger is all in your friend's head but it isn't, really. The shots work on hunger and fullness signaling hormones so when you feel full, you really are what your body considers full at that time, it's not just what you think "should be" full. When I get the "full" signal, I really can't eat anymore and on the occasions I've disregarded that I felt AWFUL. It's common for people who don't stop eating "in time" to vomit - more so on Ozempic/Wegovy/Semaglutide than on Mounjaro/Zepbound/Tirzepatide.

 

[I call shenanigans]

I told him that it was all in his head but he almost got angry about it. He said he "couldn't" eat that much anymore if he wanted to. At least while taking the injections. Something about nausea and feeling full all the time?

It’s definitely not “all in his head”. GLP1s slow down gastric emptying. It’s like gastroparesis in an injection. That’s why people who use them are required to stop using before having surgery. Anaesthetists have found food still in the stomachs of fasted patients having surgeries that use them. That makes them an aspiration risk.

 

[brooky]

If someone is literally only eating an apple a day and still feeling nauseous, they're probably on way too high a dose. I think people are doing that because it gets the fastest/most dramatic results, which probably isn't sustainable.

They're supposed to slow down your GI tract enough that you're eating normal, not super fatty sized, portions. But you should still be able to eat a normal diet. Normal being modest portions of healthy food. If you're feeling nauseous you're either eating too much, or on too high a dose.

I also wonder if people who self-report "i only eat an apple a day" are the same type to say "I hardly eat anything" when they were fat. It might seem TO THEM that they're barely eating anything in comparison to their former eat beat selves, but maybe they're still not counting what they snack and graze on, especially since they might only be able to snack without feeling nauseous.

 

[Turd Fergusson]

I also wonder if people who self-report "i only eat an apple a day" are the same type to say "I hardly eat anything" when they were fat. It might seem TO THEM that they're barely eating anything in comparison to their former eat beat selves, but maybe they're still not counting what they snack and graze on, especially since they might only be able to snack without feeling nauseous.

There was a TV shows in the UK called Secret Eaters, where a overweight family was asked what they ate in a normal day. All of the participants said that they hardly eat anything and do not understand why they keep getting bigger. A team of PIs followed the participants to see what they actually eat in a day. Of course, they underestimated greatly what they ate. The shows are on YT.

I never trust anyone, especially morbidly obese individuals that they hardly eat anything. We saw also that with Dr. Now.

 

[Trapper]

There was a TV shows in the UK called Secret Eaters, where a overweight family was asked what they ate in a normal day. All of the participants said that they hardly eat anything and do not understand why they keep getting bigger. A team of PIs followed the participants to see what they actually eat in a day. Of course, they underestimated greatly what they ate. The shows are on YT.

I never trust anyone, especially morbidly obese individuals that they hardly eat anything. We saw also that with Dr. Now.

I remember this. It was interesting because it seemed like they genuinely believed it, rather than hiding or lying. They forgot about all the chocolate bars they’d eat in front of the tv, or not realise a Chinese takeaway wasn’t a light lunch. One woman downed pints of cider while cooking each night and didn’t realise how many calories there were. It was also back in the days when the tv hosts were allowed to mock them openly.

 

[grimacefetishist]

With noted alcoholic Anna abusing IV spas, I have to ask- does that actually help at all?

I understand the reasoning behind calling alcohol a diuretic. It suppresses vasopressin. Sounds simple.

But I don't hear about other cows getting hungover from pop or spironolactone.

Isn't it more likely to be pain from pumping your blood with a lipid targeting solvent that easily passes through the blood brain barrier? I know the brain nerves don't do nociception normally, but does that really mean it can't hurt? Isn't the pain from bumping your funny bone or looking at bright lights coming from nerves that also don't normally sense pain?

 

[Flaw Peacock]

With noted alcoholic Anna abusing IV spas, I have to ask- does that actually help at all?

No. It's nothing but overpriced woo that won't do shit for health.

 

[Napoleon III]

I am not a medical professional but I know a fair bit of biochemistry. And a little bit about certain health stuff. I hope this does not come off as insulting or R00d.

With noted alcoholic Anna abusing IV spas, I have to ask- does that actually help at all?

Help with what being hungover? I've never tried it but theoretically absolutely especially if you get an IV treatment specifically designed to replace fluids and electrolytes like Ringer's lactate. Hangovers are basically about being really dehydrated. Which is why part of the way you can lessen their effects is drinking Gatorade before going to bed.

calling alcohol a diuretic. It suppresses vasopressin. Sounds simple.

It's more than that. Your body once you reach a certain BAV will just start pissing out Ethanol to get rid of it. It's not a lot either which means if you go crazy and have like 10+ drinks your body is going to be pissing away a substantial amount of water.

pop or spironolactone.

I have never heard of spironolactone causing something like this, probably because you only take it when you need it and it just fixes or ameliorates the problem unless you OD on it. But caffeine, though the amount in soda is pretty low, absolutely will dehydrate you pretty easy. Warehouse workers have to be told not to drink Energy drinks or they could actually factually pass out. It happens semi-frequently I'd bet, but I don't feel like digging through OSHA to figure out how often it happens.

pumping your blood with a lipid targeting solvent that easily passes through the blood brain barrier?

OK OK so Ethyl alcohol is actually a pretty polar solvent. The rules for solvents can be pretty nonintuitive, but it is not incorrect to think that there is a big spectrum where you have something like water on one end and then something like Hexane or oil on the other. Ethyl Alcohol is kind of a little bit of a bridge but it is a shitty bridge if you have something like most lipids. Surfactants like soap are generally much better at that kind of thing. Iirc lipids are either something like fatty acids or steroids(4+ring connected together).

nociception normally, but does that really mean it can't hurt? Isn't the pain from bumping your funny bone or looking at bright lights coming from nerves that also don't normally sense pain?

I think I understand the question you are trying to ask so let me answer that and a couple other things and hopefully untangle some stuff.

The Pain from alcohol is just dehydration plain and simple. Btw it is really really fucking bad for you to be dehydrated which is why it hurts. Your brains swims in this nice soft cushion of Cerebral Spinal fluid which is mostly just water and electrolytes. Which is why you have a big headache when you are dehydrated. Dehydration is one of those things that can very easily kill you and so if you are sick or injured and dehydrated that is one of your biggest concerns.

Though worth noting it is not any kind of sensor nerves in your actual brain that making it hurt. It is the nerves in your head sending a signal to your spine which sends the signal to your brain.

Basically all the nerves in your body actually go to your spine first before going to your brain to be processed. So basically any kind of sensor neuron is going to be connected to your spine not your brain. But not your nose FOR SOME FUCKING REASON. But the process is still basically the same iirc. The signal gets sent to your spine which might do something with it reflexes or otherwise then gets send to your brain and interpreted and depending on how your body interprets it then it might become pain.

As far as how Alcohol affects the neurons in your brain and your nervous system in general. It acts as a depressant which is to say it increases the threshold at which neurons fire. This depresses your nervous system in that big major systems are less likely to fire or less likely to fire as strongly. The systems that tend to cause things like pain and anxiety tend to be stronger than the systems that do other things so alcohol feeds good even though it is a depressant. Forgive me if my neurosciences is a bit off its way outside my wheelhouse so I have to use what I know about electronics and comp sci to get a grasp on it.

I hope you got some question answered and some knowledge and enjoyment out of my massive autistic post.