Matthew Prince lied.

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namelessoracle said:
This is literally the standard playbook for reddit for them to take over a board they dont like.

"Make a fuss and flood board with fed posts and cp" <- you are here

"Janny requirements are dictated to increase by platform"

"Inflitrators get janny spots and twist board culture"

"Infiltrators drive out original creators with platform support"

"Board subverted"
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r/AHS moment
Ridley said:
Shit decisions like this absolutely kill discussion forums. You can claim anything is a glownigger fedpost if you try hard enough. Also consider the following phenomenon:
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I swear the original said 'glowing'
 
namelessoracle said:
This is literally the standard playbook for reddit for them to take over a board they dont like.

"Make a fuss and flood board with fed posts and cp" <- you are here

"Janny requirements are dictated to increase by platform"

"Inflitrators get janny spots and twist board culture"

"Infiltrators drive out original creators with platform support"

"Board subverted"
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I realize that, which is why I thought that that solution is untenable.

That being said, I think that Null would probably have an easier time than some faggy reddit subforum, because we've got users who've been here a while and who have directly interacted with Null, contributed to the site (true and honest), and most importantly have a record of all the posts made from which one could infer whether they are capable of maintaining current site culture. It would come down to time and effort, which he cant expend on this while he's trying to keep the .ru and onion mirrors operational.

AFAIC there is no significant problem with moderation as is and anyone can pull the same blitzkrieg gayop shit that was pulled to get KF kicked off cloudflare.
 
Ridley said:
Shit decisions like this absolutely kill discussion forums. You can claim anything is a glownigger fedpost if you try hard enough. Also consider the following phenomenon:
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how about ridiculing and negrating, as well as jersh giving the fedpost to glowies?
AS IT SHOULD BE, on my country's govt it's shit like that, some retard fedposts, glowies ask for a copy and ip even if it's vpn, gib it, forgetti aboutti itti.
 
namelessoracle said:
This is literally the standard playbook for reddit for them to take over a board they dont like.

"Make a fuss and flood board with fed posts and cp" <- you are here

"Janny requirements are dictated to increase by platform"

"Inflitrators get janny spots and twist board culture"

"Infiltrators drive out original creators with platform support"

"Board subverted"
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It is worth mentioning that sometimes the reddit administration itself will deem a board's moderation to be unfit in some way. They don't really talk about doing this because it's very sneaky business, but they will go into the database and change who has Full Control permissions of a subreddit without telling anyone, often in response to the appeal of a power-hungry mod. So suddenly your subreddit belongs to a powermod and he brings in some of his friends and now your subreddit is completely subverted in a single night. They will then gloat about it.
 
SanicBlackMagic said:
AFAIC there is no significant problem with moderation as is and anyone can pull the same blitzkrieg gayop shit that was pulled to get KF kicked off cloudflare.
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I think they played their only card. Is Keffals going to convince the Russian government that we support Ukraine and get us taken down here as well? Even something as extreme as spamming CP wouldn't work because Russian law only bothers with producers.
 
Dr. Matthew C. Harris said:
Don't forget the groomers and creeps. There are communities out there that, while ostensibly being hobby/fandom communities, will have tranny jannies actively working towards maintaining a status quo where not only you have to deal with retarded shit, but you have to bend the knee to literal fucking grooming and sexual harassment. Oh, and they all talk to each other and know each other, so banned off one server? Instantly banned off a dozen more.
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Internet fandoms are troon central so I expect it at this point. Especially the anime, kpop and MCYT fandoms.

One example I distinctly remember is mikumiku_ebooks/cybershoujo. Someone who was popular in the Bandori and Vocaloid community.

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Adri used his private account to talk about wanting to have sex with underaged lesbians and ragepigged about a woman rejecting him. He admitted that it was true and abandoned the cybershoujo account (I have no idea where he is now). People were scrambling to correct anyone “misgendering” him afterwards. It’s sadly that common.
 
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Spud gun said:
Cloudflare should never be trusted again this not the first time that they have made an "exception" and terminated their services. 8chan was yeeted because someone posted about committing a heinous crime and it was subsequently removed by the moderation team.
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You trust any other publicly listed, multibillion dollar companies?

Hey faggot, they provide a service and if they don't want blacks, jews, or tranny hating people they don't have to provide that service.
2022 joiners are 100% retarded.
 
Ridley said:
Shit decisions like this absolutely kill discussion forums. You can claim anything is a glownigger fedpost if you try hard enough. Also consider the following phenomenon:
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You can fucking "claim" anything, but the reality is that an overwhelming majority of users can spot who is posting in bad faith and I've never ever felt oppressed by the jannies here.
 
SanicBlackMagic said:
I realize that, which is why I thought that that solution is untenable.

That being said, I think that Null would probably have an easier time than some faggy reddit subforum, because we've got users who've been here a while and who have directly interacted with Null, contributed to the site (true and honest), and most importantly have a record of all the posts made from which one could infer whether they are capable of maintaining current site culture. It would come down to time and effort, which he cant expend on this while he's trying to keep the .ru and onion mirrors operational.

AFAIC there is no significant problem with moderation as is and anyone can pull the same blitzkrieg gayop shit that was pulled to get KF kicked off cloudflare.
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Unlike reddit moderator Null owns this mental asylum, and he has direct control over the staff, so the site cannon be so easily subverted. But it's still a lot of work to moderate thousands of posts every day. Thank you for your service Jersh & jannies btw.

>true and honest
Financialy supporting something is not a guarantee of being "good boy", tho people tend to behave when they made financial investment into something.
 
Btw, they did this over Labor Day weekend because they know the media will slow down significantly by Tuesday morning
 
Ridley said:
Shit decisions like this absolutely kill discussion forums. You can claim anything is a glownigger fedpost if you try hard enough. Also consider the following phenomenon:
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Most people consider a fedpost to be a specific call for an attack. Not "wow I hate Keffals, wish he would an hero" but rather the shit that poster pulled of saying they were going to send a killsquad into his house and plant bombs. It's only a slippery slope if retards are moderating.
 
Titanium Vagina said:
I really think we should just all report every questionable piece of content on every Cloudflare protected site and just overload their Abuse email box.
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NOT INCOURAGING GAYOPS - just a thought.

Unironically, I think this is the only thing that would desensitize companies enough to avoid knee-jerk reactions to leftist mass flagging brigades. As of right now, the only people faggots doing this are pinko scum and npc retards. Thats why they're successful at it, because there isn't an equal and opposite reaction. Unfortunately that means that the efforts of Troonco on this front are unilateral and much harder for companies to ignore.

If their inboxes were full of similar retardation calling for the deplatforming of X or Y person/company/site, it would encourage them to ignore this shit from both sides.

Alas, that is mega gay and we must take the high road - to our own graves.
 
Chazzed Up said:
Most people consider a fedpost to be a specific call for an attack. Not "wow I hate Keffals, wish he would an hero" but rather the shit that poster pulled of saying they were going to send a killsquad into his house and plant bombs. It's only a slippery slope if retards are moderating.
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You need to add "in minecraft" to your death threads, then it's ok.
 
sidekek said:
matthew prince took a very anti-censorship stance in 2011 when LulzSec was using their DoS protection and going around defacing .gov websites.


he even went so far as to do a talk at DEF CON about how CF (at that point in its relative infancy) managed to keep the site up despite dedicated attackers going after it 24/7.

the initial response to stormfront/8ch/here was similar, methinks that as the company has grown shareholders have more leverage to demand he take certain actions.
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Here is an interesting quote (A) from that:
Prince said while CloudFlare had been contacted by government law enforcement officials about LulzSec, they had very little information to provide. All that is needed to sign up for free CloudFlare services is an email address, a username and a password.
At no time did law enforcement ask CloudFlare to discontinue providing services to LulzSec.
"It would have been an interesting question if they had," said Prince.
Prince and colleagues suffered what he called an existential crisis many times during the experience.
"We thought: Is this who we want to have on our network?" said Prince. But, ultimately, the company felt they were not in a position to play censor.
CloudFlare will not allow sites that distribute malware, conduct phishing or host child pornography to use their services. But beyond that, Prince said he feels just about any site deserves to be served.

"I'm not sure it's my role to decide what should be on the internet."
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trigger warning said:
If I'm reading this correctly, this guy (at least, one of the repliers) stopped supporting internet freedom because... crypto?
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That person might be the most prolific poster in that entire thread. They used every argument they could think of, under the mask of concern. I think it is what people refer to as "concern trolling".
 
Titanium Vagina said:
Does Kotaku use Cloudflare?

I really think we should just all report every questionable piece of content on every Cloudflare protected site and just overload their Abuse email box.
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We are being held to much higher standards than Lucas is and doing same shit he does would only bite us in the ass.

Also it's pretty fucking gay + trannies will do it for us
 
Sheepfucker said:
You can fucking "claim" anything, but the reality is that an overwhelming majority of users can spot who is posting in bad faith and I've never ever felt oppressed by the jannies here.
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i have honestly never seen better jannies than the kiwi moderators, and troons asking for better moderation than they provide is not asking for BETTER moderators, it's asking for moderators on KF to cuck to the trooniverse's idea of what should be moderated, AKA saying that Lucas Roberts who goes by Clara Sorrenti and Keffals online will never be a woman, no matter how much he uses stinkditch pus as lubricant for his dilator.
 
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