MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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Silver's predictions and his interpretation of statistics have been wrong before regarding Trump.

Remember when he said Trump wouldn't win the nomination?
 
Silver's predictions and his interpretation of statistics have been wrong before regarding Trump.

Remember when he said Trump wouldn't win the nomination?

There are other statistical analyses out there you know, and they don't paint a better picture for Trump. In fact they paint a worse one.

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538 has been the most gracious to Trump so far, and as of now Trump has a severe disadvantage from the now 12 days straight of constant gaffes and scandals that have created a plethora of clips and talking points to use against him.

And all with a town hall debate tommorow, that Trump hasn't prepared for.
 
The reason Trump won the nomination is because people are sick of career politicians.

Trump has a huge ego, is a blowhard, and is not as smart as he thinks he is.

Many people don't care, that's why he got as far as he did despite his many fuckups.

As for all the people on here, and the MSM talking about the "uneducated" supporting Trump, going to
college/university to have a teacher tell you what to read, then tell you what you should think about what
you have read does not mean you smarter than the poor, unwashed masses.
 
The reason Trump won the nomination is because people are sick of career politicians.

Trump has a huge ego, is a blowhard, and is not as smart as he thinks he is.

Many people don't care, that's why he got as far as he did despite his many fuckups.

As for all the people on here, and the MSM talking about the "uneducated" supporting Trump, going to
college/university to have a teacher tell you what to read, then tell you what you should think about what
you have read does not mean you smarter than the poor, unwashed masses.

I'd agree that education doesn't necessarily mean intelligence, but let's also not take a shit on intellectualism. Facts exist, and if we ignore them then we're going to end up repeating Karl Rove 2012 again.
 
The reason Trump won the nomination is because people are sick of career politicians.

Trump has a huge ego, is a blowhard, and is not as smart as he thinks he is.

Many people don't care, that's why he got as far as he did despite his many fuckups.

As for all the people on here, and the MSM talking about the "uneducated" supporting Trump, going to
college/university to have a teacher tell you what to read, then tell you what you should think about what
you have read does not mean you smarter than the poor, unwashed masses.

That last paragraph more than rings true as these poor, unwashed masses, can't afford resources that should be way more cheap and affordable (like in every other 1st world nation that actually gives a fuck about its citizens) like higher learning, let alone easily!
 
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Trumps campaign confuses me so much. Hillary is so unlikable all he has to do is pretty much say nothing except " I will make the economy and national security my top priorities" over and over and he'd win.
I disagree. People are living ever complex lives, and he would be knocked for not appearing to know specifics. He says he'll bring back manufacturing jobs and fight for the common man, none of his plans help us. His tax plan is a cribbed version of what 17 other people said, but somehow more regressive. He proved he doesn't understand how debt of nations are not dischargable (unless you want the dollar to be worthless like Mugabe's fiscal policy). He hasn't proven to be able to be an adult to adversity. He chose to slack off and was over confident for the debate, got baited and verbally thrashed, blamed everyone but himself, then started ranting on Twitter, which didn't work with the Khans either. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, believe me on that. But short of her going full retard and rantung for days, I'm more willing to begrudgingly vote for her.
Maybe I'm missing something. I won't defend her stupid decision to use a private email server (though the Powell leaks do suggest this is more common than just her). I watched and read the reports on Benghazi. A GOP Congress couldn't nail her for it despite 4 years of probing. The government failed, again as it did during the Bush administration, to protect our people abroad. That's a series of management fuck ups and indifference from the State deptartment to Congress, and the White House. Arming the Syrians and air raids in Tripoli were also fucking stupid.
But I agree with Clinton on a slew of issues that Trump neither addresses or cares about. We DO need to reinvest in the workforce (public college not requiring six figures for a B.S. degree, adult training programs, incentives for companies to train more people as interns) we need to abandon use of coal and oil in favor of pioneering better renewable energy sources, our roads will cost 1 trillion dollars just to repair and update, not factoring costs of fuel and time production time lost due to detours. It will cost us 3 trillion if we include dams, bridges, rails, electrical grid, and water and sewer lines. The ACA protections it gives people is essential, while the exchanges are shit and need a rework. We must not fool ourselves that repealing it, and sinply allowing busnisses to operate over state lines will fix anything. Its a GOP load of nothing that hurts everyone but big pharma and private insurance companies. Trump offers me nothing that I see helping us or our allies long term. Clinton has something, as dubious as I am.
So what am I missing? I gave you my piece and view. What is it that any of you see Trump fans see in him after close to a year of this? I would love to get your take, since shouting eachother down doesn't help anyone
 
I disagree. People are living ever complex lives, and he would be knocked for not appearing to know specifics. He says he'll bring back manufacturing jobs and fight for the common man, none of his plans help us. His tax plan is a cribbed version of what 17 other people said, but somehow more regressive. He proved he doesn't understand how debt of nations are not dischargable (unless you want the dollar to be worthless like Mugabe's fiscal policy). He hasn't proven to be able to be an adult to adversity. He chose to slack off and was over confident for the debate, got baited and verbally thrashed, blamed everyone but himself, then started ranting on Twitter, which didn't work with the Khans either. I'm not a huge Hillary fan, believe me on that. But short of her going full exceptional individual and rantung for days, I'm more willing to begrudgingly vote for her.
Maybe I'm missing something. I won't defend her stupid decision to use a private email server (though the Powell leaks do suggest this is more common than just her). I watched and read the reports on Benghazi. A GOP Congress couldn't nail her for it despite 4 years of probing. The government failed, again as it did during the Bush administration, to protect our people abroad. That's a series of management fuck ups and indifference from the State deptartment to Congress, and the White House. Arming the Syrians and air raids in Tripoli were also fucking stupid.
But I agree with Clinton on a slew of issues that Trump neither addresses or cares about. We DO need to reinvest in the workforce (public college not requiring six figures for a B.S. degree, adult training programs, incentives for companies to train more people as interns) we need to abandon use of coal and oil in favor of pioneering better renewable energy sources, our roads will cost 1 trillion dollars just to repair and update, not factoring costs of fuel and time production time lost due to detours. It will cost us 3 trillion if we include dams, bridges, rails, electrical grid, and water and sewer lines. The ACA protections it gives people is essential, while the exchanges are shit and need a rework. We must not fool ourselves that repealing it, and sinply allowing busnisses to operate over state lines will fix anything. Itsm a GOP load of nothing that hurts everyone but big pharma and private insurance companies. Trump offers me nothing that I see helping us or our allies long term. Clinton has something, as dubious as I am.
So what am I missing? I gave you my piece and view. What is it that any of you see Trump fans see in him after close to a year of this? I would love to get your take, since shouting eachother down doesn't help anyone

I don't think Trump is a particularly intelligent man nor a very good politician. However political dynasties from the Bushes to the Clintons have brought this country to the brink of ruin and made it impossible for decent and intelligent people to run for office, and it's a certainty that a Clinton presidency would continue the trend of empowering mega corporations and globalist interests at the expense of minorities, poor people, and middle class Americans. My hope is that even if a Trump presidency accomplishes nothing of note it will at least shake up the political establishment to the extent that better people have a hope to run successfully in the future. To people like me Trump is a puppet and a useful idiot, nothing more and certainly nothing less.
 
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I don't think Trump is a particularly intelligent man nor a very good politician. However political dynasties from the Bushes to the Clintons have brought this country to the brink of ruin and made it impossible for decent and intelligent people to run for office, and it's a certainty that a Clinton presidency would continue the trend of empowering mega corporations and globalist interests at the expense of minorities, poor people, and middle class Americans. My hope is that even if a Trump presidency accomplishes nothing of note it will at least shake up the political establishment to the extent that better people have a hope to run successful in the future. To people like me Trump is a puppet and a useful idiot, nothing more and certainly nothing less.
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That runs along the lines of a bunch of people I talk to. It is a gamble, but some of them want to make that. As long as they don't ramble conspiracy shit (Clinton will take our guns, its a SJW plot to cuck white people for Soros) and maintain basic mores, fine with me. The people who worry me are the fanatics who seem to fucking worship him unironically. The ones who see him as incapible of making a mistake, the ones who don't hold him accountable for his own fuck ups like the first debate, Ms Housekeeping Tweets, and now Grabbin' Pussy. That mindset is why people fucking hated Sanders supporters, and think nobody could really like Clinton.
 
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I don't think Trump is a particularly intelligent man nor a very good politician. However political dynasties from the Bushes to the Clintons have brought this country to the brink of ruin and made it impossible for decent and intelligent people to run for office, and it's a certainty that a Clinton presidency would continue the trend of empowering mega corporations and globalist interests at the expense of minorities, poor people, and middle class Americans. My hope is that even if a Trump presidency accomplishes nothing of note it will at least shake up the political establishment to the extent that better people have a hope to run successfully in the future. To people like me Trump is a puppet and a useful idiot, nothing more and certainly nothing less.
It was always strange to me that almost _everyone_ personally knows one or two people who would undoubtedly make a better president than anyone we've elected in our lifetimes.
 
It was always strange to me that almost _everyone_ personally knows one or two people who would undoubtedly make a better president than anyone we've elected in our lifetimes.

Well yea think about it, the only constitutional requirements for being president are being at least 26 years of age and a natural born citizen. Think of how magnificently progressive that was for something written in the 1700s when only white male landowners could vote. Yet today because of 150+ years of cronyism and corruption the office of the presidency is off limits to all but 1% of the wealthy and the famous. Our democracy has been taken from us and no one seems to give a fuck.

That shit frustrates me.
 
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