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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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And there are generics that cost a lot less, it's not like the EpiPen is the only option out there.
There are a few, but they are still overpriced. You can get prefilled epinephrine syringes for about $10 per dose, and even the non-Epipen alternative starts at $72 per dose (with coupon). Most people aren't trained to give shots though so there's no reason not to overcharge.

Again, part of the mark up is to recoup costs from the FDA approval process but a 600% mark up over jabbing yourself with a syringe seems a bit much.
 
There are a few, but they are still overpriced. You can get prefilled epinephrine syringes for about $10 per dose, and even the non-Epipen alternative starts at $72 per dose (with coupon). Most people aren't trained to give shots though so there's no reason not to overcharge.

Again, part of the mark up is to recoup costs from the FDA approval process but a 600% mark up over jabbing yourself with a syringe seems a bit much.
Those syringes cost far less to make than most drugs, and the company wasn't hurting for cash. That showed because the fuckers didn't cost 300 bucks a shot until after the companyvery generous pay raise for their CEO that multiplied her $2 million income nine fold.
I understand yuge wages are an incentive for CEOs doing a very demanding job, but if you are going to spend that kind of money...maybe it should go to your other employees. Payroll, HR, Legal dept., the mail clerk. This is part of why people are angry with the current system, and why so many people liked someone like Sanders. The point of the entire economy (capital, labor, resources, human capital) isn't to make private individuals simply more wealthy. Its meant to give people a chance to work, to put food on the table for their family, to free men from a state that blindly ignores the unanswered needs of a populus, while spending taxes on the wealthy to create a "trickle" of wealth for the majority. This doesn't mean a just economy has the state lord total control over the people (ala socialism). It means charity, good stewardship, fair trade, solidarity, the state serving the public in the name of the common good, subsidarity and recognition and highest respect for the dignity of all human life, no matter how wretched or small. This tug of war between worshiping the state or the invisible hand is a stalemate. There is no reason a common, lifesaving allergy medicine inflates in price far more rapidly than the actual inflation rate.
 
Those syringes cost far less to make than most drugs, and the company wasn't hurting for cash. That showed because the fuckers didn't cost 300 bucks a shot until after the companyvery generous pay raise for their CEO that multiplied her $2 million income nine fold.
I understand yuge wages are an incentive for CEOs doing a very demanding job, but if you are going to spend that kind of money...maybe it should go to your other employees. Payroll, HR, Legal dept., the mail clerk. This is part of why people are angry with the current system, and why so many people liked someone like Sanders. The point of the entire economy (capital, labor, resources, human capital) isn't to make private individuals simply more wealthy. Its meant to give people a chance to work, to put food on the table for their family, to free men from a state that blindly ignores the unanswered needs of a populus, while spending taxes on the wealthy to create a "trickle" of wealth for the majority. This doesn't mean a just economy has the state lord total control over the people (ala socialism). It means charity, good stewardship, fair trade, solidarity, the state serving the public in the name of the common good, subsidarity and recognition and highest respect for the dignity of all human life, no matter how wretched or small. This tug of war between worshiping the state or the invisible hand is a stalemate. There is no reason a common, lifesaving allergy medicine inflates in price far more rapidly than the actual inflation rate.

The system of capitalism simply works better when the money is in the hands of more people because it is a circulatory system by nature.

It's harder to get one rich guy to buy 82 toothbrushes than it is to get 82 people to buy 1 toothbrush. The rich guy is more likely to simply get a small amount of whatever he wants and then sit on the rest of his money--which is effectively taken out of the system. (Even if it is placed in a bank, the number of people high enough on the totem pole to get loans moving is insufficient.)
 
The system of capitalism simply works better when the money is in the hands of more people because it is a circulatory system by nature.

It's harder to get one rich guy to buy 82 toothbrushes than it is to get 82 people to buy 1 toothbrush. The rich guy is more likely to simply get a small amount of whatever he wants and then sit on the rest of his money--which is effectively taken out of the system. (Even if it is placed in a bank, the number of people high enough on the totem pole to get loans moving is insufficient.)
Rich people aren't the devil like many will claim, but the solution to capitalism's ills is to make more capitalists. This is why guilds were better than unions, since guilds included management, as well as workers.
 
Rich people aren't the devil like many will claim, but the solution to capitalism's ills is to make more capitalists. This is why guilds were better than unions, since guilds included management, as well as workers.

The rich just need to step up to the "job creators" bit and they can do it--but they have to choose to do it. Absent the intervention of the tax man or something similar, there's no way to force them.
 
The rich just need to step up to the "job creators" bit and they can do it--but they have to choose to do it. Absent the intervention of the tax man or something similar, there's no way to force them.

The problem is - it feels like we may need to force them, as messed as that sounds, unfortunately. There are a lot of people who do share that mindset opposite of yours out there, to tell the truth.

And honestly - I don't feel enough rich people are truly doing their part to help the masses that made them that way out, myself...
 
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The problem is - it feels like we may need to force them, as messed as that sounds, unfortunately. There are a lot of people who do share that mindset opposite of yours out there, to tell the truth.
If the lowest level of authority cannot help, go to the next level. There would be no need for SNAP cards if we recognized just how much food we throw away, how inaccurate expiration dates are, and how obsessed we are with aestetics. If we stopped growing so much corn to feed to livestock and instead used our resouces responsibly to feed people sticken by famine and food insecurity, food stamps eould be obsolete. The US' agricultural policies are killing the family farm by encouraging overproduction, the flooding the market and suppresing prices, which family farms rely on to mantain their way of life. Only massive agricultural firms could turn a profit in this environment.
The Flint water crisis must be our wake up call. We cannot afford to put off updating and maintaining our infrastructure, while burning money to try and build a VTOL jet. The oil price spikes and heating earth is a sign we need to break away from coal and oil and combat climate change at every level, from the individual, to the family, and all the way to the international community. We don't need an oil pipeline that runs through sacred American Indian land! We need wind and tidal turbines, solar pannels, hydrogen fuel cells, possibly even geothermic power. Money needs to go to find a way to build better nuclear reactors, they could be Liquid Floride Thorium reactors or they could use He-3, rare on Earth, but abundant on the Moon. You shouldn't be cutting space exploration, we need to do more. Not just in space, but science in general needs to be encouraged and nutured, while still protecting the natural law. We need to enforce black letter law to break apart the price gouging trusts of healthcare providers and drug companies. Even if only used once, equipment like crutches and unopened suture packets are thrown away wastefully. Another trust that must go is news and media. We should never have allowed them to fall into the hands of a few aristocrats.
We need to bridge the gap between black communities and the police, recognizing actual corruption, excessive force and even institutionalize racism, as well as a culture of violence and resentment where ever it may fester.
Everyone deserves the chance to at productive, honest and justly paid work. Every child deserves an education that builds them up and prepares them for the future, poverty should not be a barrier, not while schools outrace inflation and collude with textboom companies! We must remove the payroll tax cap if we hope to keep Social Security alive and liquid.
My point is that the only way a society can be truely measured by greatness is not its military or wealth. It lays in how its people rally together to help the poorest, the weakest, and the smallest. That all starts at the smallest level, the individual. Not the government, not the richest capitalists, but every man, woman, and child.
 
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Im a wee spooked by the effectiveness of Control, er I mean Correct The Record Super-PAC.

Even a month ago /the_donald controlled the front page of reddit and /enoughtrumpspam was a ghost town.

Now they can't even get on the frontage of /all and the anti-trump reddits rule /all.

/politics might as well be /hillary_clinton for all the anti-Hillary posts that get burned 5 mins after they're written while the pro-Hillary get mad up-votes in seconds.

Scary how much one dedicated (paid) group of shills can turn a tide. I just wonder how much money it took to buy the Redit admins.

This is the future of elections, paid a shills fighting it out on social media. The winner gets to control the narrative of the election.

Pretty shitty way to end democracy.
 
Putting heavy tax burdens on the top earners to force them to invest is probably a good way. IIRC, that's how it was back in the days before Reagan although correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Im a wee spooked by the effectiveness of Control, er I mean Correct The Record Super-PAC.

Even a month ago /the_donald controlled the front page of reddit and /enoughtrumpspam was a ghost town.

Now they can't even get on the frontage of /all and the anti-trump reddits rule /all.

/politics might as well be /hillary_clinton for all the anti-Hillary posts that get burned 5 mins after they're written while the pro-Hillary get mad up-votes in seconds.

Scary how much one dedicated (paid) group of shills can turn a tide. I just wonder how much money it took to buy the Redit admins.

This is the future of elections, paid a shills fighting it out on social media. The winner gets to control the narrative of the election.

Pretty shitty way to end democracy.
Democarcy's corpse was just molested with CTR. Citizens helped unleash a deluge of cash, much obliged SCOUTUS. Attempting to stop voter fraud (impersonation) while conveniently targeting individuals who vote Democrat and openly admiting suppression was the stratagy is pretty fucking scummy too. Plus, it isn't out of the question that organized crime ties with the Kennedy's is what helped JFK in 1960.
I only hope Scalia is being trampled underfoot by beasts in Hell.
 
Putting heavy tax burdens on the top earners to force them to invest is probably a good way. IIRC, that's how it was back in the days before Reagan although correct me if I'm wrong.

Absolutely right.

The more and more I read about Reagan, the less and less I like him as a president, though removing tax burdens is historically not something unique to Reagan.

His administration suffered from stupid amounts of deregulation brought on by a blind, mistaken belief (or perhaps malevolent action by third parties) in supply-side economics. While this brought economic improvements in the short term to America's upper class, the gap between the rich and the poor widened tremendously, as despite the GDP's growth, the vast majority of the money gained went to a disproportionately small group of the American populace. This is nothing new in a capitalist society, but this problem was so badly exacerbated by Reagan's tax cuts and deregulation that it actually hurt the economy in the long term and lead to (among other things) the Savings and Loan crisis, as well as the almost tripling of the national debt, turning America from the world's largest creditor into the world's largest debtor.

This, of course, doesn't even mention the massive amounts of corruption in Reagan's cabinet, the Nicaraguan foreign relations disaster, or the growth of both a massive drug epidemic and a huge, wasteful, ineffective campaign to get rid of said epidemic.
 
This, of course, doesn't even mention the massive amounts of corruption in Reagan's cabinet, the Nicaraguan foreign relations disaster, or the growth of both a massive drug epidemic and a huge, wasteful, ineffective campaign to get rid of said epidemic.

Just want to focus on this. There have been several studies and papers published about drug epidemics and how to deal with them. The conclusions always support interdiction in new, emerging epidemics and treatment/education for established epidemics. Last time I looked was around 2004 maybe, and I don't think anyone has changed their mind. Drug interdiction policies against established drug epidemics are massively wasteful in total dollars and human capital. Anybody who's worth a shit in this area of policy knows this.

We've had lip service paid to acknowledging this since Bush. Obama's got a big old web page about how awesome he is for being in favor of education and treatment. Yet both of these idiots have us hosing down South America from the air with defoliants. Asset forfeitures continue unabated. The DEA under both administrations refuse to reclassify or declassify marijuana.

The answer has been known forever. It is just that nobody is holding these presidents' feet to the fire.
 
Im a wee spooked by the effectiveness of Control, er I mean Correct The Record Super-PAC.

Even a month ago /the_donald controlled the front page of reddit and /enoughtrumpspam was a ghost town.

Now they can't even get on the frontage of /all and the anti-trump reddits rule /all.

/politics might as well be /hillary_clinton for all the anti-Hillary posts that get burned 5 mins after they're written while the pro-Hillary get mad up-votes in seconds.

Scary how much one dedicated (paid) group of shills can turn a tide. I just wonder how much money it took to buy the Redit admins.

This is the future of elections, paid a shills fighting it out on social media. The winner gets to control the narrative of the election.

Pretty shitty way to end democracy.

The_Donald was also using botnets to mass-down vote certain users and certain subs, while upvoting others.

Also its reddit, it literally doesn't matter.
 
Just want to focus on this. There have been several studies and papers published about drug epidemics and how to deal with them. The conclusions always support interdiction in new, emerging epidemics and treatment/education for established epidemics. Last time I looked was around 2004 maybe, and I don't think anyone has changed their mind. Drug interdiction policies against established drug epidemics are massively wasteful in total dollars and human capital. Anybody who's worth a shit in this area of policy knows this.

We've had lip service paid to acknowledging this since Bush. Obama's got a big old web page about how awesome he is for being in favor of education and treatment. Yet both of these idiots have us hosing down South America from the air with defoliants. Asset forfeitures continue unabated. The DEA under both administrations refuse to reclassify or declassify marijuana.

The answer has been known forever. It is just that nobody is holding these presidents' feet to the fire.
It was a mistake to let private entities own prisons. It creates an artificial "demand" for criminals. Why bother getting kids in bad neighborhoods out of the shitty environment, when you let the culture poison them and trap them in a profitible cycle. Just like payday loans, or actually charging any interest in a full recourse loan
 
I don't see that much mainstream Hillary criticism so this was a surprise to me.

Criticising her Clinton Foundaation ties, calls for it to be put under independent management
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/u...inton-presidential-campaign-charity.html?_r=2

Researcher into Hillary finds records on Hillary missing after visiting a second time to the National Archives.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Vince-Foster-vanished-National-Archives.html

Also found this screenie. Make of it what you will.

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I love how salty some Trump supporters are getting over his immigration flip flop, while the other half are pulling a Katrina Pierson. He's literally using Jeb Bush's talking points, and it is hilarious.

Tom Morello to Paul Ryan.

It's amazing how much Christie's fucked up since the 2012 primary. He was on Romney's VP list and he was their keynote speaker.

Fast forward four years, and he's desperately clinging to Trump's campaign for relevance. I hope he gets crushed in his next election.
He's term limited for Governor of New Jersey, and I don't really see him running for the House or Senate, at least not in 2018.
 
I don't see that much mainstream Hillary criticism so this was a surprise to me.

Criticising her Clinton Foundaation ties, calls for it to be put under independent management
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/u...inton-presidential-campaign-charity.html?_r=2

Researcher into Hillary finds records on Hillary missing after visiting a second time to the National Archives.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Vince-Foster-vanished-National-Archives.html

Also found this screenie. Make of it what you will.

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Each time I open the local newspaper there's a mention on Hilary and her donators. A few days ago I skimmed over an article about how she was giving favors to some of them, like fast tracking a visa for an executive donator.
 
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