MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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:powerlevel:I actually went down to a state convention as a Bernie delegate and I was left wondering if I was supporting a politician or a cult leader. It is one thing hearing about Bernie supports being zealots and seeing youtube videos but it is another thing actually seeing the behavior personally.

When the guy representing Bernie came up on the stage a Hillary supporter spoke up and said, "Hillary supporters please be polite". The Bernie speech was all about "Go Bernie, together we will make America great, hope and change, and blah blah blah." I didn't stay for the whole Bernie rep's speech as at that point I was getting burned out on speeches. As much as I may like Bernie but seeing the zealotry live in real life creeps me out. I can see why the DNC committee would want to take steps to reign in the zealots. While Bernie may disapprove of riots, but he is fanning the flames proving the reason for the slogan "Feeling the Bern". Honestly, there is probably enough material to start up a community watch thread on Bernie supporters if there isn't one already.

The Hillary representative's speech was a lecture to Bernie supporters to please be adults and realize that part of the democratic process is respecting the views of even those who you disagree. Trump was used as the boogie man. Throughout his speech other Bernie supporters were heckling him and being disruptive, although at least it was nowhere near as bad as it was in Nevada.
It's literally the same thing that happened with Ron Paul in 2012, but with more media attention (since he's essentially been Clinton's sole opponent, as O'Malley, Webb, Chafee, and Lessig were literally wasting everyone's time). The GOP was lucky, though, in that the party as a whole at the national level wasn't moving in Paul's ideological direction, the field was wide and Paul wasn't much of a factor after February, and there are no unelected superdelegates who may sway the nomination, none of which is the case for Democrats this year. I will agree that they almost seem like members of a cult; it's absolutely nuts to watch.
 
:powerlevel:I actually went down to a state convention as a Bernie delegate and I was left wondering if I was supporting a politician or a cult leader. It is one thing hearing about Bernie supports being zealots and seeing youtube videos but it is another thing actually seeing the behavior personally.

When the guy representing Bernie came up on the stage a Hillary supporter spoke up and said, "Hillary supporters please be polite". The Bernie speech was all about "Go Bernie, together we will make America great, hope and change, and blah blah blah." I didn't stay for the whole Bernie rep's speech as at that point I was getting burned out on speeches. As much as I may like Bernie but seeing the zealotry live in real life creeps me out. I can see why the DNC committee would want to take steps to reign in the zealots. While Bernie may disapprove of riots, but he is fanning the flames proving the reason for the slogan "Feeling the Bern". Honestly, there is probably enough material to start up a community watch thread on Bernie supporters if there isn't one already.

The Hillary representative's speech was a lecture to Bernie supporters to please be adults and realize that part of the democratic process is respecting the views of even those who you disagree. Trump was used as the boogie man. Throughout his speech other Bernie supporters were heckling him and being disruptive, although at least it was nowhere near as bad as it was in Nevada.

Hope and change by any means necessary!
 
Got an article for that? This is fucking hillarious.

It's from real clear politics's aggregate polling.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...s/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

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Hill's lead over Trump has completely evaporated.

and it happened in about 4 days.

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On the one hand this is funny, on the other hand...

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/05/09/politics/donald-trump-national-debt-strategy/
Trump: U.S. will never default 'because you print the money'
"People said I want to go and buy debt and default on debt, and I mean, these people are crazy. This is the United States government," Trump told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day." "First of all, you never have to default because you print the money, I hate to tell you, OK?"

That plan is insane and could destroy the world economy.
 
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That plan is insane and could destroy the world economy.
Trump was in his 30s when Portillo led Mexico to default, and in his 50s when Yeltzin did the same to Russia.

And he's gonna be the next president of a country already suffering both historic debt issues and a Brezhnevesque bloat in military spending that he wants to increase?

. . . I think I'll leave a few links:

 
My kingdom for a horrifying rating in this thread

The only thing I will say is that it is too early to rely on polls. Remember, we have 6 more months of this shit, two conventions to slog through, VP picks, debates, and the usual cases of foot in mouth.

The only problem is that clinton has never reversed a polling trend in her political career. I anticipate that after the convention and dnc riots her support will tank even more.
 
My kingdom for a horrifying rating in this thread

The only thing I will say is that it is too early to rely on polls. Remember, we have 6 more months of this shit, two conventions to slog through, VP picks, debates, and the usual cases of foot in mouth.
It's worth noting he was around 6.5 points behind Clinton until a week or two ago, this bump seems to be less to do with a fault of Clinton, and more the fact Trump finally put his rivals away and became the de facto nominee. I would expect a similar bounce for Clinton once Sanders is gone. Though the question now becomes when will Sanders concede? Will he concede after California or DC, and reluctantly agree to endorse Clinton, and maybe campaign for her too to get his holdout supporters to support her? Or will he actually go all the way to the convention, and make a play at stealing the nomination from her by having the super delegates somehow all go to him?

To be fully honest, I'm not really sure what the hell Sanders is planning. The 2008 primary was much more hostile and vicious between Obama and Clinton, but even then, there was some amount of civility, at least towards the party itself. But you have Sanders now accusing both Clinton and the DNC of being corrupt, and trying to rile his supporters up against them, making them doubt the Democratic party in its entirety. Even Clinton at her worst in 2008 only attacked Obama, she never attacked the integrity of the DNC and the party as a whole, but not only do you have Sanders calling the DNC chairperson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, corrupt, he's also saying that if he's president she will not be renominated, but he's endorsed and is supporting her primary challenger in order to knock her out of the House because he was upset that she attacked him for the Nevada shit, which seems fairly reasonable to do after what happened, and after Sander's half-hearted 'apology'. Bernie has gotten awfully vindictive, and seems completely okay with ripping apart anyone who he sees in his way at all, or anyone he at least can use as a scapegoat.

I'm honestly not convinced Sanders is not going to try to pull a coup against Clinton at the DNC. He's been laying pretty hard into Clinton and the party itself recently, and polls numbers show that his supporters opinion of Clinton continues to plummet, which will negatively affect Clinton's poll numbers. Sanders may be deliberately attempting to make Clinton's numbers against Trump as negative as possible, in order to bolster the argument that he's been making over the last few weeks, that the super delegates should give him the nomination because his numbers are presently better against Trump. It's unlikely to work, but I suppose it's theoretically possible. Though I sincerely doubt Sanders could go onto win the general after pulling that, stealing the nomination via super delegates at the last moment, especially after he's attacked Clinton as much as he has, despite her going soft on him, would enrage a large quantity of her supporters. And if his coup fails in the end, and Clinton wins the nomination regardless, Sanders is likely to have divided the left enough that T rump can sail in easily.
 
To be fully honest, I'm not really sure what the hell Sanders is planning. The 2008 primary was much more hostile and vicious between Obama and Clinton, but even then, there was some amount of civility, at least towards the party itself. But you have Sanders now accusing both Clinton and the DNC of being corrupt, and trying to rile his supporters up against them, making them doubt the Democratic party in its entirety. Even Clinton at her worst in 2008 only attacked Obama, she never attacked the integrity of the DNC and the party as a whole, but not only do you have Sanders calling the DNC chairperson, Debbie Wasserman Schultz, corrupt, he's also saying that if he's president she will not be renominated, but he's endorsed and is supporting her primary challenger in order to knock her out of the House because he was upset that she attacked him for the Nevada shit, which seems fairly reasonable to do after what happened, and after Sander's half-hearted 'apology'. Bernie has gotten awfully vindictive, and seems completely okay with ripping apart anyone who he sees in his way at all, or anyone he at least can use as a scapegoat.
It's the Clintons. They're as corrupt as any politicians this country has ever seen. Bill Clinton's last day in office was spent pardoning a crooked tax cheat who did business with Iran in the middle of the hostage crisis because his Misses cut him a million dollar check he didn't even need since he was given a ten million dollar advance for a book deal before it was even written.

The Clintons poison everything they touch with corruption, and they only tuck the entire Democratic Party further into their pockets with each passing year.
 
The Clintons poison everything they touch with corruption, and they only tuck the entire Democratic Party further into their pockets with each passing year.

I could see that, if it wasn't for the fact a large amount of the party publicly broke towards and supported a freshman Senator named Barack Obama in 2008. Not counting the people who went over from Clinton to Obama once it was clear he was winning, Obama was still up over one hundred superdelegates compared to Clinton then. Hell, you even had Harry Reid, the long serving and then Senate Majority Leader, arguably the second highest ranking Democrat in the nation then after Nancy Pelosi, specifically sitting down Obama and telling him he should run because they wanted an alternative to Clinton.

I don't doubt they have a great amount of influence and control, at least of certain people, but there are enough established politicians and leaders who wouldn't want to bet a tool to the Clinton family. I'm skeptical that the Clintons, after losing the superdelegates to Obama already in 2008, could proceed to gain such a foothold in the party whilst Obama was serving two terms as the head of it.
 
Jesus Hillary you had everything going for you (donors, a fanbase, a vagina, and the media) and somehow you're being fucked up by Trump of all people, the guy who thought the housing market tanking in 2006 was a great idea.
 
Debbie Wasserman Schultz

Schultz as party head has been a complete failure. Not only have the democrats bled senators and representatives since her appointment, she's presented no strategy to turn the losses around. When she's not doing the bidding of whatever industry bought her she's screwing around in the primary. She was always in the Clinton camp and deliberately scheduled debates in poorly viewed timeslots to give sanders little exposure, among other schemes she pulled.

I'm not defending Sanders tactics (or his supporters conduct) but the DNC is fucking useless and in the pocket of whoever's friends with it.

I would not have sex with the DNC.
 
Schultz as party head has been a complete failure. Not only have the democrats bled senators and representatives since her appointment, she's presented no strategy to turn the losses around. When she's not doing the bidding of whatever industry bought her she's screwing around in the primary. She was always in the Clinton camp and deliberately scheduled debates in poorly viewed timeslots to give sanders little exposure, among other schemes she pulled.

I'm not defending Sanders tactics (or his supporters conduct) but the DNC is fucking useless and in the pocket of whoever's friends with it.

I would not have sex with the DNC.
To be honest, all of the shit that happened in this year's Democratic Primaries and the DNC's asskissing of Killary actually made me want to vote Republican or any other party that isn't the fucking Democratic Party. If it's gonna be Trump v. Clinton, I'm either gonna vote Trump or vote Third Party. Killary should be in prison by now, especially with all of the election fraud that happened.
 
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