MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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Womacker said:
The Young Turks have gone full exceptional individual with their broadcast tonight.

Notable quotes include but are not limited to.

"YES! DEMOCRATS NEED A PURITY TEST! BUT EVEN THOUGH THE TEA PARTY HAD ONE OURS WOULD BE RIGHT!"
"Donald Trump will begin a path to gas muslims"
"Hillary is a neocon in sheep's clothing"

and many more!
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They went off the deep end quite a while ago. Any number of them could pass for the left wing Alex Jones.
 
Womacker said:
Ugh, just had a flashback from before my state's primary and I was campaigning for Rubio and a girl said "Rubio acts too robotic for me to be willing to vote for him. Why not vote for Cruz, he knows exactly what to say and never says the wrong things."

Yeah lady. Sure looks like he knew all the right buttons to press here.
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Rubio certainly had problems with his being overly scripted, but still, I can't believe that both him and Bush were eliminated as quickly as they were. I specifically recall thinking back during the height of the Tea Party and the rise of actors like Rubio; Cruz; and Paul, that Rubio seemed like he was in the perfect spot to run within the near future. Young; attractive with a great family ;and Cuban, he seemed like a pretty good Republican response to Obama. He even was more moderate on immigration policy, which seemed like an intelligent decision given the party's ever growing problem with the Latino population. Really it seemed like his only 'flaw' then was the water incident. But I simply can't get over how badly he was burned by the activists and diehards of the party over immigration, which seemed like the politically sound move for winning a general election at any point. He wasn't a moderate, and was rather conservative, but even having one moderate opinion was enough to get him roasted alive by the tea party base.

Really the whole way primaries works seems like a dumb idea. It's easy to support everything your party hardliners take 100% when you're appealing to literally just them, but it pushes out candidates who could actually win in general elections, and leaves those who can survive the primary process having to reconcile their hard stances they take--right or left--with the fact that you can't win a presidential election by just getting your base rallied. Works in mid-terms, but not generals.
 
Emiya Kiwitsugu said:
He wasn't a moderate, and was rather conservative, but even having one moderate opinion was enough to get him roasted alive by the tea party base.
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Trump is fairly moderate on several issues besides immigration but has avoided a lot of the flak for that. It seems like immigration and foreign policy have become flashpoints for the Right this cycle.
 
Womacker said:
The Young Turks have gone full exceptional individual with their broadcast tonight.

Notable quotes include but are not limited to.

"YES! DEMOCRATS NEED A PURITY TEST! BUT EVEN THOUGH THE TEA PARTY HAD ONE OURS WOULD BE RIGHT!"
"Donald Trump will begin a path to gas muslims"
"Hillary is a neocon in sheep's clothing"

and many more!
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As their once mighty empire, previously predicted to last 1000 election cycles, crumbled around them, the 69th Sanders Shill Division Das Cuck took up their positions in the shattered capital Bernlin. But they did not face outwards to the incoming threat. No, rather they faced inwards, on the lookout for potential "deserters" to summarily execute for attempting to escape the madness of their leader's own creation.
 
DuskEngine said:
Trump is fairly moderate on several issues besides immigration but has avoided a lot of the flak for that. It seems like immigration and foreign policy have become flashpoints for the Right this cycle.
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I think in part it is more that Trump has a foreign style to mainstream ones that made Rubio look bad for the cycle rather than his actual positions
 
autisticdragonkin said:
I think in part it is more that Trump has a foreign style to mainstream ones that made Rubio look bad for the cycle rather than his actual positions
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Exactly. He hammered Rubio in foreign policy against our enemies and immigration because those were the two points Rubio couldn't beat him.

Had moderators ever kept a debate away from that, Trump would have seen a minor stumping.
 
Rubio always had a strong record of being lazy. In his home state he did little else other then stab his friends in the back, at the national level he compromised himself with actions the base wouldn't tolerate.

Rubio was always a loser.
 
Rubio's broad demographic problem was very simple: for almost everybody who was willing to vote for him he was a second-choice candidate. He lacked an actual base he could call home and he had no signature issues or achievements of consequence he could highlight to attract a large enough one. A lot of pointyheads thought he was a tabula rasa to project their ideals on and didn't think that maybe that could be a liability in that he could be outflanked at every turn in an election where the redefinition of issues was a key factor.

It also didn't help Rubio at all that his entire history in politics was not only angling for the next job (and not really doing his current job in the process), but also straight out discarding people once he'd stepped over their backs. The comparisons to Obama, another stair-stepper, fall flat because Obama at least remembered to help his friends along the way. The message got sent loud and clear in Florida though: whereas Cruz in Texas and Kasich in Ohio had local party apparatus to fall back on that got votes out for them, the Florida GOP had no enthusiasm to bother with him since he'd at best stepped over and beyond them all and at worst actively fucked them over. His catfight with Jeb was just the ultimate distillation of that tendency towards duplicity.

Sure, there were tactical blunders that kicked him in the balls (trying to out-Trump Trump for short term gains when his major asset was ostensible likability is notable), but ultimately it was a lack of strategy that ensured he really had nowhere to go in the first place. If Jeb hadn't done the shock-and-awe war chest amassing a year in advance and basically destroyed most of the rest of the field through fund starvation, a number of other also-rans who didn't make it through 2015 could've as readily dispatched him and been viable contenders.
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/trumps-real-magic-number-is-less-than-1-237-222184

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Even before Donald Trump’s big win in New York Tuesday night, the conversations among party officials and high-level operatives about a contested Republican convention were already shifting dramatically.

The magic number of delegates for Trump to clinch the nomination on the first ballot, likely to be his best and perhaps only chance to do so, remains 1,237. But there are now whispers that the real number of delegates Trump must win by June 7, when the final contests take place, may be lower.
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When the convention opens in Cleveland in mid-July, roughly 200 delegates will arrive as free agents, unbound by the results of primaries or caucuses in their states. Trump’s campaign is confident they can win as many of them as they must in order to get to 1,237 on the first ballot.

“Trump has to get to 1,237, but there’s a lot of talk about, ‘What is the real number?’” said another RNC member. “Whatever half the uncommitted number is, that’s probably a reasonable number.”

“I think a lot of people think if he gets within 50-100 [of 1,237], he’ll be able to carry it,” said Steve House, the Colorado GOP chairman, who is himself an unbound delegate and is already being courted by the Trump and Cruz campaigns.[/QUOTE]
The whisper conversations about this indeterminate “real number” that Trump must hit by June 7 reveal a growing if reluctant consensus among party officials and establishment Republicans that if he gets close enough, they can’t take the nomination away.

“If he’s close after June 7, there’ll be a compelling reason for folks to say he’s won the most delegates by a lot and he’s won the most voters by a ton,” said Ron Kaufman, an RNC member from Massachusetts who is close to Mitt Romney and supported Jeb Bush earlier this year.
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Womacker said:
Exactly. He hammered Rubio in foreign policy against our enemies and immigration because those were the two points Rubio couldn't beat him.
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Which is funny considering Trump is abjectly ignorant of even the basics of foreign policy.
 
Dudeofteenage said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rubio becomes the Republican candidate in 2020.
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The only thing that sort of prevents Rubio from being the candidate in 2020 is that he said he wasn't planning on doing politics for a while.

Apparently Kanye West is still pretty serious about running for President in 2020 (and most likely going under the Democrat's wing), so chances are the Democrats could actually end up like the Republicans are this election when the next one comes.
 
Dudeofteenage said:
I wouldn't be at all surprised if Rubio becomes the Republican candidate in 2020.
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I doubt it. Even if he somehow rehabilitates his image in the eyes of the party he'll still be too late. The overton window will keep moving right within the GOP.
 
Ass Manager 3000 said:
I doubt it. Even if he somehow rehabilitates his image in the eyes of the party he'll still be too late. The overton window will keep moving right within the GOP.
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I disagree, but since I'm only mostly an autistic sperg online I don't really feel like arguing about a candidate who has already dropped, even if I did like him a lot.
 
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