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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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DerSandstrom said:
I doubt Ted Cruz will be the answer the GOP is looking for. Cruz, as much as he wants to avoid it, is pretty much Donald Trump-lite.

Trump is very polarizing, but regardless of what happens, the GOP is going to splinter off like a polar ice cap. Either Trump somehow gets nominated and moderates get pissed and vote for someone else out of spite, or Cruz/Kasich/Random party member that the GOP drags into the picture gets the nomination and Trump's supporters get pissed and break off from the party.

It's a mess for them either way.
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It's a very big deal that other candidates are refusing to say they'd support the nominee, whoever it is. That's a sign the party can not unite at a crucial time.
 
KatsuKitty said:
It's a very big deal that other candidates are refusing to say they'd support the nominee, whoever it is. That's a sign the party can not unite at a crucial time.
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Exactly, whatever happens is likely to be a massive clusterfuck for the GOP. If the party isn't turned into a husk by 2020, I expect to see some radical changes to the whole process.
 
DerSandstrom said:
I doubt Ted Cruz will be the answer the GOP is looking for. Cruz, as much as he wants to avoid it, is pretty much Donald Trump-lite.

Trump is very polarizing, but regardless of what happens, the GOP is going to splinter off like a polar ice cap. Either Trump somehow gets nominated and moderates get pissed and vote for someone else out of spite, or Cruz/Kasich/Random party member that the GOP drags into the picture gets the nomination and Trump's supporters get pissed and break off from the party.

It's a mess for them either way.
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Except there's no reason the moderates shouldn't hate Cruz either. This is the same man who shut down the government a few years back.
 
KatsuKitty said:
With the brokered convention locked in, I'm reasonably certain it's all but over for Trump. As well as the GOP winning in 2016. I'm predicting they'll put up Cruz as a compromise, "please don't burn the party down" candidate, and he just can't win a general election as an extremist evangelical.
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TFW Ted Cruz is a "compromise candidate"
 
The GOP has continued to kowtow to extremist elements in its party that are key to getting nominations, but can't conceivably win a general election. And while the most prominent elements of that have been religious nuts recently, there are also the sorts who don't really care about that and want someone like Trump.

Neither of those are willing to settle for compromise candidates any more, so they can't even unite around a useless asshole like Mitt Romney, who gives each of them a lite version (at best) of what they actually want. To be fair, why should they? All a Romney could do is lose less massively.
 
KatsuKitty said:
He's basically the last not-Trump they have that doesn't involve the base burning down the party's headquarters in a rage.
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I wouldn't be quite so sure. Cruz is almost as hated as Trump, and the extent to which he's not quite as hated may simply reflect that he hasn't enjoyed wall-to-wall coverage.

AnOminous said:
The GOP has continued to kowtow to extremist elements in its party that are key to getting nominations, but can't conceivably win a general election. ... all a Romney could do is lose less massively.
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This is the basic problem for Republicans. They can either go for a lunatic like Trump or Cruz, lose, and then spend four years creating paranoid myths about why the election was stolen by Democrats - or elect a non-lunatic but electorally bland 'moderate' like Romney, lose a bit more credibly, and then spend four years creating paranoid myths about why the election was betrayed by moderate Republicans.

At the Presidential level, the Republican coalition just doesn't work. They are too weak with women, blacks and latinos, who together make up an enormous electoral bloc. And their strategies to win over those groups basically involve trying to convince women that they shouldn't really care about abortion, or latinos that they shouldn't really care about immigration.

They have two options - either just give up on the Presidency and focus on winning power in the Senate and Congress (where they are much more able to win elections, and are arguably just as powerful), or rejig the party massively. The problem with the latter is that it's pretty much impossible to do deliberately.
 
DerSandstrom said:
Either Trump somehow gets nominated and moderates get pissed and vote for someone else out of spite, or Cruz/Kasich/Random party member that the GOP drags into the picture gets the nomination and Trump's supporters get pissed and break off from the party.
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I doubt that many GOP moderates would go for the Democratic nominee if Trump is nominated. Obama had many Republicans vote for him because they didn't want McCain, a moderate Republican, to win the presidency. I hope that they've learned their lesson about partisan unity, but they probably haven't. The fact is that there are too many separate coalitions within the Republican Party who absolutely despise each other.
Dudeofteenage said:
At the Presidential level, the Republican coalition just doesn't work. They are too weak with women, blacks and latinos, who together make up an enormous electoral bloc. And their strategies to win over those groups basically involve trying to convince women that they shouldn't really care about abortion, or latinos that they shouldn't really care about immigration.
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Thank you so much, Hart-Celler, thank you so fucking much. (:_(
 
RepQuest said:
I doubt that many GOP moderates would go for the Democratic nominee if Trump is nominated. Obama had many Republicans vote for him because they didn't want McCain, a moderate Republican, to win the presidency.
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I firmly believe that those Republicans didn't vote for McCain because of how divisive and incompetent Sarah Palin looked after her first few speeches than it was about McCain himself, although his reputation as a "wholly neutral and non-partisan Senator" was pretty much gone by 2008.
 
RepQuest said:
I doubt that many GOP moderates would go for the Democratic nominee if Trump is nominated. Obama had many Republicans vote for him because they didn't want McCain, a moderate Republican, to win the presidency.
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I'd be surprised by this. The only people I knew who tentatively supported McCain only to switch to Obama later were not Democrats, but conservative-leaning independents registered in no party who were horrified by Sarah Palin.

I also wouldn't anticipate this happening with Hillary. I don't know how many Republicans you know, but I don't know a single Republican who doesn't detest Hillary with a white-hot hatred like the flames of Hell.
 
AnOminous said:
I also wouldn't anticipate this happening with Hillary. I don't know how many Republicans you know, but I don't know a single Republican who doesn't detest Hillary with a white-hot hatred like the flames of Hell.
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Republicans might not switch from Trump to Hillary, but they might just not vote. And if they were otherwise likely to have voted, that's a win for the Democrats.
 
Anyone who thinks that Cruz is a "religious extremist" has read too much Dawkins.

In other news, the LA Times ran an article on California's AIP. A good portion of it involves the humorous tendency for liberals to register as "American Independent" because they are incapable of doing their research prior to registering to vote.
“I had a voter totally break down and cry in my lobby,” Pellerin added, recalling a young woman who wanted to vote in the 2008 Democratic primary between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, but couldn’t because she'd registered with the American Independent Party.

“The poor thing just sobbed,” Pellerin said. “It’s very frustrating.”
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More relevant to this year's election is the expressed desire of the party leaders to nominate Trump as their candidate.
American Independent Party leaders tried to include GOP candidate Donald Trump on their list of presidential candidates for the June statewide primary. State elections officials refused, pointing out that there was no record of Trump’s willingness to accept the party’s help.

Robinson, the American Independent Party’s most visible and long serving leader in California, is a prolific political commentator on Twitter. His recent tweets have offered support for Trump’s promise of a wall between the United States and Mexico, as well as his one-time suggestion of criminal punishment for women who have an abortion.

“If we punish abortionists (accomplices) & not the perpetrator (generally the mother) all who hire killers must be unpunished also,” wrote Robinson in a tweet on March 31.

Robinson, 72, told The Times that the party may try again to boost Trump this fall if he fails to win the Republican Party nomination.

“If he’s cheated out, we’re very likely to put him on the ballot line of the American Independent Party,” said Robinson.
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Trump won't be able to run a full third-party campaign, but he very well may be on the ballot in California. It's not going to hit the GOP too hard considering the state will go to the Democrat's anyway, but 2016 may turn out to have the strongest showing of the AIP since '72.
 
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We're all voting for Jim Hayden, yeh?
 
Dudeofteenage said:
Do you believe that there is an "atheist Taliban" in America today that is promoting a "war against faith and religious liberty"?
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The former is a bit of political hyperbole taken out of whatever its original context was for the purpose of a hit piece, and the latter is a fact.

There is no more justification in calling Cruz an "extremist" for making statements you consider dumb than there is calling Sanders one for his assertion that climate change is our #1 national security problem.
 
Lucky Wildcard said:
I found this article this morning. Hillary refuses to release her Wall Street transcripts because the author believes that the information within it can ruin her bid for the presidency.
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Probably not but they certainly wouldn't help. Goldman Sachs doesn't pay you $675,000 to tell the truth over three installments for three speeches.

From accounts of people who were there, the speeches made her sound like exactly the cocksucking whore she is.
 
I wish Sanders boosters would knock off the silly posts declaring Bernie's election would make the world become Star Trek. I'm a huge loser-freak nerd and I cringe every time I read that sort of thing. Aside from the silly optimism, this ignores that in Star Trek, Earth only becomes "United Earth" after World War III.
 
Allow me to embody Reddit for a moment. Those of you lucky souls that stay off of that site haven't seen the cancer from this election. Let me try and sum it up as best as I can. I call this one, "Ballad of the Bern".

*deep breath*


:woo::woo::woo:BERNIE SANDERS! HE'S GOING TO HANG THE RICH AND MAKE COLLEGE FREE FOR ALL! MATCH MY DONATION REDDIT IF YOU CARE ABOUT LIVING ANOTHER YEAR! :woo::woo::woo:


This sort of thing is everywhere, especially tonight as his campaign makes a desperate bid to survive. I look forward to tomorrow's popcorn in the losses taken in NY.
 
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