MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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seagull said:
In other news, Trump's leads in Louisiana and Kentucky have shrunk considerably. I think he's going to hold on, at least in Louisiana, but he really hasn't had the best night.
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I think this is the first night since Iowa that Trump didn't come away with the most delegates
 
How is Trump expected to do in Porto Rico? I haven't been able to find any polls.
 
Trump and Cruz are now calling for the other Republicans to drop out of the race so they can battle it out between the two of them.
 
Trump is now promising to obey the law if elected President. Apparently someone informed him that killing the families of terrorists is a war crime and will literally make him a nazi.
 
Hyperion said:
Trump is now promising to obey the law if elected President.
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Sounds good, but if you have to go out of your way to assure people that you'll obey the law, perhaps your sincere promise is not the larger issue.

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Yeah, Cruz has been unexpectedly strong tonight.

Almost stumped the trump :trump:
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It's interesting - Trump seems to be particularly weak in the Midwest. Look at this map:
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That's a pretty solid geographical block of non-Trump states, especially if you count Rubio's win in Minnesota.

Is this significant? Kinda. Trump can probably win the primaroes without ever winning a Midwestern state, so in and of itself this pattern doesn't stand between him and the nomination. The question is, does this prefigure a weakness for a hypothetical Trump ticket in November? Quite a lot of Midwestern states are swing states, although none of the 'big ticket' ones, and it's hard to imagine a scenario where the election comes down to Minnesota or Iowa. And it doesn't necessarily follow that doing well in a primary in that state will translate to doing well in the general election in the same state. Trump won Vermont handily, but there's no way he'd carry it in the general. Conversely, while midwestern Republicans seem to prefer Cruz to Trump by a significant margin, they may well prefer both of them to Hillary or Bernie.

Talking in broader strokes, though, it seems that Trump is doing well in states that are either very conservative (the south) or very progressive (New England). States that have both strong progressive and strong conservative traditions, like Minnesota, Iowa or Texas, reject him. (Although admittedly Texas might be down to Cruz being a local). The only 'mixed' state Trump has done well in is Nevada.
 
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It would be intresting to see if polls swing towards ted cruz. Problem is he still polls poorly in places trump does well.

Perhaps if the other candidates poach states from him a brokered convention stratagey could work.

Also little Marco decided it was a good idea to sit on this chair.

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after last night's performance cruz deserves a smiley

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Sounds good, but if you have to go out of your way to assure people that you'll obey the law, perhaps your sincere promise is not the larger issue.



It's interesting - Trump seems to be particularly weak in the Midwest. Look at this map:
959px-Republican_Party_presidential_primaries_results%2C_2016.svg.png

That's a pretty solid geographical block of non-Trump states, especially if you count Rubio's win in Minnesota.

Is this significant? Kinda. Trump can probably win the primaroes without ever winning a Midwestern state, so in and of itself this pattern doesn't stand between him and the nomination. The question is, does this prefigure a weakness for a hypothetical Trump ticket in November? Quite a lot of Midwestern states are swing states, although none of the 'big ticket' ones, and it's hard to imagine a scenario where the election comes down to Minnesota or Iowa. And it doesn't necessarily follow that doing well in a primary in that state will translate to doing well in the general election in the same state. Trump won Vermont handily, but there's no way he'd carry it in the general. Conversely, while midwestern Republicans seem to prefer Cruz to Trump by a significant margin, they may well prefer both of them to Hillary or Bernie.

Talking in broader strokes, though, it seems that Trump is doing well in states that are either very conservative (the south) or very progressive (New England). States that have both strong progressive and strong conservative traditions, like Minnesota, Iowa or Texas, reject him. (Although admittedly Texas might be down to Cruz being a local). The only 'mixed' state Trump has done well in is Nevada.
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Minnesota and Alaska were Caucuses. It may seem strange, but they tend to be the least democratic of all voting circumstances. Pretty much Trump is winning in Primaries for the most part and losing in Caucuses which are much more swayed by the internal party apparatus.
 
Alright guys, I gotta be a little honest about something.

People are really starting to genuinely fear a Trump Presidency, but what I'd like to know is, why now? Why didn't you spread around anti-Trump memes and anti-Trump Open Letters last summer? Was it because you, ignorantly, wrote it off as a "reality show"? All you ever think about is the Kardashians that of course you just jumped onto the "For entertainment" bandwagon. The rest of us, the ones who don't view things that way, certainly didn't think so.

During the Summer of '15, I really didn't give a damn about Trump's campaign. A few tourists were wearing the hats and drinking out of their Mugs they brought to the Bahamas, but me and my cohorts didn't give a damn. At that point, I still expected Jeb! Bush to become the nominee.

That, my friends, would have been the ideal time for them to "Stop Trump", before people like myself actually took the time to see what the Trump Train was all about, before we decided that, Yes we Can, make America Great Again.

So during my vacation in September, I really had a lot of time to read up on Trump and chose him as my Candidate, and I doubt I am gonna get off. He has too much promise as does Bernie Sanders.

Speaking of, its really sad the Democrats aren't caring. HRC is gonna get pummeled bad by Trump in the General. HRC has a lot more than Benghazi and E-Mails in her closet. The Clintons have an entire record of dirty dealings within an entire State in there. They have murdered Children. When its her Vs Trump in a Debate, she is gonna start hacking and coughing for 45 seconds of live television, wasting everyone's time.

Bernie Sanders, in comparison, has been video taped running to make it onto the podium on time, not punctual, but for an old man, thats plenty of energy! Bernie, actually has a chance to defeat Trump, but nope. As Stupid Mitt Romney was the destined Republican Nominee of '12, and McCain for '08, guess HRC will be the destined nominee of '16. Just too bad a Candidate like Trump appeared.
 
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Alright guys, I gotta be a little honest about something.

People are really starting to genuinely fear a Trump Presidency, but what I'd like to know is, why now? Why didn't you spread around anti-Trump memes and anti-Trump Open Letters last summer? Was it because you, ignorantly, wrote it off as a "reality show"? All you ever think about is the Kardashians that of course you just jumped onto the "For entertainment" bandwagon. The rest of us, the ones who don't view things that way, certainly didn't think so.

During the Summer of '15, I really didn't give a damn about Trump's campaign. A few tourists were wearing the hats and drinking out of their Mugs they brought to the Bahamas, but me and my cohorts didn't give a damn. At that point, I still expected Jeb! Bush to become the nominee.

That, my friends, would have been the ideal time for them to "Stop Trump", before people like myself actually took the time to see what the Trump Train was all about, before we decided that, Yes we Can, make America Great Again.

So during my vacation in September, I really had a lot of time to read up on Trump and chose him as my Candidate, and I doubt I am gonna get off. He has too much promise as does Bernie Sanders.

Speaking of, its really sad the Democrats aren't caring. HRC is gonna get pummeled bad by Trump in the General. HRC has a lot more than Benghazi and E-Mails in her closet. The Clintons have an entire record of dirty dealings within an entire State in there. They have murdered Children. When its her Vs Trump in a Debate, she is gonna start hacking and coughing for 45 seconds of live television, wasting everyone's time.

Bernie Sanders, in comparison, has been video taped running to make it onto the podium on time, not punctual, but for an old man, thats plenty of energy! Bernie, actually has a chance to defeat Trump, but nope. As Stupid Mitt Romney was the destined Republican Nominee of '12, and McCain for '08, guess HRC will be the destined nominee of '16. Just too bad a Candidate like Trump appeared.
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Do you really want an honest answer?

Trump's blustered about running for president every election since 2008, and he's allegedly considered running since 1988. Generally, it's turned out to be a publicity stunt (such as in 2004, when he launched The Apprentice after dispelling rumors). I (and probably most people) thought that this was just another attempt to drum up attention for Trump, since his name is his brand and so he needs to get it everywhere. Personally, I do believe that this started out as a way to gain publicity for him, like the rest.

But then he started pulling ahead. People like you, who ignore how he's driven companies which he runs into bankruptcies, rallied behind him. As he began to gain a following, most of us dismissed it as a fluke. We thought he'd drop out, or be forced out by the establishment working together. We ignored how the establishment was losing the people, and couldn't consolidate to save their lives.

And so now, here we are. An unpredictable blowhard is one of the most likely people to be in charge of our country for the next four years. His slogan bears little connection to reality (when, exactly, was America greater than it is now? Under Reagan? But Reagan used it first.) The Republican establishment is tearing itself apart slowly, and the Democrats don't have to lift a finger.
 
APerson said:
Do you really want an honest answer?

Trump's blustered about running for president every election since 2008, and he's allegedly considered running since 1988. Generally, it's turned out to be a publicity stunt (such as in 2004, when he launched The Apprentice after dispelling rumors). I (and probably most people) thought that this was just another attempt to drum up attention for Trump, since his name is his brand and so he needs to get it everywhere. Personally, I do believe that this started out as a way to gain publicity for him, like the rest.

But then he started pulling ahead. People like you, who ignore how he's driven companies which he runs into bankruptcies, rallied behind him. As he began to gain a following, most of us dismissed it as a fluke. We thought he'd drop out, or be forced out by the establishment working together. We ignored how the establishment was losing the people, and couldn't consolidate to save their lives.

And so now, here we are. An unpredictable blowhard is one of the most likely people to be in charge of our country for the next four years. His slogan bears little connection to reality (when, exactly, was America greater than it is now? Under Reagan? But Reagan used it first.) The Republican establishment is tearing itself apart slowly, and the Democrats don't have to lift a finger.
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But things on the other side make this even more complicated.

Hilary Clinton has been touted as the "inevitable" candidate in this election by the establishment Democratic Party. They are trying hard to smear the last remaining challenge to her, Bernie Sanders, by smearing his supporters as either misogynistic dudebros or young women searching for a boyfriend that don't know it's best for them that Hilary ascends to power. A lot more of the non-corporate and anti-war type Democrats and those that lean a bit more left are beginning to fight back, and are likely to abstain or vote for third parties if Hilary wins the nomination.

A lot of attention has been payed to a potential GOP Split over Donald Trump's selection (or his defeat, whichever happens) but not to the Democrat's growing schism.
 
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A lot of attention has been payed to a potential GOP Split over Donald Trump's selection (or his defeat, whichever happens) but not to the Democrat's growing schism.
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The Democrats are used to being divided. There are a thousand ways to be liberal and only a few ways to be conservative, so the normally unified GOP breaking up into a bickering mess is alarming. Being a bickering mess is just business as usual on the left.
 
Hyperion said:
The Democrats are used to being divided. There are a thousand ways to be liberal and only a few ways to be conservative, so the normally unified GOP breaking up into a bickering mess is alarming. Being a bickering mess is just business as usual on the left.
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In the recent past, I don't think this really holds up. The GOP is the one that has had splinter movements (the Tea Party, Trump 2016) and a diverse voting blocks that don't necessarily care about the same things (Evangelicals versus Libertarians, for instance).

The Democrats, by contrast, are fairly united on most major issues. Liberals generally all agree that healthcare is a right, firm separation of Church and State, pro gay marriage, pro diplomacy (and fairly anti military intervention), pro choice, etc.
 
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