MASSIVE Erection Thread 2016 - Lizard has the advantage. Trump is spiraling towards defeat.

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All discussion of the candidates, updates and results should go here

For example- here's a video of Ted Cruz vying for world domination.


Also Hilary Clinton is a crook and nobody should have sex with her.

Discuss

(Note- The title will change as we get nearer the election, previous titles will be archived in the OP)
 
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fcgh vgcf said:
idk if he had much of a choice seeing as ISIS surging was basically like having an infected arm turn volatile
like what was he going to do, wave a white flag and wait for nato to save him? lol
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He was barrel bombing his own civilians well before ISIS was ever a threat lol
 
fcgh vgcf said:
idk if he had much of a choice seeing as ISIS surging was basically like having an infected arm turn volatile
like what was he going to do, wave a white flag and wait for nato to save him? lol
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The Syrian civil war started because Assad sent in the military to crush pro-democracy protesters. Eventually a bunch of his generals and soldiers got sick of being told to slaughter their own people and started turning on Assad. It really wasn't all that complicated until foreign Jihadists and radicals from the rest of the Muslim world started streaming into Syria to take advantage of the chaos. Which they did.
 
Let's plunge the world into chaos because Assad is a bery bad person!!
The reality is that the middle east is a shithole that the best it can aspire to is military dictatorships that keep the durkas in check. Without them we have endless terrorism and hordes of migrants invading Europe, because they'd rather fight to impose their version of the durka religion than try to get along and stop killing each other.
 
Kokorengo said:
Let's plunge the world into chaos because Assad is a bery bad person!!
The reality is that the middle east is a shithole that the best it can aspire to is military dictatorships that keep the durkas in check. Without them we have endless terrorism and hordes of migrants invading Europe, because they'd rather fight to impose their version of the durka religion than try to get along and stop killing each other.
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Kuwait does a better job in keeping order in check. If you want stability in the Middle East for the long term, you start by kicking Salafist exporter's heads in. Saudi Arabia has been happily exporting their Islamist ideology for over 50 years. Its just been they were more concerned with stopping athiest communism and trying to stamp out Israel for them to piss off the hornet's nest of the west. Neither Trump or Clinton will dare put them in their place 6 feet under.
 
The problem with Syria is we keep thinking that we can remove (undeniably bad) Baathist dictators with military intervention and think that democracy can be installed and it not revert to an Islamist shithole that the Baathists were suppressing the entire time.

Assad is not nice. ISIS is worse.
 
feedtheoctopus said:
Won't be peace in Syria until Assad is dead. People forget that he's the reason the war started to begin with.
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Definitely. But i'm afraid we need to tolerate him for now in order to get ISIS out, after which we can phase him out for a non-Islamist-tied moderate. You forget that many of the rebels sympathize with ISIS/Al-qaeda/whathaveyou or are working with them because Assad is a mutual enemy.

Make Syria actually itself again (as opposed to a mess of militant-controlled enclaves), eliminate the far bigger ISIS problem, then oust the elephant in the room.
 
Legatus Lanius said:
Kuwait does a better job in keeping order in check. If you want stability in the Middle East for the long term, you start by kicking Salafist exporter's heads in. Saudi Arabia has been happily exporting their Islamist ideology for over 50 years. Its just been they were more concerned with stopping athiest communism and trying to stamp out Israel for them to piss off the hornet's nest of the west. Neither Trump or Clinton will dare put them in their place 6 feet under.
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Not sure what all the focus on the Saudis still is. Toppling/killing them would do nothing. That needs to be stated very plainly. If it did do something, it would only make things worse. There is a real reason no one steps up to the plate and takes on the Arabians. It's not because they're cowards, cucks, or unpatriotic. It's because not only would the exportation of Wahhabism not stop, as it is far too deeply ingrained in all of the surrounding regions for that to have any effect anymore (it would have needed to happen fifty years ago to matter) but because the chaos of an Arabian governmental collapse would just push all the Bid Laden-loving fuckers under the surface to the top. Wahhabist strength would increase. ISIS would grow. The problem gets worse.

The Saudi government is anti-Jewish, anti-democratic, anti-American, and anti just about everything else but money. But that's the thing. The Princes can be bought, stalled, and negotiated with through monetary means. The people they are just barely suppressing cannot be.

And the Kingdom is doomed in any case. We should just wait for it to fall, and in the meantime, whoever is president needs to focus on weening America off of foreign oil. Getting America out of that sandy shithole, militarily and economically. If an Islamist government rises to power afterward the US may have to deal with it- if it attacks, but getting blood on our hands, legitimizing insane Wahhabist persecution complexes, wasting soldiers, etc, all on an effort that cannot and will not fix the problem is bizarre and arguably, very exceptional. I get that everyone is still bawwing over 9/11 like it happened yesterday, but a balanced approach is needed here. America cannot just keep declaring war on anyone who had anything to do with 9/11 until it has massacred the entire Middle East and feels satisfied. I have started to notice that the boogeyman changes every five years for some Americans. If we "put them 6 feet under" everyone would just decide that actually, the problem will stop when we destroy (insert regime here). Why? Because they are trying to plug random numbers into a broken equation. Two plus two is just never going to equal five. Destroying various Arab regimes is just not going to solve the problem of international Islamic terror.

It should therefore, not be, the platform of any candidate. This hate-on for Arabia is vexing and unnecessary, but unfortunately seems to be growing.



 
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Definitely. But i'm afraid we need to tolerate him for now in order to get ISIS out, after which we can phase him out for a non-Islamist-tied moderate. You forget that many of the rebels sympathize with ISIS/Al-qaeda/whathaveyou or are working with them because Assad is a mutual enemy.

Make Syria actually itself again (as opposed to a mess of militant-controlled enclaves), eliminate the far bigger ISIS problem, then oust the elephant in the room.
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We are "tolerating" him while he shoots ISIS. We're not bombing him. Once ISIS is thoroughly kicked out of Syria however you can be sure more money and arms are going to flow to the less insane rebel groups and Assad's soldiers are going to start going boom.

As it stands Syria as a state entity is pretty much dead. There is no government. Assad's just another warlord. It's never going back the way it was. Partitioning the country will probably do more for long term peace in the region than trying to unify it.
 
We can't hope to end this war and thus neuteralize extremism in the region or begin sending refuges back until we finalize Daesh's destruction and bring Assad to justice. Problem is, nobody is sure where he is hiding. Word is he fled Alepo on a gunship
 
feedtheoctopus said:
We are "tolerating" him while he shoots ISIS. We're not bombing him. Once ISIS is thoroughly kicked out of Syria however you can be sure more money and arms are going to flow to the less insane rebel groups and Assad's soldiers are going to start going boom.

As it stands Syria as a state entity is pretty much dead. There is no government. Assad's just another warlord. It's never going back the way it was. Partitioning the country will probably do more for long term peace in the region than trying to unify it.
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This is true for a lot of the Middle East. Their borders were left completely retarded and are in desperate need of being redrawn.
 
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