💼 Careercow Mark Waid / William Mark Waid - Comics legend turned laughingstock, SJW lunatic, Dislikes Asians, Sued for Tortious Interference, King Baby, “The Strong Protect The Weak”

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Meyer V Waid - WHO WILL WIN?

  • King Baby Waid

    Votes: 18 8.1%

  • Cough Commander Meyer

    Votes: 205 91.9%
  • Total voters
    223
  • Poll closed .
Is it just me, or is Waid's alliterative name perfect for a super hero?
 
KillThemCrackasBabies said:
Now is this all just a verbose smokescreen, and am I really just incredibly mad and trying to deflect from how mad I am? Maybe! Let's find out how this unfolds and who ends up looking better in the end. History tends to favor a certain approach, though.
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I don't think you're putting up a verbose smokescreen, but I do think you have an incredible lack of self-awareness. You say you're laughing at the people who are getting way too serious about pointless shit, but all you're doing is shutting shit down and being a petulant child throwing the equivalent of tiny temper tantrums.

Here's the thing, I agree with Jim's approach that laughing at speds on the internet doesn't have to have a higher purpose to be worthwhile; Sargon looked like an assclown throughout the whole affair. However, in this situation you're the one attempting to police how people get their lols. You're Sargon, just in the opposite direction where your position seems to be that if you laugh at speds and you're not doing it entirely nihilistically then you're wrong. Do you want people to be completely uninterested in a potential legal confrontation when there are a plethora of lawyers on this site? That's insane. Nobody here is losing their shit like the SJWs did during Gamergate, they're just getting excited about the potential ramifications of the lawsuit and what it could mean for the content of this thread and the comic book landscape as a whole. I don't see the problem with letting people get excited about and interested in things.

Personally, I don't give a damn if this nets D&C thousands of dollars and Mark Waid has to live in exile (although the latter would be nice since he seems like a weirdly bitter person). Now if this lawsuit makes comic industry pros sperg on twitter? Then I'll care.
 
Muscle Bra said:
While I agree with most of what you wrote, my big question is: is Waid an employee of Marvel Comics/Disney and did he hold himself out as one when he contacted Antarctic Press?

As I understand it, Marvel and DC go to great pains to ensure that most of their creators are considered freelancers (i.e. contractors). For the most part, only editors and other folks who work in the front office are actually salaried employees, while most writers and artists are paid page rates to do the work that is assigned to them. Without going into all the details, contractors generally have no say in the policies of the corporate entity for whom they work and are simply paid to do a job, where that job may or may not continue on an ongoing basis.

As I've said before, it's been a long time since I paid attention to Waid but, the last I heard, he was the editor-in-chief or publisher or something of Kaboom Comics (or maybe Boom Comics?) and, as an officer of that company, any statements he makes or actions he takes could well be traced back to that company as a whole. However, if Waid is just a freelancer at Marvel, he would not be permitted to hold himself out as a spokesperson for Marvel and, if he did so when he contacted Antarctic, then he could well be in trouble with the House of Mouse for overstepping his boundaries.
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Waid's actual status as a Contractor or In House Employee doesn't really matter. He is a "Public Employee" of the Corporation. His name is on the front cover of the books they publish under their masthead. And every comic shop and publisher knows 100% who Waid is currently working for. This isn't young Billy from the mailroom having a Twitter spergout. Whichever people he contacted knew unquestionably that they were being contacted by "Marvel Comic's Mark Waid". For purposes of Law and Lawsuits Waid will be viewed in that manner. And not as a wholly independent actor. Add to this that there are some "insider leaks" other than the infamous /4chan/ posting that indicate that the thing that sent C B Cebulski over the edge about Waid was that whatever channel of communication he used with Antarctic Press clearly had "Marvel Comic's Mark Waid" embedded in it. Likely an e-mail signature or his Twitter or Facebook bio.

This entire document is an extremely worthwhile read. https://www.thewaltdisneycompany.com/wp-content/uploads/TWDC-Standards-of-Business-Conduct-1.pdf
But here's the money shot in it. Chapter 5, Page 27, Competition Laws

Competition Laws We expect Cast Members and employees to compete aggressively, but fairly, and to sell our products and services on the basis of quality and merit. Antitrust and competition laws are designed to promote a free and open marketplace. You have a responsibility to comply with these laws wherever you do business and avoid conduct that might suggest a violation. Failing to do so can subject both you and the Company to imprisonment, substantial criminal fines and civil financial liability. Antitrust laws (sometimes called “competition laws” or “unfair trade laws”) prohibit agreements that unreasonably restrict competition. Don’t enter into any agreement or understanding, whether formal or informal, with a competitor, customer or supplier to: • Set prices or price-related terms, also known as “fixing” prices • Refuse to deal with a customer or supplier • Divide territories or customers
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That's from Disney's Standards of Business. Waid is bound by them. Once again Waid's name is on the front of the Disney Product.

KillThemCrackasBabies said:
Fire up them "Autistic" ratings boys! I'm going in;

* Nothing will come of the FTC complaint. Waid will quietly reappear on social media in the coming weeks, my estimation is before the Summer is over

* Meyers will release his comic in a limited capacity, several independents will stock the book and he will see a brief surge in sales from right-wing blogs, though most sales will come via already sold Kickstarter backers. He will refer back to the thousands of backers from the Kickstarter as accumulative sales, and will cite that as the number of "debut sales" when the book drops and refer to himself as a best seller, comparing his sales to whatever also drops that month and using that as an example he "beat the industry" by besting their sales. He will not acknowledge the fact that the KS campaign was spread across several months.

* He will likely not see chain-store sales. He may see one of two branches willing to help, but he will likely not see it put in their systems across the board. He will blame his "blackballing" for it.

* SJW Marvel will proceed for a brief period before wrapping up most series. As this has already started it can be reasonably assumed that by years end, most of the books will have concluded their runs. Meyers, personally, will take credit for this happening, and "Comicsgate" at large will agree.

* Like Waid, none of the rest of the SJW writers will see any repercussions for their actions, and the majority of them will not have left the industry. Little news will be made of the attack on Meyers or his fans.

* A middling success though a success none the same, Meyers will have claimed victory for, technically, publishing a book despite having war declared on him. Not unlike MagicGate, once it becomes obvious that no legal action or PR disasters result from Comicgates, most of the posters here will change their tunes and claim they never expected anything to happen, didn't even think it would happen, and all agree that the entire ordeal was simply about him releasing his own book. Also like MagicGate, occasional and random remarks by posters will tag me in comments referencing how totally infuriated I got all those months ago, but as a whole most people will simply drop the topic and just pretend they weren't that invested in it to begin with. Keeping with the spirit of MagicGate, I will pepper in the occasional joke about how that great big battle against the SJWs that didn't amount to anything.

* A new front in the SJWs will start, probably something music related. Most of the posters involved now will jump into that headfirst, learning nothing, and reacting poorly to any suggestion of suspicion or approaching it with a sense of humor.

Screencap this so when Marvel is sued for thousands and thousands of dollars I can look the fool, just like when Hasbro was publicly disgraced and Jeremy Hambly shot right to YouTube superstardom!
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It's possible. Although I think the FTC complaint will result in some fines. This has gotten just enough attention to have jumped a bit outside of the niche nerd press and make a few small waves in at least the Conservative publications. It's going to be dropped on somebodies desk at the FTC for a review. The fact that Disney is attached means that Disney will wish it to quickly and quietly go away. We won't see a PUBLIC outcome to it. But somebody will get slapped. Disney will likely cooperate, happily pay any fines so long as they aren't too extreme. Just to prove how seriously they take even the whiff of anticompetitive practices to the FTC ("please don't mess with the Fox deal kind sirs!") Internally the Disney legal types will raise Holy Hell with Perlmutter about his pack of uncontrolled degenerate hipsters and pink haired freaks.

Meyers will send his book out to his backers. Probably print plenty of extra to sell online, at cons and through any merchant that wants it. At the numbers sold via Indiegogo if/when he uses the rather obscene crowdfunding return to register and create his own imprint, he can cut a deal directly with Diamond. Which would allow him to largely bypass the pink haired gender confused mafia. The question would be could the 4th(?) issue get enough interest to meet Diamonds minimums? While evil and monopolistic Diamond is remarkably apolitical. They kind of have to be in order to not have their exemptions to anti trust laws and regulations questioned. If Meyers can show the numbers and has the paperwork to show he is a small press publisher Diamond will list his book. Which is probably the main bragging right he is actually looking for in all of this.

I think Waid is going to be quickly gone at Marvel. Not simply for this. There have been rumors that C B Cebulski is really pissed at him from long before this blow up. Waid is a self serving insufferable ass. Everyone in the comics industry has long known this. He has burned a ton of bridges over the years with his insanity. DC being the big one. At this point his status as "industry old man" is just not worth the aggravation to any of the publishers. Why would you want this hot steaming mess of anger management issues and crazy in your bullpen? Yes Waid is a well known old timer with a history of good stories. And if he didn't call so much attention to himself he likely could have done that till he died. (Unsaid thought is Waid is likely a "cheap" old timer due to all of his issues. Marvel doesn't pay for expensive old timers.) At some point somebody in legal or accounting is going to ask "why are we paying this unhinged old timer to write this shit, when we are currently paying this much more famous and beloved old timer to not actually write anything (Chris Clairemont). Why not just let that guy write something? I mean we're paying him either way?"

SJW Marvel is sadly not going away simply because they don't have anything to cheaply replace it with. Most of the Marvel Pink Haired Cum Dumpsters work for food at best. If you wonder how Marvel survives at their current sales levels, it's that their payroll currently amounts to a few bags of Vegan Alpo per month. (Purina Comic Chow! Keeps their coats vibrant and pink!) It's actually kind of hard to drop repercussions on the SJW's as most of their lives are what would be repercussions to anyone else.
 
@KillThemCrackasBabies and everyone responding to these autistic ramblings with autistic ramblings.

This is a site for laughing at and enjoying content. The past 3 pages of this thread have been a mudslide of shit that really isn't doing much more than dragging discussion into more of a deep thoughts mindset than a mindset where people are enjoying engaging content. I was going to toss (yet another) threadban at @KillThemCrackasBabies, but I have to say, everyone else here is participating in this trash as well. Rather than toss you all off the bus, I am going to just lay this warning down right here for you all to soak in. If you feel that you require a threadban because you cannot discuss this content from an angle where it is humorous and entertaining, and you feel that you must argue about whatever the fuck this comicbook bullshit is, then let me know and I will restrict your privs in this thread. Otherwise, have fun and make this place fun for your fellow user.
 
yawning sneasel said:
@KillThemCrackasBabies and everyone responding to these autistic ramblings with autistic ramblings.

This is a site for laughing at and enjoying content. The past 3 pages of this thread have been a mudslide of shit that really isn't doing much more than dragging discussion into more of a deep thoughts mindset than a mindset where people are enjoying engaging content. I was going to toss (yet another) threadban at @KillThemCrackasBabies, but I have to say, everyone else here is participating in this trash as well. Rather than toss you all off the bus, I am going to just lay this warning down right here for you all to soak in. If you feel that you require a threadban because you cannot discuss this content from an angle where it is humorous and entertaining, and you feel that you must argue about whatever the fuck this comicbook bullshit is, then let me know and I will restrict your privs in this thread. Otherwise, have fun and make this place fun for your fellow user.
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Are we allowed to discuss other reasons that Marvel has become a sjw shithole if they are related to Mark Waid in enough ways?
 
Please delete this if it's backseat modding.

There's a #comicsgate thread that's full of ethics in capes and spandex, as well as general comic spergery in CW.

On topic: do we have a clue what his backup Twitter handle is yet? You know he's got one.
 
RodgerDodger said:
Which would allow him to largely bypass the pink haired gender confused mafia. The question would be could the 4th(?) issue get enough interest to meet Diamonds minimums?
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I don't think Jawbreakers was ever intended to be a periodical. If I'm reading the IGG right, it's a one-and-done with some extra crap thrown in to sweeten the pot for $50 backers.
 
You know, one of the things that's always been surreal about any *gate incident in the last few years (Comicsgate, Gamergate, etc) has been just how many people in the opposition have been willing to accidentally their entire careers over it. It's like Waid saw Dan Olson and Bob Chipman's fuck-ups and felt they were something to emulate.
 
Mark Waid memes from D&C and CG spergs:
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Considering how it's obvious something's very cracked in Waid's head (wailing like a baby, smashing his phone on the ground) is he a diversity/disability hire?

And secondly to that, how long will it be because we're reading about Marcella Waid as he inevitably troons out to keep himself relevant after Marvel shitcans him?
 
Jaimas said:
You know, one of the things that's always been surreal about any *gate incident in the last few years (Comicsgate, Gamergate, etc) has been just how many people in the opposition have been willing to accidentally their entire careers over it. It's like Waid saw Dan Olson and Bob Chipman's fuck-ups and felt they were something to emulate.
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This is why I'm interested in what Waid's net worth actually is. He's been getting steady work for over three decades, and people who've built up sometime get more conservative (in their behavior at least, usually) the more they have to protect. At Waid's age, common sense dictates that he'll have at least a few nice things that he doesn't want repo'd to pay punitive damages to some random YouTuber.

...but that's not how he's behaving. If he's part of the bobo lifestyle of so many urban SJWs- squalid yet allegedly trendy, five-dollar coffees and six roommates- then no judgment will mean anything to him. He'll never be able to pay, and access to the SJW parasite network means that he can get a hook-up quickly and easily from a fellow true believer. But that would mean that he's frittered away his entire life on capeshit and being an ideological fashion victim.
 
In a way this might be a good thing for Waid, he can focus on maybe getting a family. Part of his sperging is obviously for attention. Being almost 60 without a wife or children must be very lonely for him. Getting away from comics might help him mature or maybe he’ll stay a lonely sad sperg all his life.

Also some D&C reviews of his latest Captain America comic:
Pre-shitshow:
Post-shitshow:
 
damian said:
In a way this might be a good thing for Waid, he can focus on maybe getting a family. Part of his sperging is obviously for attention. Being almost 60 without a wife or children must be very lonely for him. Getting away from comics might help him mature or maybe he’ll stay a lonely sad sperg all his life.

Also some D&C reviews of his latest Captain America comic:
Pre-shitshow:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=tqFmfo-5HwwPost-shitshow:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=WmxWqYfYoq4
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Not the Waid isn't a hack and cow but using d&c videos to prove points is getting tired. We get it, he has nothing good to say about marvel (in general because he was quite positive about moongirl once) so I'd actually like to see some actual critique from industry pros or reviewers whose opinion carrys some weight outside their vacuum.
 
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