What exactly do people mean and want when they say they want to stop Islam? That's too vague to mean anything tangible. Stop Islamic terror? Islam as a whole? Muslim immigration?
@Internet War Criminal @Male Idiot I really want to hear your ideas
I didn't say I wanted to 'stop Islam'? As far as what I want:
I want the West to stop pretending that Islam is an ideology that can co-exist with us. Individual muslims? Yes, of course they can. I know some. So do you. So does everyone. However, Islam as an ideology is incompatible with Western values. Yes, yes I know about the Crusades. Yes, I know about all of the discoveries
that were stolen from their host countries after Islamic conquest and claimed by Islam.
Look at countries where the majority of the population is Christian, and their forms of government. In the 21st Century, can there be terrible things done by people whose majority of inhabitants are (practicing) Christian? Yes. However, they are few and far in-between, and these things are not done in the name of Christianity. In general, authoritarian governments in those countries try to suppress Christianity, they are not oppressing in its name. Same goes for other countries who are not necessarily rooted in Christianity as much as America, but are still firmly rooted in the Judeo-Christian derived Western Principles like most of Europe.
Now on the other hand, look at countries that are majority Muslim. And look at those whose governments are using Islam as their guiding principle. Would you want to live in
any of them over the West? Forget about living there, would you want any of their governments/morals to take over your own countries? I'm gonna wager that no, you wouldn't.
The vast majority of Muslims worldwide do not condone violence, support terrorism or approve of Salafism/Wahhabism/Shiite equivalents/etc... ideologies. However, a significant portion of the Islamic world holds beliefs, even in the so-called 'moderate majority' that are incompatible with Western civilization. You just need to look at Pew and their many studies to see how hundreds of millions of Muslims hold views that 99% of the Western world would condemn as abhorrent:
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/...ligion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2014/07/01...ddle-east/pg-2014-07-01-islamic-extremism-10/
So you end up with hundreds of millions of Muslims who might not support ISIS materially or want to join, but still believe Sharia should become law of the land, adulteress women should be stoned to death, hands of thieves should be cut and people who abandon Islam or slander Mohammed should be killed. Those are the so-called 'Moderates'.
And you know what? They can believe what they want. And for all I care, short of genocide and other crimes against humanity like that, the can vote themselves the government they want. You see it in Gaza, you saw it in Egypt, we're seeing it in Tunisia, whenever we give them Democracy they immediately vote in terror groups and Islamists and other tyrannical bastards. Fine. Make your bed, then lie in it.
We don't have to accept that shit in the West. If you believe that kind of bullshit, we don't have to let you in. If you live in countries that have terror organizations running amock, we don't have to let you in. We don't have to accommodate your religious beliefs. We don't have to accept endless and endless waves of refugees and give them welfare while they steal, rape and forego all of the laws of the country. And we sure as shit don't have to accept anyone from countries where there's a high likelyhood that they will turn into terrorists.
In 2015, there were 452 suicide bombings against civilians in the world. How many of them were perpetrated by Muslims? 450 confirmed, and the last 2 by people (one Turkey, other Kosovo) who most likely were Muslims but couldn't confirm did it for that. By far and large, Muslims today are the ones who commit terrorism, and a large swath of them are against the West (even if they first and foremost kill their own). We should stop
all Muslim immigration from any country which contains radical elements. I am all for accepting Christian refugees from Syria or Iraq (as long as we can vet they are actually Christians). I am all for accepting Yazide refugees, or Kurds (who are not Islamists). The rest? No way.
As far as Muslim immigration from the rest of the world, we need to seriously vet them. Vet them in depth and make sure that there is no way that they are radicals. Because you don't become a radical while only living in Rakka, Gaza or Islamabad. Today you can be from Brussels, Paris or London and be radicalized.
Oh yeah, and deport all of the refugees in Europe, and build a friggin wall if we have to in order to keep them out. Jail Westerners who help refugees cross over and enter Europe illegally. The West is not gonna be able to help anyone in humanitarian terms if it collapses on itself. There is no reason we should accept A SINGLE refugee when Saudi Arabia & all of the surrounding Arab countries refuse to do so.
As far as Muslim terror, we need to address it head on. ISIS strikes us in Europe? We need to rain death and destruction on them. Punch back 10 times harder. Make it so even the guy who milks goats for ISIS fighters doesn't want to go out of his hovel because he's terrified he's gonna get drone striked into oblivion. Yes, yes, all the while making sure we are respecting the Geneva convention.
By the way, according to the Geneva convention, if a terrorist hides in the middle of a group of civilians, or in a hospital, or anywhere like that, it is a legit target. And we should strike it. Obviously I am not talking about outlandish situations like bombing an hospital with 400 people to smithereens for Ahmed because he shot his AK a couple of times. But our ROE are ridiculous and end up costing more lives. We need a short, total and brutal war in order to end this as quickly as possible. All while respecting international law and the Geneva convention, the West needs to unleash its fury and crush all the Islamists and those who wish to destroy our way of life.
We are at war, and we need to start acting like it.
None of this will happen, even if Trump is elected he's not even gonna manage to build a wall or actually stop any immigration, and we're all fucked.
But you didn't ask me what was gonna happen, just what I wanted.
Edit: Not sure why talking about how to prevent future Brussels-type of attacks is 'off-topic'
