Marathon 2025 - Bungie's new AAAA Extraction shooter

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The original Marathon, especially Infinity, had a lot of Jungian Mystic ideas like the Hero's Journey and the significance of the number 7 and was the peak Aryan Chvd gaming experience and going between Tycho and Durandal missions had you killing Phfor or UESC was supposed to represent the Hero's journey in all possible realities, and the Mjolnir Recon Security Officer 54 just having "Mjolnir" in the name reinforces that connection to Wagnerian idealism. Playing the original games shocked me with how smart it was with Durandal references to esoteric and obscure existentialist philosophers and Carl Jung tier mysticism was only something I thought I would see out of Hidetaka Miyazaki or Hideo Kojima games and I am a massive old school Halo fan.

The sisyphean idea of an endless grind with no end ever with $40 microtransactions in a $40 game is entirely oppositional to the Chvd experience, Fromsoft games being brutally hard but rewarding are also Chvd games laden with mysticism and massively appeal to the Chvd crowd. There is no end or victory for the Chvd and not even a pyrrhic victory like true ending of Bloodborne where you become an infant outer god or the world dies in Dark Souls III, there is no solar energy with neobrutalist flat design with 0 masculine character design and there is only genderless hyperconsumerism to endlessly buy ugly products to get bored of those products and buy new products.

I feel like bunghole wanted to deliberately spit on old Marathon because there is an implicitly esoteric right wing element in the classic Marathon games for a similar reason why these types hated Elden Ring when it dropped.
Good analysis but elden ring is not a chud game by the time you truly learn the lore. Malenia the ‘valkyrie’ is emasculated compared to friede, we have no odinic figures like gael, and radagon is a spit on the face of masculinity because he’s a man who got molested by proxy and doesn’t even have the will to kill himself.
The shattering would have made sense if it was radagon lashing out in a suicidal rage like how griffith sacrificed everyone because he let himself get raped.
It’s a story about systems, power struggles, oppressions, and not about any single thing that occurs in wagnerian chud myth. Godfrey raped a man by proxy and he’s treated as a relatable quirkchungus dad because the writers don’t understand the implications of such an act.
Granted, godrick was a great character that is actually chuddy, but he was wasted in seconds. The characters the story actually revolves around are pathetic. DS3’s final boss was a humanoid personification of all history. Elden ring’s final boss is a big amoeba.
 
Elden Ring's final boss is Miquella, the DLC is quite a bit more important than the base game in terms of conflict, in that you kill the God of Nascency and Love trying to brainwash everyone into loving him so much it overrides all other conflicts.
Havent played it but that’s even worse. Tricky Mick is not a worthy opponent, he’s no Gael.
This is an indictment of the base game if anything..

Also THREAD TAX:
I’ve come to realize that I have a begrudging respect for the artstyle of this shit game not because it’s honest, but that it shows the desire to take, to suffer, and to embark on a hero’s journey in service of the dark knowledge that was gained.
I’m genuinely glad nuMarathon exists because it allows people to see the slop plastic bullshit at its best and still reject it.
 
Havent played it but that’s even worse. Tricky Mick is not a worthy opponent, he’s no Gael.
He's stated in lore to be the most fearsome demigod, and when you fight him, he's mind-controlling his half-brother and using him as a puppet to fight you.
Elden Ring's final boss is Miquella
I was going to correct you, but then I remembered that canonically, Shadow of the Erdtree takes place after the base game.
 
He's stated in lore to be the most fearsome demigod, and when you fight him, he's mind-controlling his half-brother and using him as a puppet to fight you.
Yes, that’s my point exactly. He’s vermin, parasitic, and completely lacks agency in exchange for being an underage homosexual incapable of sacrificing himself or breaking himself for heroics. Who cares if some retarded fromsoft writer says he is fearsome? It can be seen with one’s two eyes that he is not.
 
Yes, that’s my point exactly. He’s vermin, parasitic, and completely lacks agency in exchange for being an underage homosexual incapable of sacrificing himself or breaking himself for heroics. Who cares if some retarded fromsoft writer says he is fearsome? It can be seen with one’s two eyes that he is not.
This is a stupid take, you can be fearsome in multiple ways, not just in battle, Miquella is fearsome in the way he can basically mind control people and turn them into his slaves, that's pretty scary in its own way.

Another way someone can be fearsome is by having a lot of pull with authorities, a lot of influence or a reputation so great that that person's words can ruin someone's life if they wanted to, without even touching them.
Hell, just being rich could achieve the same things.
And that person could be physically weak, wouldn't make them any less of a threat and therefore, fearsome.
 
This is a stupid take, you can be fearsome in multiple ways, not just in battle, Miquella is fearsome in the way he can basically mind control people and turn them into his slaves, that's pretty scary in its own way.

Another way someone can be fearsome is by having a lot of pull with authorities, a lot of influence or a reputation so great that that person's words can ruin someone's life if they wanted to, without even touching them.
Hell, just being rich could achieve the same things.
And that person could be physically weak, wouldn't make them any less of a threat and therefore, fearsome.
You’re describing a politician or a journo or a marxist, not a god or warrior. All the soft power in the world doesn’t make a freak fearsome, it makes them contemptible.
 
They officially released UT2k4 for free like a month or two ago, ive been meaning to check it out. I'm not sure if there is even an online community for it.



I think the last time this happened something like a million copies of ET for the Atari ended up in a Mexican landfill. I really think it’s once in a generation thing.
*New Mexican landfill.
 
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Havent played it but that’s even worse. Tricky Mick is not a worthy opponent, he’s no Gael.
This is an indictment of the base game if anything..
Miquelle is the strongest Empyrean, the strongest demi-god, and the most important non-Marika character in the game, and further empowers himself by undergoing the Alchemic ritual to create true gold/the Rebis that his mother did and this is why he needed Radhan, as he represents the Red Sulfur King like Radagon did for Marika.
This ritual elevated him to Godhood, and would have made him beyond reproach .. but we show up as things are being finalized.

Miquelle's strength is beyond martial prowess, in their semi-mortal body their magical talents would have obliterated us, but much of that was discarded so he could elevate to Godhood, which would have sent his powers through the roof if we didn't show up

To restate the point, Miquelle is so strong and fierce that if we weren't needed for part of the ritual (the battle with his followers is key to the ritual) and thus be in the area to be able to stop him, we would have lost
 
I’m genuinely glad nuMarathon exists because it allows people to see the slop plastic bullshit at its best and still reject it.
The artstyle is divisive, but Bungie didn't do it justice either. The original vision for this game "died" with the old director.

Still mogged by an early access extraction shooter btw
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Miquelle is the strongest Empyrean, the strongest demi-god, and the most important non-Marika character in the game, and further empowers himself by undergoing the Alchemic ritual to create true gold/the Rebis that his mother did and this is why he needed Radhan, as he represents the Red Sulfur King like Radagon did for Marika.
This ritual elevated him to Godhood, and would have made him beyond reproach .. but we show up as things are being finalized.

Miquelle's strength is beyond martial prowess, in their semi-mortal body their magical talents would have obliterated us, but much of that was discarded so he could elevate to Godhood, which would have sent his powers through the roof if we didn't show up

To restate the point, Miquelle is so strong and fierce that if we weren't needed for part of the ritual (the battle with his followers is key to the ritual) and thus be in the area to be able to stop him, we would have lost
Autistic sperging by fromsoft writers about how tricky mick is quick on the dick does not a strong character make. He gets mogged to death by friede, no amount of weird transgender reboose magick can make the manchild mogg.
The artstyle is divisive, but Bungie didn't do it justice either. The original vision for this game "died" with the old director.

Still mogged by an early access extraction shooter btw
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Who’s to say that blatant plagiarism and artistic sloppiness isn’t the soul of this kind of tranny game?
 
Miquelle is the strongest Empyrean, the strongest demi-god, and the most important non-Marika character in the game, and further empowers himself by undergoing the Alchemic ritual to create true gold/the Rebis that his mother did and this is why he needed Radhan, as he represents the Red Sulfur King like Radagon did for Marika.
This ritual elevated him to Godhood, and would have made him beyond reproach .. but we show up as things are being finalized.

Miquelle's strength is beyond martial prowess, in their semi-mortal body their magical talents would have obliterated us, but much of that was discarded so he could elevate to Godhood, which would have sent his powers through the roof if we didn't show up

To restate the point, Miquelle is so strong and fierce that if we weren't needed for part of the ritual (the battle with his followers is key to the ritual) and thus be in the area to be able to stop him, we would have lost
Messmer didn't need a great rune to commit genocide on a whole civilization and get legions of followers through brainwashing and be the truly strongest demigod, which was shown implicitly

His whole point was a foil to Miquella and showing Miquella was just power mad
 

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*snipped much bigger post* To make matters worse, that level of punishment encourages the cheapest and cheesiest of tactics, which feeds back into fights being unfair - because players want to minimise their risk of losing fights, they try to make sure they only engage on their terms. It's why 'some asshole squatting in the bushes' is such a consistent threat, it's a genuinely smart tactic in context.
Your write up is spot on. But I wanted to draw attention to the rat//leech//grub question. This concept has been around for a long time, it's half problem and half design philosophy. Going back as far as Rust I've wondered how you would change this. But it's actually working as intended. It's a comeback/turn about system but it's strictly feast or famine and it favors luck or skill. A naked in Rust with a eoka pistol can down a full health/full kit if their not paying attention. Because of that risk full kit players tend to KoS nakeds with bolt actions. Is that fair? It is, in an extremely punishing way. That's the price of success in these types of games. The successful have the good stuff but have to have either the skill or the luck to keep their earnings. Transversely a retard with no thumbs or a skilled player coming in mid wipe with nothing could WIN IT BIG if they are lucky and catch skilled player off guard or skillfully outplay them. The 'problem' with this system is, in the end, it skewes favorability towards the skilled players as the player count drops. When the skilled outnumber the lucky, this type of system breaks down and stops feeling fun for everyone. Every match will be human aimbots. Skilled players lose their occasional loot pinata and the luck based players get curb stomped. Other games using this design philosophy get away with it because of some other gameplay aspect. Marathon doesn't appear to have baited it's hook like it's peers did. Because people will tolerate this system, just not in this instance.
 
Autistic sperging by fromsoft writers about how tricky mick is quick on the dick does not a strong character make. He gets mogged to death by friede, no amount of weird transgender reboose magick can make the manchild mogg.
Labeling or painting anything to do with Tranny shit to Miquelle is real fag shit, it's bad enough people who like the game do it, but it's retarded when you do it too, Miquelle is never sexualized even by the delusional, mind controlled Mohg, not is he called a women, or worse, a troon.

He's just cursed to never age and has charisma magic
 
Labeling or painting anything to do with Tranny shit to Miquelle is real fag shit, it's bad enough people who like the game do it, but it's retarded when you do it too, Miquelle is never sexualized even by the delusional, mind controlled Mohg, not is he called a women, or worse, a troon.

He's just cursed to never age and has charisma magic
The more observant will realize that Miquella, Messmer, Malenia, and Radagon are all variations on Scandinavian facial features and the Japanese and Asians in general have a fascination with those types like Leon Kennedy is another prime example

Jon Nodtveidt from Dissection, who literally killed a gay refugee for hitting on him, had that sort of androgynous look at a very young age which perverts project their homoerotic desires into and he always was straight as an arrow and later got jacked and was seen kissing women

As a long reddish haired Scandinavian, I can confirm faggots will project their homoerotic desires unto me and men like Bjorn Andressen had to escape to Japan to flee from being groomed by gay men

I always saw Elden Ring as a chud game because its idealization of Scandinavian features in demigods but the beauty of Fromsoft games is its always open to personal interpretations in a similar way a book is.

NuMarathon making Triage a nigger posing like a Davos sponsored genderless fashion model is personally more revolting to me and as a Chvd I would rather have Aryanism than postmodern Andy Whorehole metaironic neobrutalism
 

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