🐱 Manga's First Trans Character Debuted Decades Before Marvel or DC's

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Warning: contains discussions of transphobia

With both Marvel and DC more willing than ever to introduce transgender characters, there have been increasing comparisons to how LGBTQ characters are portrayed in manga. Though it's always tempting to look at popular shonen manga such as Dragon Ball, Naruto, or My Hero Academia and conclude that the medium has far less representation than its western equivalent, that's only taking a narrow view. As a matter of fact, the very first trans manga character debuted in the 1970's, almost two decades before either Marvel or DC's first trans characters.

While it might be tempting to view the emergence of queer characters in western comics as a recent phenomenon, both Marvel and DC had trans characters since at least the mid-1990s. Marvel's first trans character is a minor X-Men supporting character named Jessie Drake who first appeared in 1994's Marvel Comics Presents #150 by Ann Nocenti and Steve Lightle, though she wouldn't come out as trans until one issue later. DC's is a little harder to pin down and largely depends on what is considered a DC Comic. Vertigo had a transgender woman named Wanda premier in 1991's Sandman #32. The first trans character to appear within the main DC Universe though is the Legion of Super-Heroes supporting character Shvaughn Erin who was revealed to be a trans woman in 1992. In contrast, shōjo manga's first trans character premiered all the way back in 1978.

Riyoko Ikeda's Claudine is a tragedy focussing on a young transgender man named Claude living in early 20th century France. Though Claude is part of a wealthy noble family, his life is filled with heartbreak as his gender identity is constantly questioned by those in his life. The story is narrated by Claude's psychiatrist, who also dismisses Claude's identity. Unfortunately, Claude's luck in romance is just as tragic. His first love accepts him but is forced to move away before their romance could progress, his second love was sleeping with both his father and brother, and his final love interest also rejects him.

It is worth mentioning that, though the manga might be well-intentioned, modern readers might certainly find fault with it. Claude's story is truly a tragedy by every definition of the word, and though the manga is clear that the real tragedy is society's refusal to accept Claude, its portrayal of the period's rampant transphobia could potentially be triggering. There is also the issue of the manga's title, which uses Claude's deadname. Despite these aspects though, the short series is surprisingly sympathetic to Claude and shows that he is exactly who he says he is.

While manga might have had a trans character first, it's important not to discount the efforts of Marvel and DC in their portrayal of transgendercharacters. Both companies have had trans characters as a canonical part of their universes for almost thirty years now. Without the weight of an entire studio or company resting on their shoulders, individual comics and manga are often places where creators can afford to put out material that is far ahead of its time. This is how Ikeda was allowed to craft a sympathetic story about the deadly cost of a society hellbent on denying someone's identity. Ultimately, despite their many flaws, the manga industry and American comic companies like Marvel or DC are able to be much more transgressive than most would assume.
 
It is worth mentioning that, though the manga might be well-intentioned, modern readers might certainly find fault with it. Claude's story is truly a tragedy by every definition of the word, and though the manga is clear that the real tragedy is society's refusal to accept Claude, its portrayal of the period's rampant transphobia could potentially be triggering.
Here's one thing I've never understood. Fiction is supposed to be, y'know, fictional. You can write about completely perfect realities and fudge over unnecessary details that aren't relevant to whatever your plot is. You can show the beautiful love story and let it end at the kiss and "then they lived happily ever after" without having to show all of the gritty nonsense that comes with actually maintaining an enduring relationship. You can have your superheroes with awesome world-defying powers, and all without having to explain any of the logical implications (like those pesky morality questions, or how your superpowers usually shit all over the law of entropy/law of conservation of mass/energy, etc), unless they're directly relevant to your plot. It's a perfectly fictional world that you're free to write however you like without having to care about the compromises of an imperfect reality.

So with that in mind: why the fuck do trannies expect any fictional representation that's not either a tragedy or a farce? Like, if you're the author and you want a boy character that 'identifies' (and is unquestioningly treated as) a girl, why wouldn't you just write a girl character from the start? Transgenderism is only a thing in real life because we live in an imperfect world where some people weren't 'assigned the correct gender at birth' or whatever. But fiction is make-believe, and as its author you don't have to write a world like that. And indeed the only reason you would is if, as mentioned before, you were writing a tragedy or a farce with transgenderism as the theme (for maximum woke points). I don't understand what these people are even arguing about.

Anyway, geezerpost over. Get off my lawn.
 
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1943. Public domain as of right now.
 
Funny. I could have sworn this is what Manga fans have been saying for years. That Manga not only beat comics to the punch but it's way more diverse and progressive to boot.
 
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Here's one thing I've never understood. Fiction is supposed to be, y'know, fictional. You can write about completely perfect realities and fudge over unnecessary details that aren't relevant to whatever your plot is. You can show the beautiful love story and let it end at the kiss and "then they lived happily ever after" without having to show all of the gritty nonsense that comes with actually maintaining an enduring relationship. You can have your superheroes with awesome world-defying powers, and all without having to explain any of the logical implications (like those pesky morality questions, or how your superpowers usually shit all over the law of entropy/law of conservation of mass/energy, etc), unless they're directly relevant to your plot. It's a perfectly fictional world that you're free to write however you like without having to care about the compromises of an imperfect reality.

So with that in mind: why the fuck do trannies expect any fictional representation that's not either a tragedy or a farce? Like, if you're the author and you want a boy character that 'identifies' (and is unquestioningly treated as) a girl, why wouldn't you just write a girl character from the start? Transgenderism is only a thing in real life because we live in an imperfect world where some people weren't 'assigned the correct gender at birth' or whatever. But fiction is make-believe, and as its author you don't have to write a world like that. And indeed the only reason you would is if, as mentioned before, you were writing a tragedy or a farce with transgenderism as the theme (for maximum woke points). I don't understand what these people are even arguing about.

Anyway, geezerpost over. Get off my lawn.
Because they want people to pay attention to them. As a transwoman, you're a woman, but different, so people pay attention.
 
I had no idea Manga was a brand. If I copyright it, can I claim royalties for all mangoes sold in my country from domestic retailers?
 
This was published in '78, so I guess Ikeda was trying to ride on Lady Oscar/Berubara's coattails. Oscar was a woman forced to live as a man, but she, at some point, says maybe it'd be better to just assume the role, something she later changes her mind about. Here, the characters actually wants it.

So with that in mind: why the fuck do trannies expect any fictional representation that's not either a tragedy or a farce? Like, if you're the author and you want a boy character that 'identifies' (and is unquestioningly treated as) a girl, why wouldn't you just write a girl character from the start? Transgenderism is only a thing in real life because we live in an imperfect world where some people weren't 'assigned the correct gender at birth' or whatever. But fiction is make-believe, and as its author you don't have to write a world like that. And indeed the only reason you would is if, as mentioned before, you were writing a tragedy or a farce with transgenderism as the theme (for maximum woke points). I don't understand what these people are even arguing about.
Well, first, Ikeda writes Shojo, which is manga for girls, so it has to be tragic.

Second, trannies don't want happy endings, they want validation of their lives being terrible because then they can present themselves as victims.
 
Despite my bitching about the trannies, I actually don't mind transgender characters (and not just as villains, I'm willing to read about troon protagonists) so long as they are well written. However, since they're typically put in stories to appease a diversity quota rather than because they belong in said story, they typically end up extremely badly written.

If there's anyone here who has read that manga, can you tell me if it's actually any good?
 
They are padding the "manga was always like this" narrative where exceptions make the rule. They want to fight western reader resistance as they push more woketrash in Japan
 
What a big pile of "who gives a fuck"

I had no idea Manga was a brand. If I copyright it, can I claim royalties for all mangoes sold in my country from domestic retailers?

I think even dead manga artists and writers will come back to life to kick your ass for it. Hank Hill styled

Even the dead dont approve, lol
 
Riyoko Ikeda's Claudine
A shojo manga is not Anglo troonery.
His first love accepts him but is forced to move away before their romance could progress, his second love was sleeping with both his father and brother, and his final love interest also rejects him.
In favor of an actual man, not a woman pretending to be one.
Claude's story is truly a tragedy by every definition of the word, and though the manga is clear that the real tragedy is society's refusal to accept Claude, its portrayal of the period's rampant transphobia could potentially be triggering.
I love how troon's and their handmaidens love to 'challenge' and 'trigger' others but can't stand anything other than fawning worship to be directed at them.
 
This was published in '78, so I guess Ikeda was trying to ride on Lady Oscar/Berubara's coattails. Oscar was a woman forced to live as a man, but she, at some point, says maybe it'd be better to just assume the role, something she later changes her mind about. Here, the characters actually wants it.

There is a live action Italian film of Lady Oscar too, like legit based on the manga that came out in '79.
 
"ANIMU AND MAGO DID THE TRAN CHARACTER FIRST THEY DID THEM FIRST"

Hey Marvel and DC, why don't you do yourselves and all of us comic fans a favor and clean up your fucking mess from 1996?
 
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