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On a lighter note.
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Khajiit has wares, if you have coin
I could use those duals, but they look fake.
 
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AnotherPleb said:
So what cards from MH3 are completely warping Modern?
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Seems like a pretty balanced set, the only popular new decks that have showed up that thus far might be T1 are Ruby Storm on the back of Ruby Medallion and Ral and Nadu decks. Lots of other cards slotted into other decks, but they mostly are different cards rather then making every deck go rakdos to cast monkey, fury and grief like MH2

In timeless I brewed up a Rakdos Arcanist deck with the good energy cards but I've been too busy to grind ranked to try it out. Probably better as a historic deck anyway, it's basically all historic cards/printings other then fetches.
 
Have people forgot what removal is now? Soon as a strong creature comes out players scream for it to be banned. Can't even use cheap enchantment aura's anymore because they can't use creature removal or a disenchant.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Have people forgot what removal is now? Soon as a strong creature comes out players scream for it to be banned. Can't even use cheap enchantment aura's anymore because they can't use creature removal or a disenchant.
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If you are talking about Nadu..I would say "Just remove" is a poor answer to him because even if you do it is a 2 for 1 automatically.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Have people forgot what removal is now? Soon as a strong creature comes out players scream for it to be banned. Can't even use cheap enchantment aura's anymore because they can't use creature removal or a disenchant.
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But but but the net deck doesn’t have removal so why should I add removal?? I’d have to cut one of my seven piece combo and then I can’t win on turn 20 :(

I’m assuming this is about Nadu, which I can kinda understand, but to me it just means people should be playing pithing needle and blind naming shuko 100% of the time.

Also, I’m surprised how not bad historic is atm, I brewed up a Boros deck based on a draft deck using the new ajani to go wide and deal 2-3 damage per creature ETB and it’s a solid climber in ranked.
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
but to me it just means people should be playing pithing needle and blind naming shuko 100% of the time.
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Needle in every deck isn't an amazing solution either to be honest..and if Needle is the best counter that means you want to run Saga..and well You can get Shuko with Saga so..you can just play Nadu and Needle!
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Have people forgot what removal is now? Soon as a strong creature comes out players scream for it to be banned. Can't even use cheap enchantment aura's anymore because they can't use creature removal or a disenchant.
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I had people flipping out due to a trashy attempt at red control in Standard back in December. It was like none of them could remember that Pyroclasm used to be a thing, and that using cards similar to Pyroclasm was somehow insulting. Their only cope when I asked about all the white sweeps was "Well, those are net decks".
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
If you are talking about Nadu..I would say "Just remove" is a poor answer to him because even if you do it is a 2 for 1 automatically.
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Goes for any strong creature that appears or enchantment/ equipment. Unless it has hexproof or ward than just remove it. Only colour I can't think of right now with decent removal is green which doesn't matter because you rarely see mono coloured decks now. All that tells me is that they were beaten by something too many times. It's like the Commander and Pauper ban lists.
Angry Crustacean said:
I had people flipping out due to a trashy attempt at red control in Standard back in December. It was like none of them could remember that Pyroclasm used to be a thing, and that using cards similar to Pyroclasm was somehow insulting. Their only cope when I asked about all the white sweeps was "Well, those are net decks".
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I rather enjoyed all of the mass removal we had for awhile, but I also like my control decks.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Goes for any strong creature that appears or enchantment/ equipment. Unless it has hexproof or ward than just remove it. Only colour I can't think of right now with decent removal is green which doesn't matter because you rarely see mono coloured decks now. All that tells me is that they were beaten by something too many times. It's like the Commander and Pauper ban lists.
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No?

You know if you target Nadu they get the trigger right? "DUR HUR JUST REMOVE IT" isn't the problem. The basic problem is that at minimum your opponent draws (not really so you can't penalize it with Bowmasters/Sheoldred") a card if you interact with it..the problem gets worse when you realize that the controller could easily draw into protection effects (Counterspell, Tamiyo's Safekeeping, Scam stuff) so even interacting it an opponent that is empty handed can still lead to blow outs because the Nadu trigger.

The only reason that this isn't as gross as Hogaak is that the cards that Nadu combos with are just kind of shitty, where Hogaak had a bunch of cards around it that were playable on their own.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
No?

You know if you target Nadu they get the trigger right? "DUR HUR JUST REMOVE IT" isn't the problem. The basic problem is that at minimum your opponent draws (not really so you can't penalize it with Bowmasters/Sheoldred") a card if you interact with it..the problem gets worse when you realize that the controller could easily draw into protection effects (Counterspell, Tamiyo's Safekeeping, Scam stuff) so even interacting it an opponent that is empty handed can still lead to blow outs because the Nadu trigger.

The only reason that this isn't as gross as Hogaak is that the cards that Nadu combos with are just kind of shitty, where Hogaak had a bunch of cards around it that were playable on their own.
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Oh no! And once it's removed how many triggers will you get after that? Magic players seem to have become as bad as Yugioh players when it comes to counting. It's no wonder CCG's are dying.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Oh no! And once it's removed how many triggers will you get after that? Magic players seem to have become as bad as Yugioh players when it comes to counting. It's no wonder CCG's are dying.
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Not gonnalie, I miss board wiping six times and beating my opponents down with phyrexian hulk. Not a huge fan of needing a faux degree to play a literal game and having to look up a ruling every few minutes.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Oh no! And once it's removed how many triggers will you get after that? Magic players seem to have become as bad as Yugioh players when it comes to counting. It's no wonder CCG's are dying.
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I don't even think it's necessarily a bannable deck but the way you're framing the argument is a straw man because no one is complaining about having to run interaction in Modern. For better or worse Modern is just casting interaction at each other until you stick a card that wins you the game, the problem is that it's replaces itself when you even try to answer it unless you're countering it or hand hating it or edicting it and that's shitty for non-dimir fags.
 
Anonymus Fluhre said:
Oh no! And once it's removed how many triggers will you get after that?
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I dunno..did they draw a second Nadu? Or have access to a Second Nadu because you drew them into a creature tutor effect?

Magic players seem to have become as bad as Yugioh players when it comes to counting. It's no wonder CCG's are dying.
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It seems like you are the one not counting, at best just straight up removing Nadu puts you down a card compared to your opponent, and we are ONLY assuming straight removal spells (Burn is gonna have fun removing Nadu). The "One for One" Removal game doesn't work on Nadu because you are putting your opponent up a card even attempting it, that is the best case scenario, that is not great on it's own, that doesn't cover "It is a really bad idea to even attempt to remove it if there is Nadu and enough creatures to Chord out a Sylvan Safekeeper* to sac a land to protect Nadu."

*This is a thing the deck is doing mainboard, sideboard it gets even worse because "Is there a forest untapped? Yes..well enjoy the potential Veil of Summer Stalker Child"

The only thing that keeps Nadu in check is that Outrider En-Kor and Shuko are kind of trash.

Of course Nadu's actual power is kind of a secondary issue, Nadu should be banned based entirely off the fact that it's combo has a potential but low fizzle rate..so the opponent is incentivized to not scoop even if The Nadu deck goes off..kinda like KCI

answer it unless you're countering it
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Lul Delighted Halfling wants to drag his Hairy Hobbit Nutsack on that idea anyways.
 
This feels like a splinter twin situation, so I think WoTC is more likely to ban springheart nantuko than they are nadu*, and I think it wouldn’t be a bad move if they decide to. It will all depend on the next major modern tournament, as WoTC is unlikely to make any changes without tournament “””data””” to back it up.

*very unlikely that they ban anything, mh3 is still hot and new, and they’re not going to do anything that might fuck that up.
 
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