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macrodegenerate said:
You forgot Haughty Djinn and Tolarian Terror. Cards made to specifically enable the deck. I think the main killer of that archetype was the lack of decent blue and red flashback in the innistrad block. A few cantrips to use with Otherworldly Gaze might have actually fixed the deck.
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I think there's a significant difference between mono blue tempo and prowess. Tolarian Terror wants way too many instants/sorceries in the deck for prowess, that's why all of the sane people playing mono-blue tempo dropped Delver, 12 creatures is actually just too many. Haughty Djinn can maybe do a Crackling Drake impression at the top end but the discount is flavor text because the spells you use in prowess are usually 1 colored mana anyway and you still have to untap with him with a good grip of cards to profit from it. I'd sooner put Wandering Mind in as a 3 drop because at least that will probably replace itself.
 
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This is honestly the only card that I’m interested in snagging from the new universes beyond set, with a shout out to the moon-blue counterflux with extra modes for cancel’s mana cost. I will say, the whole thing does tug a little at that bit of me that was really into Doctor Who back when I started playing magic, and the art is much more enjoyable than the lord of the kangs shit. Amazing what happens when you stay true to the source material.
 
The Doctor Who set is really good I think. My biggest gripe with it (beyond the fact that Doctor Who doesn't fit the fantasy theme of M:TG) is that it seems a bit obvious to me that more love and care went into this set than in Lord of the Rings. They did an incredible job capturing the theme here where with LOTR it was kind of hit or miss. Besides, they didn't try to retcon it to virtue signal (though it's a bit harder to do in this case since they are basing it off a TV show and not a book).
 
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This is honestly the only card that I’m interested in snagging from the new universes beyond set, with a shout out to the moon-blue counterflux with extra modes for cancel’s mana cost. I will say, the whole thing does tug a little at that bit of me that was really into Doctor Who back when I started playing magic, and the art is much more enjoyable than the lord of the kangs shit. Amazing what happens when you stay true to the source material.
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That looks incredibly fun. I'm rusty around these things but that means your Myriad tokens don't disappear either right?

And I'd say the perfect colour combo for the Master at that point of the plot.
 
The dream is people letting you play that commander and keep out a Mirror March or Sneak Attack, also works with unearth type resurrections and you get a token until end of turn stuff. Also Blitz but that's probably less abusable because it's a limited mechanic. Good card in the 99 of Henzie "Toolbox" Torre and a back up effect in Obeka, Brute Chronologist.
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
That looks incredibly fun. I'm rusty around these things but that means your Myriad tokens don't disappear either right?
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Yes, with the caveat that if a token is created with an effect that says "exile this token at end of combat," that will trigger every combat, so once the commander leaves, they'll vanish. Well, or in the case of the linked card, at end of turn - since that's an effect of the creature, it'll trigger every end step. Whereas myriad creates a delayed trigger, which only fires the once.

I like a lot of the Doctor Who designs. Rudy suggests they may be short-printed, though that isn't quite enough to convince me to buy the junk I want, rather than to just wait a few weeks to pick it all up for a couple pennies. I think the design of the decks gives away that they aren't making these to attract new players, though - these mechanics are way too complicated for people who aren't already enfranchised.
 
LolRaccoon said:
The Doctor Who set is really good I think. My biggest gripe with it (beyond the fact that Doctor Who doesn't fit the fantasy theme of M:TG) is that it seems a bit obvious to me that more love and care went into this set than in Lord of the Rings. They did an incredible job capturing the theme here where with LOTR it was kind of hit or miss. Besides, they didn't try to retcon it to virtue signal (though it's a bit harder to do in this case since they are basing it off a TV show and not a book).
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They also did the right thing art wise.

They got the actor's likenesses, I don't give a flying fuck that the LOTR set is "Based off the books" The fact they didn't have the live action actors on the cards for the main cast was outright fucking retarded.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
They also did the right thing art wise.

They got the actor's likenesses, I don't give a flying fuck that the LOTR set is "Based off the books" The fact they didn't have the live action actors on the cards for the main cast was outright fucking retarded.
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My understanding is they had the rights from the Tolkien family which included the animated version but not the WB film versions, blame the kikes at Hasbro
 
Oddjob OTP said:
My understanding is they had the rights from the Tolkien family which included the animated version but not the WB film versions, blame the kikes at Hasbro
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I am blaming everyone, if WOTC doesn't have someone in the room during the discussions for Universes Beyond License then they are retards anyways.
 
Honka Honka Burning Love said:
I am blaming everyone, if WOTC doesn't have someone in the room during the discussions for Universes Beyond License then they are retards anyways.
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The inevitable star wars set is going to happen.

Polyraptor is a fun card. Happened to find one in a binder I had and made a deck around it.
Don't listen to the retards on youtube. Primal vigor is a better card than BLOOD MOON to have in a polyraptor deck because it gives you double polyraptor spawns. Though I understand the point of kneecapping your opponents mana supply.
 
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Polyraptor said:
The inevitable star wars set is going to happen.

Polyraptor is a fun card. Happened to find one in a binder I had and made a deck around it.
Don't listen to the retards on youtube. Primal vigor is a better card than BLOOD MOON to have in a polyraptor deck because it gives you double polyraptor spawns.
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Double infinite is more than infinite yeah, that's just math.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
I think the design of the decks gives away that they aren't making these to attract new players, though - these mechanics are way too complicated for people who aren't already enfranchised.
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Yeah I've got some friends at work - never played MTG but love Dr Who. One of them is picking up a couple of the decks. I want him to come join us and learn how to play but already I'm kind of dreading how to explain suspend (which even experienced players sometimes have trouble with).

That's not even counting all the counters you can have flying around. Almost had a fist fight last week at our table when one guy had like 3 dice piled on to the cards and we were all trying to figure out what they meant.

Anyway new skullbriar up.
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At least the best masters will be getting cards.
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Flexo said:
I'm kind of dreading how to explain suspend
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I find an easy way to do this is to have a big, dumb, obvious object over top of any cards that are currently suspended, to help people understand that they're "on the way." I find there's usually only three parts people get tripped up on:

1 - the suspend counter is removed before the draw step. It rarely matters, but sometimes can.
2 - the suspended spell is still technically 'cast.' So it will trigger all the various historic-matters cards in the decks, as well as any other synergies when applicable.
3 - if the suspended card is a creature, it has haste when it enters. This, for some reason, gets forgotten about a lot.
Flexo said:
That's not even counting all the counters you can have flying around.
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I think infinitokens are at this point just mandatory. It's fucking impossible to manage shit otherwise - you need to have dry-erase cards you can fill in with whatever. As tokens, or to clarify a specific type of counter is what it is - or to have SUSPEND written bigly, so you can just shove it aside and remember everything there is suspended.
 
So what Me is a fucking Neo Skullbriar and the Master is a based token dude, Clearly the best card is Ashad because you can't Mossad the Ashad.
 

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macrodegenerate said:
You forgot Haughty Djinn and Tolarian Terror. Cards made to specifically enable the deck. I think the main killer of that archetype was the lack of decent blue and red flashback in the innistrad block. A few cantrips to use with Otherworldly Gaze might have actually fixed the deck.
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Yeah I've had to finangle something workable for the first turn via vault skirges/god-pharoah + strike it rich since I don't really like going offensive with swiftspear as a first move, also flying + lifelink on turn 1 using any mana + 2 life is fucking awesome. Also yeah, delver and prowess don't mix, prowess needs constant creatures and instant/sorcery recursion (or at last casting more than one spell per card you draw) and ironically having enough spells to proc delver means you're going to have a weirdly tough time drawing creatures.

Maybe it could work by using creature tutors?
 
derpherp2 said:
Yeah I've had to finangle something workable for the first turn via vault skirges/god-pharoah + strike it rich since I don't really like going offensive with swiftspear as a first move, also flying + lifelink on turn 1 using any mana + 2 life is fucking awesome. Also yeah, delver and prowess don't mix, prowess needs constant creatures and instant/sorcery recursion (or at last casting more than one spell per card you draw) and ironically having enough spells to proc delver means you're going to have a weirdly tough time drawing creatures.

Maybe it could work by using creature tutors?
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I assume historic? I think the best model for prowess in historic is probably Izzet Wizards because the wizard tribal spells are great. If I recall correctly the modern prowess deck is boros but it runs a bunch of stuff not on arena. Pioneer/Explorer is kind of wild west in that you can run izzet or white + pretty much any color but Boros w/ Feather is probably the most popular. I don't think I'd run any 1 drop under any circumstance in a prowess deck with only 1 toughness in historic/modern/eternals, you are just asking to be bowmaster'd at that point.

Probably the most interesting creature tutor for a prowess deck is March of Burgeoning Life. It is an absolutely a terrible card in general but It's a fun idea if you need multiple copies of a one or two drop. I know toxic decks in standard were running it for a bit to get multiple Venerated Rotpriests out to speed up their combo kills. I could see it being good grabbing extra leolin lightscribes or just using it as a "protection" spell or to get another dreadhorde arcanist to abuse a filled graveyard
 
Morethanabitfoolish said:
Unlike God or Deity which are fine to stay in.
Or that recent set where they parodied the Norse pantheon. Or Egyptian gods. Or Japanese mythology
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Somebody needs to hammer Rosewater about how black being the color of evil / death is racist. I wanna see the faggot break the color pie more.
 
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