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Dunsparce said:
I lucked out and made my money back with the set box I got for the set on launch day. Got a borderless ancient copper dragon, all but one of the planeswalkers, a normal Ancient Bronze Dragon, a bunch of the dual-lands, and a Displacer Kitten.
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I only played in a draft of it, but I did well - archivist promo (pringle as fuck but whatever), one of the dual lands, a kitten, and plenty of other goodies that paid for my entry fee. But some of the other folks at the table, who wound up with far better decks than did I, pulled absolutely nothing of value whatsoever from their base packs or the prize packs. Absolute gamble.
Retink said:
I feel like it will be closer to Aether/Kaladesh/Battlebond which had a lot of FUD that kept it low for a little while and then it saw a big spike for sealed product. It just doesn't make any sense that it's 80-90$ a box for set and draft boxes.
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Well, the kaladesh-aether pair have lottery cards, and the fastlands are always a safe bet for holding some value. Fatal Push being a $4 uncommon isn't too shabby, either. Battlebond though - lots of cards that probably won't see reprints, lots of great stuff for cross-format goodness, and those duals - tons of value baked right in. I keep delaying trying to sell my foil True Name Nemesis, which at one point was $200 before it fell out of play in the eternals.

The dual lands and the dragons will be a safe bet that the set's value inches up over the years, at least until the duals get reprinted somewhere else. But I still wouldn't expect it to be a safe product in the way that the first set was - or even in the way that something like New Capenna is, purely for the triomes (and the fact that the list generally increases set booster EV).
 
I don't really keep up with MTG's story much but is anyone else mildly afraid of what they're doing in Dominaria United, and what they might be doing with it and Brothers' War? It's looking like there's potential for time travel shenanigans that end up rewriting history, according to some speculation.
 
Rich Evans Ayypologist said:
Well, the kaladesh-aether pair have lottery cards, and the fastlands are always a safe bet for holding some value. Fatal Push being a $4 uncommon isn't too shabby, either. Battlebond though - lots of cards that probably won't see reprints, lots of great stuff for cross-format goodness, and those duals - tons of value baked right in. I keep delaying trying to sell my foil True Name Nemesis, which at one point was $200 before it fell out of play in the eternals.

The dual lands and the dragons will be a safe bet that the set's value inches up over the years, at least until the duals get reprinted somewhere else. But I still wouldn't expect it to be a safe product in the way that the first set was - or even in the way that something like New Capenna is, purely for the triomes (and the fact that the list generally increases set booster EV).
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To be fair, Baldur's Gate has Herald's Horn which is an uncommon that's 8-10$ in its regular version. Grieves and Clamp are still up there in price, and there are a few other uncommons in the set worth a few dollars.

I'm not saying Baldur's Gate cards will go up in value, I just think at under 90$ a box it's mispriced by the market due to fear and I think sealed product will correct sharply when the supply is found to be smaller than expected.
 
Danny.exe said:
I don't really keep up with MTG's story much but is anyone else mildly afraid of what they're doing in Dominaria United, and what they might be doing with it and Brothers' War? It's looking like there's potential for time travel shenanigans that end up rewriting history, according to some speculation.
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They've announced it's a Four set story, ending with the currently to Codenamed "Marathon" and Marathon "Epilogue" that's according to unreliable marketer Maro, is a product unlike any they've done before. I'm guessing a miniMasters like product.

We have MAJOR spoilers for United already:

-It's the start of a Phyrexian invasion
-Ajani gets compleated
-Ajani kills Jaya


Almost certainly someone(s) are going back in time. Karn and Teferi are obvious candidates, Jodah is descended from Urza and is featured repeatedly in promo pictures. The set after is probably a return to present Dominaria, and Marathon is probably Attack on New Phyrexia.

I'm whole heatedly expecting the New Phyrexians to get stomped by the Gatewatch. Previous Dominaria's Karn was digging up the Sylex to blow up the entire plane from the core, which is a monumentally bad idea, and I suspect the time travel is to get the Sylex working or learn how to use it. The Phyrexians are the only big bad they have left, and the last 6 years has been systematically destroying their villains to get characters to sell to Hollywood. I'm betting New Phyrexia is destroyed, everyone but Urabrask is killed(who doesn't go on to make new Phyrexians), Karn dies doing it but doesn't fuck the multiverse with it this time, and everyone but one compleated Walker gets decompleated(Koth)
 
Oddjob OTP said:
I'm sort of surprised that Displacer Kitten is only 15 dollars, that card is crazy in eternal formats and even can protect itself from removal with 1 mana instants not to mention being a solid value card in any blue blink, superfriends, or spells matter deck in EDH. Like 4 mana is a lot in legacy/vintage and maybe modern but it's not crazy as a 1 or 2 of.
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I think it is mostly due to not having a great line up against the top beaters of the Meta-game, especially Jeskai control and Death + Taxes who both have main deck hosers for extra card Draw.
 
Retink said:
To be fair, Baldur's Gate has Herald's Horn which is an uncommon that's 8-10$ in its regular version. Grieves and Clamp are still up there in price, and there are a few other uncommons in the set worth a few dollars.
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All three of those are from the commander products. They can appear in set boosters, but they appear at vastly reduced rates compared to uncommons in the set proper.
 
Anyone got any thoughts on the inclusion of the kamigawa commander precons in the anniversary secret lair? Or on it in general? I’m surprised they’re throwing in two commander decks that were from like four sets ago.
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
Anyone got any thoughts on the inclusion of the kamigawa commander precons in the anniversary secret lair? Or on it in general? I’m surprised they’re throwing in two commander decks that were from like four sets ago.
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A filler for an otherwise lack luster product

I own both precon commander decks included btw, neither are particularly good even by precon standards.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
A filler for an otherwise lack luster product

I own both precon commander decks included btw, neither are particularly good even by precon standards.
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Guess that makes sense, though I don’t see why they bothered, unless they over ordered them. The mystery booster box makes the drop worth getting if you’re interested. Guess they need to hedge “value” somewhere.

I agree on their functionality being horrible, even by Precon standards. I picked up the vehicles one, and then was pleasantly surprised that Blastoise was actually a good card in legacy.
 
Logistical Nightmare said:
The mystery booster box makes the drop worth getting if you’re interested. Guess they need to hedge “value” somewhere.

I agree on their functionality being horrible, even by Precon standards. I picked up the vehicles one, and then was pleasantly surprised that Blastoise was actually a good card in legacy.
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Well, the mystery booster makes sense either if you want to draft it or want to resell it down the line sealed, but otherwise... eh. I got two of those suckers when they were $100 and it was absolutely banger value at that price point, but you're basically talking about a $40 secret lair card suite with a few decent picks, ~$60 of precons, and then a $160 mystery box.

The Kamigawa precons have some awesome card design, but the reprint equity seems to have gotten shaky. Don't forget that the red-green one has an extra land slot instead of the planeswalker it was supposed to, if memory serves. But the trend carried on into Capenna commander precons - some of my absolute favorite designs for commanders, all-around, that play with the uniqueness of the format in creative ways rather than the shitheaps that were free spells or eminence. But the decks aren't even really worth $30 besides.
 
Kujo Jotaro said:
A filler for an otherwise lack luster product

I own both precon commander decks included btw, neither are particularly good even by precon standards.
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I beg to differ on the vehicle one, if you swap out the main commander for Shorikai, it plays so much better. Wonder why it wasn't the commander in the first place, but oh well.

Oddjob OTP said:
Them throwing in those precons is funny because one of the 4 precon commanders is already banned in commander.
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No shit? Which one?
 
Reaper King said:
I beg to differ on the vehicle one, if you swap out the main commander for Shorikai, it plays so much better. Wonder why it wasn't the commander in the first place, but oh well.


No shit? Which one?
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I misremembered it as a commander thing and not a duel commander thing so it's not actually important because no one plays that. Shorikai was banned (as commander only) because people basically just played him from the command zone as a card draw artifact while they played 100 card singleton azorius control.

 
So... why did WotC make alchemy when they went and literally made Hearthstone anyway??

(I'm also curious if this is what Luke has been working on.)
 
I managed to get a hold of a bunch of weird but interesting older cards. It includes all three of the 0 cost 0/1 Kobolds, all three of the non-silver bordered creatures with the Eye creature type, and Mold Demon from Legends(it's a pretty bad card but it was the only creature listed as the Fungus creature type in Oracle I was missing to complete my Fungus tribe collection)
 
Dunsparce said:
I managed to get a hold of a bunch of weird but interesting older cards. It includes all three of the 0 cost 0/1 Kobolds, all three of the non-silver bordered creatures with the Eye creature type, and Mold Demon from Legends(it's a pretty bad card but it was the only creature listed as the Fungus creature type in Oracle I was missing to complete my Fungus tribe collection)
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floral spuzzem goes good in that "I got a bunch of junk" deck
 
Dunsparce said:
I managed to get a hold of a bunch of weird but interesting older cards. It includes all three of the 0 cost 0/1 Kobolds, all three of the non-silver bordered creatures with the Eye creature type, and Mold Demon from Legends(it's a pretty bad card but it was the only creature listed as the Fungus creature type in Oracle I was missing to complete my Fungus tribe collection)
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Build a unique vintage cube, not as in the vintage format but as in using rather old school cards such as those. You can build three cube boxes and mark sleeves with sharpie dots to re-sort after so you're not limited to one of each card. Old sets have a low enough power level to be a lot of fun with minor variation and you can alter the sets heavily, much more than just trying to optimize power in new set cubes.
 
Following the lore is retarded. Spend that time watching classic cinema or read a fucking book
The ONLY time when MTG is actually GOOD
The first two weeks after a set drops before the meta is sealed again, and only if you go to a actual tourney using a deck you didn't copy
The first month after a set drops doing drafts

Commander is RETARDED TRASH
Standard after two weeks is SOLVED META RETARDED RNG TRASH

fight me
 
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