US MAGA Diehards Melt Down Over Trump’s Pro-Vax Push

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MAGA Diehards Melt Down Over Trump’s Pro-Vax Push​

Anger and confusion reign as Trump endorses vaccines many followers believe are poison


In the crisscrossed, Q-addled conspiracy world where Donald Trump is held up as America’s great savior, and covid-19 vaccines are denounced as part of a poisonous plot to control the world, the former president’s own vaccination status — Trump privately got jabbed before departing the White House — has been an inconvenient truth.

This contradiction shot to the surface again this week when the disgraced ex-president, in the midst of an arena tour with disgraced ex-Fox News personality Bill O’Reilly, told the crowd he’d gotten his booster shot.

When some audience members booed, Trump chastised his critics. He touted the covid shots as a key part of his administration’s legacy: “We did something that was historic,” he said. “We got a vaccine done.” The twice-impeached Trump then touted the millions of lives saved around the world by the jabs. “Take credit for it,” he told his followers. “Don’t let them take it away, don’t take it away from ourselves. You’re playing right into their hands.”

In fairness to the boo birds, the pro-booster message was an about-face for Trump, for whom consistency has never been a virtue. Over the summer he dismissed the notion of a third jab as “a money-making operation for Pfizer.” This message vibed with the anti-vax fever swamps, which have long decried Big Pharma for raking in profits by pushing vaccines that (they believe against all evidence) poison patients, instead of protecting them.

As the president’s new, unabashed booster endorsement rippled out across right-wing social media, it was met with an combustible mix of anger, confusion, contorted excuses, and denial so pure it’s as if the former president had never uttered a word.
For a sign of just how severely Trump wrong-footed himself with his base by endorsing boosters, look no further than the editorial cartoonist Ben Garrison. The doodler’s devotion to the 45th president has been slavish, but Garrison’s opposition to the vaccine has also been stalwart. His latest cartoon opus shows Trump riding aboard on the “Big Pharma Vaccine Bandwagon” as he’s booed by the MAGA-hatted masses.

On the social media app Telegram, Ron Watkins — whom many believe role-played “Q” in the QAnon conspiracy that held up Trump as America’s heaven-sent savior in the battle against satanic Democrats — sent out a message on the day of Trump’s comments. Watkins blasted “the insidious global campaign to use poisonous injections to ‘save’ every living man woman, woman [and] child.” Watkins didn’t respond to Trump directly, but later urged the “VF” (or Vaccine Free community) to “stand strong,” “never fear,” and “never comply.” Two days later, Watkins was back to unvarnished anti-vax hysteria blasting jabs and boosters as “Subscription Suicide Shots.”

Lin Wood, the high-profile, right-wing attorney who was a central player in the farcical legal campaign to overturn the results of the 2020 election, also took to Telegram after Trump spoke. Wood, who has touted the QAnon worldview and calls himself a “public advocate against” covid jabs, told his followers to hold their fire on Trump for “recommending the ‘vaccine’.” Wood called covid “a planned bioweapon” and cautioned patience: “I believe We The People should wait until ALL the facts are known before passing judgment on the President’s wartime strategy and the tactics designed to achieve victory.” (Wood’s appeal for patience fits a pattern. Anons have long overlooked facts that didn’t fit their worldview with calls to trust a long term “plan,” whose logic cannot always be discerned in the moment.) Later Wood took to Telegram, decrying his trolls: “Looks like I stirred up a hornet’s nest… Hornets must not like the TRUTH!!!” He again defended Trump: “You don’t have to agree with every statement President Trump makes or position he takes…. Judge the entire body of President Trump’s world as president… He loves America, freedom, and We the People.”

General Michael Flynn, the Trump’s pardoned former national security adviser, was on Telegram on the day before the former president’s remarks opining that: “The vaccine doesn’t appear to work to prevent this covid madness, it appears to be causing it.” Flynn seemed to ignore Trump’s booster endorsement entirely. By the next day he’d posted a link to “news” item alleging Bill Gates and Tony Fauci had been “charged with genocide” in a filing before the International Criminal Court.

Larry Cook — a top anti-vaxxer who once rivaled Robert Kennedy Jr. in his online reach before getting kicked off Facebook — runs the “Stop Mandatory Vaccination” online community. (Rolling Stone profiled Cook as part of this examination of the crossover between the anti-vax and Q Communities). A QAnon adherent and longtime Trump booster, Cook describes the vaccines as “experimental poisons.” He rails on his “Covid-19 Refusers” site that the “Deep State” seeks to “destroy our children through vaccination” as part of an effort to “usher in a one world government and police state for total Luciferian domination of every Child of God.” He took no notice of Trump’s vaccine endorsement — and instead used Telegram to promote a “powerful zeolite detox” spray that’s sold through his website.

While MAGA and anti-vax leaders tried to excuse, dismiss or ignore the former president’s booster boosting, some in the rank-and-file of the far-right movement weren’t ready to forgive and forget, instead training their fire directly at the 45th president.

A message posted to a popular Telegram channel dedicated to “controversial media” and “uncensored views” read: “How quickly ‘Trumpers’ and liberal-conservatives forget that this entire COVID debacle, including vaccines and mass vaccination, was initiated and promoted under Donald Trump and the Republican Party’s watch.”

The post continued by arguing that Trump and the GOP don’t occupy the “moral high ground” on Covid and should not be trusted anymore than Biden and the Democrats: “Democrats are corrupt. Republicans are corrupt,” the post reads. “If you’re still on that merry-go-round then time to wake up and join us over here where TRUTH and FREEDOM is prioritised[sic] over party politics.”

This sentiment was echoed by InfoWars host Alex Jones who used his platform to blast Trump for abandoning the fight of the anti-vaxxers. “Hell, we’re out here fighting Bill Gates and Fauci and Biden,” Jones said with disbelief: “And now we’ve got Trump on their team!”

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[bippu_as_fuck_ls400]

They must be pushing this hard because two relatives mentioned it to me this morning. It's like they never heard that Trump touts the vaccine because of Operation Warp Speed, something he takes credit for.

 

[Pentex]

I'm not sure why. Operation Warp Speed was a policy of Trumpist fascism...until January 21st, when it was morphed into an essential, life-saving vaccine that must be forced on the public wherever possible.

 

[Chilson]

More media cherry picking and conflating pro vaccine with pro mandate to try and dissuade conservatives from voting for him in 2024. I don't like the vaccines and dislike that Trump supported them, but he is still anti-mandate which is the larger issue at hand in my mind and something I wholeheartedly support.

Its all so tiresome.

 

[Mal0]

Genuine question, why are so many people against Trump promoting the vaccine? Trump was the one that kickstarted the mass production and rushed the approval process, right? I still remember seeing democrats saying they would never trust such an untrustworthy and rushed vaccine, and hearing stories of people lying to get their vaccine early.

Now that it's the other guy in power, those that wanted it no longer want it and those that were against it worship it. Pick a side , don't play identity politics.

 

[Reverend]

They all forgot the big thing that Trump stated loud and proudly "Getting the vaccine is a suggestion, a choice, and completely voluntary"

Nowhere did he ever state he was going to MANDATE and shove it down people's throats like the Biden Regime has done.

The message is completely different and the left is pouncing all over this. Which makes this shitstorm even more hilarious.

 

[incelistan]

Not really seeing much of a 'meltdown' there. Their examples are mostly people ignoring or disagreeing with Trump's statements. The Garrison is a reference to Trump having been booed when he talks about the vaccine, it isn't necessarily 'turning against' Trump any more than the booing Trump supporters at Trump rallies were anti-Trump.

 

[Livecorpse]

Genuine question, why are so many people against Trump promoting the vaccine? Trump was the one that kickstarted the mass production and rushed the approval process, right? I still remember seeing democrats saying they would never trust such an untrustworthy and rushed vaccine, and hearing stories of people lying to get their vaccine early.

Now that it's the other guy in power, those that wanted it no longer want it and those that were against it worship it. Pick a side , don't play identity politics.

Biden and the Dems have pushed too hard and poisoned the well. People still remember in 2020 it was "TRUMP'S RUSHED POISON SHOT" then as soon as Biden took office it was a divine gift from SCIENCE and it's your PATRIOTIC DUTY to get it and if you don't you're LITERALLY KILLING PEOPLE.

 

[LurkTrawl]

Anyone who is anti-mandate who gets pissed at Trump over this is a mental midget who deserves the frustration and anger they're currently experiencing due to their subnormal intellect being incapable of separating the concepts of being pro/anti jab and pro/anti mandate.

He's staunchly anti-mandate and pro-vax, just as he has been since day one. This isn't news.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Anyone who is anti-mandate who gets pissed at Trump over this is a mental midget who deserves the frustration and anger they're currently experiencing due to their subnormal intellect being incapable of separating the concepts of being pro/anti jab and pro/anti mandate.

He's staunchly anti-mandate and pro-vax, just as he has been since day one. This isn't news.

It isn’t really news, but the media never lets an opportunity go to waste where they can sow more division. Honestly, if people can just be united on being anti-mandate, that’s where more can come together. The vaccine debate on both sides is pretty much a super autistic debate by this point, so it’s better to focus on something that’s less divisive.

 

[LurkTrawl]

It isn’t really news, but the media never lets an opportunity go to waste where they can sow more division. Honestly, if people can just be united on being anti-mandate, that’s where more can come together. The vaccine debate on both sides is pretty much a super autistic debate by this point, so it’s better to focus on something that’s less divisive.

I wouldn't say that the "debate" is autistic in and of itself, but yes being anti-mandate is much more pertinent at the moment than whether or not the things work (they don't).

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

Though there do seem to be some diehard anti-vaxxers upset at Trump, I think it's being blown out of proportion as a divide & conquer tactic. Liberals always seize on such opportunities, and it tends to be pretty successful.

 

[JambledUpWords]

I wouldn't say that the "debate" is autistic in and of itself, but yes being anti-mandate is much more pertinent at the moment than whether or not the things work (they don't).

I just think the debate is autistic because it has reached the point where it’s a purity test for both sides. One where if you do get the vaccine, the anti-vaccine camp views you as loving everything Big Pharma does and being in the same group that wants more lockdowns; while the pro-vaccine camp just sees those against the vaccine as uneducated hillbillies looking to bring back diseases like measles. The rabid end to both sides is getting ridiculous.

 

[LurkTrawl]

The rabid end to both sides is getting ridiculous.

Part of the problem, no offense, is that people refer to it as a binary even when discussing how ludicrous it is that it's binary like you just did in your post.

There's no "both sides". I try to elaborate when I catch myself doing it and I'm trying to make it a point when I can that when people play into it, myself included, it's playing into the narrative(s) that MSM and politicians want and in turn harming what could otherwise be intelligent discussion on the topic whatever that topic may be.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Part of the problem, no offense, is that people refer to it as a binary even when discussing how ludicrous it is that it's binary like you just did in your post.

There's no "both sides". I try to elaborate when I catch myself doing it and I'm trying to make it a point when I can that when people play into it, myself included, it's playing into the narrative(s) that MSM and politicians want and in turn harming what could otherwise be intelligent discussion on the topic whatever that topic may be.

I never said it was binary, it’s just that it has become very binary over time.

 

[More AWS-8Q Than You]

Anyone who is anti-mandate who gets pissed at Trump over this is a mental midget who deserves the frustration and anger they're currently experiencing due to their subnormal intellect being incapable of separating the concepts of being pro/anti jab and pro/anti mandate.

He's staunchly anti-mandate and pro-vax, just as he has been since day one. This isn't news.

I just hate this shit because it increase the chances that the Short Bus Squad will rally from their safe space threads and come shit up A&N with their retarded bullshit. Otherwise, it shouldn't surprise people that people whose career is based around outrage find something to be outraged about. Even if it's stupid and swallowing the media narrative whole.

Imagine believing mainstream journalists in 2021.

 

[Slimy Time]

They haven't been paying attention then. Operation Warpspeed...

 

[Quijibo69]

Same old shit, driffent old white rich asshole shiting it out.

 

[LurkTrawl]

I never said it was binary, it’s just that it has become very binary over time.

Just saying, the "both sides" language plays into that, to put it more concisely.

I just hate this shit because it increase the chances that the Short Bus Squad will rally from their safe space threads and come shit up A&N with their retarded bullshit. Otherwise, it shouldn't surprise people that people whose career is based around outrage find something to be outraged about. Even if it's stupid and swallowing the media narrative whole.

Imagine believing mainstream journalists in 2021.

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[JambledUpWords]

Just saying, the "both sides" language plays into that, to put it more concisely.

How was I supposed to word it then? I’m not going to make a blogpost discussing every possible way this can be interpreted, which is why I’m mainly focused on the extremely pro and anti sides, as while they are a minority, they are the least likely to budge and are both prominent online.