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Supporters of President Donald Trump attend a pro-Trump march on Nov. 14 in Washington. | Jacquelyn Martin/AP Photo
MAGA figureheads and pro-Trump activists are vowing to excommunicate Republicans who vigorously oppose the doomed effort to keep President Donald Trump in power.
The threats have played out in recent days with Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, who was once seen as a possible ally in Trump’s efforts to overturn President-elect Joe Biden’s win in the swing state. But Raffensperger has consistently refused to validate Trump’s baseless voter fraud claims, and on Saturday, he bluntly told the president the rigged-election theories were simply wrong. After a recording of the Saturday call leaked to the press, the MAGA world erupted with incandescent range.
“A national security threat,” proclaimed Charlie Kirk, MAGA youth leader and Turning Point USA co-founder. “Brad Raffensperger should immediately be investigated.”
In the coming days, that MAGA revenge complex could target everyone from low-level members of Congress to Vice President Mike Pence, as Congress meets on Jan. 6 to formally certify Biden’s victory. “Republicans,” Trump warned on Twitter, “NEVER FORGET!” speaking to lawmakers who have said they will not oppose Biden’s certification. And Trump allies are plotting to fund potential pro-MAGA primary challengers to oust those disloyal Republicans.
“We’ll put some money behind” trying to oust these Republicans, said Alex Bruesewitz, one of the organizers of Stop the Steal, an organization linked to high-profile MAGA personalities that is helping organize a major Jan. 6 pro-Trump rally in Washington.
The swift move to vengeance offers a preview of how Trump and his MAGA community plan to reshape the GOP in the coming months — creating Trump loyalty tests for Republicans, then working to evict anyone who doesn’t fall in line. The goal is to identify those who are most worthy of inheriting the MAGA base with Trump out of office. But the result may be that no one except Trump can rally the MAGA coalition.
“I think that Trump and his supporters in the base, or his supporters in the Republican Party, are going to continue to be a big part of the party for the foreseeable future, including in 2022,” said Alex Conant, a GOP political consultant and the former communications director for Sen. Marco Rubio’s 2016 presidential campaign. “Most congressmen don't wake up in the morning worried about their general election. They worry about their primary.”
At the moment, Trump is focused on eviscerating Raffensperger, who has rebuffed Trump’s attempts to subvert the Georgia election results — and so, too, is his base.
While Trump’s allies launched a normal fusillade of personal attacks against Raffensperger — former House Speaker and Trump ally Newt Gingrich called him “anti-Republican” — they also called for criminal charges. Some suggested it had been illegal for the call to be recorded, even though Georgia law only requires one party in a conversation to consent to an audio recording. Others went further.
“Traitors in our midst,” tweeted Chanel Rion, White House correspondent at the pro-Trump outlet OAN, along with the hashtag “#InvestigateRaffensperger.”
Next, MAGA attention will focus on Capitol Hill, where Congress will meet on Jan. 6 in a joint session to formally certify November’s presidential election. Pence will oversee the proceedings as vice president. Historically, the gathering is an afterthought, a noncontroversial rubber stamp on an already settled outcome.
But in the Trump era, the president, scores of Republicans and throngs of his supporters are insisting that lawmakers should refuse to sign off on the results, incorrectly arguing that the election was rigged.
Trump-supporting entities are trying to concoct novel constitutional powers that Pence could wield at the last minute from his largely ministerial perch, which mostly involves opening the envelopes with each state’s Electoral College votes, and then handing them to a secretary for recording. Alexander Macris, a video game writer who became known for his role in Gamergate, the online harassment campaign targeting women, suggested in a viral essay that Pence could re-interpret the 1877 Electoral Count Act in a way that would allow him to simply not count the votes.
Edward Foley, the director of the Election Law Project at Ohio State University, flatly rejected the interpretation.
“I mean, it was raised in the 19th century, but it’s never been accepted in the sense that the Supreme Court's never adopted it. It's never even prevailed at Congress,” he said.
That hasn’t stopped pro-Trump outlets like The Gateway Pundit from making tantalizing offers directed at Pence.“Pence can place himself in the history books alongside Thomas Jefferson or he can sign off on the destruction of the United States as we know it,” read an op-ed on the site.
Others have traded carrots for sticks: Prominent conspiratorial-minded figures, such as pro-Trump Georgia lawyer Lin Wood, claimed that Pence could be arrested, tried for treason and executed by firing squad if he did not act on Trump’s behalf. And out in the wilds of the QAnon conspiracy community, the process might not even matter: Pence, some argued, might be a body double, put in place by a Satanic cabal to further its plots.
Lawmakers in Congress, meanwhile, have different concerns on their hands: Many will soon seek reelection. And for a certain brand of politician, going MAGA is the safest bet.
“Most of these people that won during the [2020] primaries, they said, ‘I'm the most like Trump.’ And that's why most of them won their primaries,” said Breusewitz, the Stop the Steal organizer. “And so if they go back, the voters will hold them accountable.”
Perhaps conscious of this, several newly-minted representatives have vowed to keep resisting even after Biden is sworn in. Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-Ala.) pledged to push for a commission to investigate the election. Others are planning to be among those protesting in Washington, D.C. on Jan. 6. Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert, who both gained notoriety for promoting QAnon conspiracies earlier in their political careers, are scheduled to speak at the rally.
As for those who don’t sufficiently fight against Biden’s inauguration, Bruesewitz has promised they will be punished.
“When we say every Republican that does not stand strong with the president will get a primary challenger, that does not mean we believe that we can beat every single one of them,” he said. “But what it means is we will make them spend their money. And we will urge their donors to not support them.”
Even with at least 140 House Republicans and 12 Senate Republicans vowing to oppose certification on Wednesday, Congress will still sign off on Biden’s win. Only a simple congressional majority is needed to formalize the results, which is all but guaranteed given the current makeup of Congress. And Pence himself has remained chilly on the topic, with a spokesperson saying that while the vice president backed the lawmaker’s right to object, it was up to them to actually prove fraud.
For the majority of Republicans, Conant argued, “This effort to undermine the integrity of the election will only help Joe Biden. And I say that because it'll leave Biden's opposition in Congress divided and many Republicans defending a very unpopular position.”
Still, for the right type of Republican, a vast MAGA empire is within reach: Trump’s fundraising numbers skyrocketed after the election, as his campaign solicited donations to fight nebulous voter-fraud allegations. Tapping into that energy could give the most fervent MAGA Republicans a boost in the coming years.
But, as Conant noted, that only works if Trump stays involved in Republican races around the country — far from a certainty once he leaves the White House.
“I suppose if Trump made his life mission to defeat everyone that wasn't loyal with him until the very end, maybe it could have an impact,” Conant said. “Just count me skeptical that he's going to spend the next two years playing in Republican primary politics, when he never showed that much of an interest in doing that when he was president.”
Still, Breusewitz, the Stop the Steal organizer, argued Republican voters are now solidly aligned with Trump.
“Republican voters want to see the party grow in a direction towards the president’s, and continue with the ‘America First’ and the MAGA movement,” he said.
 
Instead about alleged voter fraud they should have been focused on the Georgia run offs and making sure they held the Senate which is a just as equal as Presidential Election.

Instead they let Trump run his mouth off.
They don't care about letting a different flavor of the uniparty holding the senate.
 
They don't care about letting a different flavor of the uniparty holding the senate.
Where does this uniparty shit come from? This isn't exactly the Era of Good Feelings MkII.

Seems to me like a cope for people who don't want to admit that their politics are a bit fringe and unpopular in mainstream political circles.
 
MAGAs are the new guys on the scene here. Not the neocons, bible thumpers, and fiscal conservatives.
Buddy, Trump won in 2016 because he was every single thing the GOP was selling to voters for two fucking decades. Remember? He's the dangerous populist, he's just telling you what you want to hear. Remember that? Can't be populist if nobody finds the shit you're selling to be popular, so either the whole party's agenda was a bunch of bullshit or the party is full of liars and frauds and yeah this is a multiple choice question.

These "new guys" you're talking about are actual voters and not politicians or party tit-hangers and that's why Trump lost in 2020. He did more "monitoring the situation" than he did getting things done and that whittled away enough single-issue and independent voters in spite of the massive turn-out. I can't think of a single long-time Republican voter, real Republicans, that didn't pinch their nose and vote for Trump too. I don't think they actually exist. All the people I've ever seen claim that are RINOs that talk about gun control, universal healthcare, and jacking up taxes to pay for all sorts of shit nobody needs and they're all the aforementioned tit-hangers anyways.

This is out of Trump's hands at this point. What you're seeing here is a genuine revolt against the political status quo in at least one party, but it might not stick since there's a lot of lunatics running around Q-posting and shit.
 
Gosh, if the Republicans don't want to have to deal with this problem maybe they shouldn't have let the Democrats get away with blatant electoral fraud?
 
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The recognition of a political class with its own interests.
There is that but most of it I see are people mad that their unreasonable expectations were not met. We were never going to stop illegal immigration with a physical wall. Economic development isn't as easy as fighting a trade war with China. Pulling out of all the free trade agreements and jacking up trade tariffs wasn't going to lead to a reopening of the long-dead manufacturing sector. It was all empty platitudes. The problems faced are more complicated than that.

Then, when it fell on it's ass, we have people crying "uniparty" as if that was the problem. It has become an excuse for poorly constructed policy failing to have results.
I can't think of a single long-time Republican voter, real Republicans, that didn't pinch their nose and vote for Trump too. I don't think they actually exist.
Me, for one. Trump's warmed-over Pat Buchanan paleo-conservatism never appealed to me but it was better that than corrupt democrat freebie horseshit.
This is out of Trump's hands at this point. What you're seeing here is a genuine revolt against the political status quo in at least one party, but it might not stick since there's a lot of lunatics running around Q-posting and shit.
You haven't been paying attention to the democrats then. What do you think the whole BernieBro, AOC, assorted DSA retard march is? Populist stupidity has been jumped on by both sides to attract fringe voters and they are all pretty buttmad that their dreams haven't come true. Lol.
 
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We were never going to stop illegal immigration with a physical wall.
It was meant to stymie it from that front (as people do cross the border in an attempt to illegally migrate) as well as symbolize the commitment.

Economic development isn't as easy as fighting a trade war with China.
It also wasn't the only thing being done.

Pulling out of all the free trade agreements and jacking up trade tariffs wasn't going to lead to a reopening of the long-dead manufacturing sector.
But setting up free trade agreements more favorable for the U.S. would theoretically help bring back jobs or at least slow the bleed.

It was all empty platitudes. The problems faced are more complicated than that.
Then, what were/are the issues at hand that are "more complicated than that"?
 
It was meant to stymie it from that front (as people do cross the border in an attempt to illegally migrate) as well as symbolize the commitment.
Active measures are going to be a better solution than passive. But, yes, it was intended as a symbol. A big contentious expensive symbol.
But setting up free trade agreements more favorable for the U.S. would theoretically help bring back jobs or at least slow the bleed.
What kind of jobs? Trade is a two-way street. Are you aware of how badly the agriculture sector took it in the pants over the last four years? It's been bad. The US is still a major exporter and we can be hurt. They can and do retaliate.
Then, what were/are the issues at hand that are "more complicated than that"?
The reason jobs left is how retarded expensive it is to do manufacturing in the US. They left for very sound reasons. You can't just ignore the problems. Until you address those issues it is never going to be viable as you are just subsidizing an artificial manufacturing sector and all of it's dysfunction and graft with money from the pockets of consumers who don't work in protected sectors. Sectors that are also going to get hammered by retaliatory tariffs. Sectors that are going to have their IP ripped off wholesale. Sectors that are going to get undermined in the international market.

This is about more than winning the US consumer market, it's about being competitive on the world stage. 330 million consumers versus 7 billion.

That is why it is more complicated. We can't just shitcan $1.5 trillion worth of exports for the sake of reopening some rubber dogshit factory where the workers make barely above minimum wage and still operates at a loss in Peoria.
 
Y'all need to remember that Trump is the RINO here (80's NYC Democrat) and brought in a bunch of people who aren't gelling super great with the rest of the party. MAGAs are the new guys on the scene here. Not the neocons, bible thumpers, and fiscal conservatives. It was always an unhappy marriage. Don't act shocked when the rest of the party are ready to be done with the shenanigans.
I'd heavily disagree since republican voters still largely approve of Trump. If Trump ran in the RNC again in 2024 I don't think theres anyone who would beat him.
Trump offered a change away from what Republicans were selling, and many found Trump's product much more appealing than Jeb's or Cruz's. The only issue being that Trump did not deliver.
Republicans controlling the party want to see their voters fall back in line and go back to being 2004 republicans (but accepting gay marriage now of course), but I don't think that will happen.
 
Instead about alleged voter fraud they should have been focused on the Georgia run offs and making sure they held the Senate which is a just as equal as Presidential Election.
Why bother with Georgia if they jsut can steal it again?
 
You haven't been paying attention to the democrats then. What do you think the whole BernieBro, AOC, assorted DSA retard march is? Populist stupidity has been jumped on by both sides to attract fringe voters and they are all pretty buttmad that their dreams haven't come true. Lol.
Democrats approached the angry masses entirely differently than the Republicans who did not expect or want Trump to win. Are you really trying to say that Hillary fucking Clinton was genuinely popular when she ran? That people turned out because they actually liked her? Bernie Sanders would've probably won against Trump simply on the virtue of not being a Clinton alone.

I remember when Republicans were doing everything they could to try and stonewall Trump up until he actually won the GOP pick and even then there was talk, guarantees actually, that Pence would mellow him out. I'm not sure you remember anything prior to 2018 because if Trump ran as he did four years ago he would've had a real shot running against Obama back at the start of the recession. Back when people were getting tired of war, tired of Wal-Mart killing off main street, and afraid of the uncertain future. Hell "MAGA" itself is a right-wing rebranding of "Hope and Change" in the first place.
 
Alexander Macris, a video game writer who became known for his role in Gamergate, the online harassment campaign targeting women...
Into the trash it goes.

Yes, the Establishment, whether Dem or GOP, are terrified a genuinely populist movement supplanting their stooges. The Tea Party didn't go away after the GOP knifed them in the back, they just transformed into the Trump Train. Now that the Trump Train is derailed, albeit with more votes than he had the first time, the more astute political spergs are wondering what the MAGA-types will turn into next and they are afraid that they can't keep screaming thought-terminating cliches (racists, sexists, homophobic, Islamophobic, privileged, etc.) at people as a means of shutting down dissent because fewer people are giving a fuck about their magic words. They either have to throw off the mask and openly put their boots on people's necks, or continue trying to game the system, which is already at its breaking point, of suppressing views via editorial control and algorithmic censorship.
 
Better to force the Dems' hand at cheating (and making them run the risk of getting caught) instead of waving the white flag like blackpilled bedwetters.
they stole 30k votes on a livestream, they just dont care about getting caught because they are the party of the elite and the media will never report fraud...
 
Y'all need to remember that Trump is the RINO here (80's NYC Democrat) and brought in a bunch of people who aren't gelling super great with the rest of the party. MAGAs are the new guys on the scene here. Not the neocons, bible thumpers, and fiscal conservatives. It was always an unhappy marriage. Don't act shocked when the rest of the party are ready to be done with the shenanigans.
Republican establishment: Hey, look, we’re getting all these former Democrats in places like rural Pennsylvania to vote for us!
Also, Republican establishment: why do all our new voters hate us?
 
Republican establishment: Hey, look, we’re getting all these former Democrats in places like rural Pennsylvania to vote for us!
Also, Republican establishment: why do all our new voters hate us?
I feel like the best way to sum up American politics is that the Republican establishment is Clauswitz's Dumb and Lazy officer and the Dems are his Dumb and Active officer.

Always remember that they go to the same cocktail parties and share the same congressional pages. That's where the uniparty talk comes from.
 
What the GOP doesn't realize is that Trump revived them and when Trump goes the GOP is dead. Which is a good thing, then maybe we can get populism to come back with Nick Fuentes and getting populists into office, to support America First.
 
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