Looks like kirsche covered null's latest episode of MATI about the rev and you bringing her up
Sadly she doesn't seem to know about the july 4 stream covering saba so she's lacked a ton of info on his take on the saba shit, but I think she successfully brought up some parts where null gets a bunch of stuff wrong about her, I'll go over it some more but in the meantime, there's also almightyloli that went in the chat spouting some more bs straight from the onion farms.
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Since this guy didn’t do a follow-up and I, for some reason unknown even to myself, decided to go watch it, here's the main points:
- She thought Rev was just a dramatuber who makes content like Asmongold's, and she stands by her tweet in that context, saying "it has nothing to do with lolis".
- She really did not like Josh's comments about her, feeling they deeply misrepresented her, because: 1, she doesn't make loli content (the only two instances of it she can remember is the Vice documentary, that she says lied about its ease of procurement and cultural acceptance, and the April Fools's stream, which was a joke in her own words; 2, she doesn't have these opinions because she benefits financially from them (she adds she’s very picky with her sponsorships); and 3, she’s annoyed that, even though she apparently gave multiple opportunities to Josh to discuss Vtubing, he continuously refuses despite "DM'ing me and breaking his 'no talking to fake anime women' rule".
- People continuously talked shit and raised lies about Josh in the chat, she didn't believe any of it, even attacking a site that tracks "anti-lolicons who were actually pedos" for putting Josh in their list.
- Regarding Saba, it's pretty clear she saw no ill intent behind her debut stream, not even commenting about Josh's "obvious strip tease" remark.
- She did not watch the segment about Gator and the Anime Boomers podcast because Twitch kept crashing on her.
- She doesn't like Blue Archive (loli gacha) because having minors (even ones that clearly look adult) flirt with their teacher character is gross, but she will defend its existence for free speech reasons.
- She grew up thinking loli was a petite body type, even saying "that's not a loli, it's a child" in regards to the main character of Cardcaptor Sakura, which features a middle school girl (written by a woman for women, I believe).
In the end, I do feel like there's some deep misunderstandings between both parties, I don’t think Kirsche even recognizes how bad lolishit gets, while Josh still doesn't do good enough research lmao.
I'd honestly like for reconciliation to happen between the two, since Kirsche seems nice enough, but it'd have to start from the very base and that makes shit hard.
In the end, whatever happens, happens.
Edit: I actually know exactly why I did this: I'm really invested in this drama lol. But speaking seriously, one of the best points Kirsche brought up is that she’s one of the few "big" people, and perhaps the only anime person, to give Josh a fair chance.
I'm of the mind that Josh can hate anime as much as he wants because he makes fair points about it to a certain extent (it's hard to find good Japanese media but it’s there and I personally love it), but it'd be really nice if he remained in good terms with someone like Kirsche simply due to the opportunities it may bring.
Also, it'd probably make a guy I know have a stroke, so that’s a pretty nice bonus.
