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I'm sure I remember a MATI in which Jersh lamented (I paraphrase) the lack of physical games media with all games being on Steam etc., and if Steam ever went down you would be left with nothing despite having spent $$$.

Did this exist? Does anyone remember it, or did I Mandela effect myself?
 
Sorry to necro a dead topic;

I used to think I knew what good coffee was but then a coffee roaster/Cafe opened near me this year. They make >gourmet< coffee, the best you can get. They have a bean that was natural processed which means it was dried while still in the cherry, fermenting it slightly.

on my first visit, I got it in a shot of espresso, then another, and then a pourover to take with me.

The pourover tasted like a blackberry tea, and the espresso tasted like distilled blackberries. I had no idea coffee could be that good. There is not a single store-bought coffee that compares to it and now I can't enjoy a coffee unless it's from them. There's levels to this shit
 
Null said:
CDs last like 20 years. It's not the same as vinyl.
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>Not just backing up everything on 1000 year Archival 100GB M-discs.
You want your grandchildren's grandchildren to be able to watch butterdog don't you?

Verbatim ended up buying their tech, and make the discs now. They use some kind of rock-like substrate that the data gets etched into, and this doesn't breakdown for a very long time. You do need a special writer to be able to etch the discs yourself. They baked the disc into a lasagna for their tech demo, and showed it still worked afterwards.
Old youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/@millenniata
 
Atlas Sneezed said:
No, they're plastic, that shit doesn't just rot. The reflective layer oxidizes because it's on the outside layer (on the artwork) instead being in the plastic itself. That was remedied in DVDs and Blurays. And even in CDs you can counteract it
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Someone who owns a CD and hasn’t transferred it to digital storage either as MP3 or as a cue file style rip of the entire disk in twenty years deserves what they got.
 
Lichen Bark said:
>Not just backing up everything on 1000 year Archival 100GB M-discs.
You want your grandchildren's grandchildren to be able to watch butterdog don't you?
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vK1yasQlmw8
Verbatim ended up buying their tech, and make the discs now. They use some kind of rock-like substrate that the data gets etched into, and this doesn't breakdown for a very long time. You do need a special writer to be able to etch the discs yourself. They baked the disc into a lasagna for their tech demo, and showed it still worked afterwards.
Old youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/@millenniata
https://youtube.com/watch?v=eFHYsGUf1Aw
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It's worth mentioning by "special writer" it's not some seperate or insane thing, the last 5.25 drive I bought was m-disk certified despite it being a normal drive. Time will tell if it holds up to millenia.
 
Nonconsentual Pronouns said:
A good rule to have is to only pay money for what you're physically being given, whenever applicable/possible.
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When it comes to digital purchases for me, it is either a digital only release, on sale, or upgrading the ps4 version to ps5. In which case I own a ps4 disc and can just throw it in the drive and then get a digital copy for free. As for the copyright stuff, I think america letting corps run tampant and control that shit was the worst idea ever. You own what you create, but not the idea.
LurkTrawl said:
I treat gas station food as probiotics.
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It's a right of passage. Gotta eat that Gas station hot dog every now and again to strengthen gut bacteria.
 
Atlas Sneezed said:
@Null your take on the PS5 missing disc drive made me a bit MATI. To be exact - I don't give a flying fuck about the nogamestation itself. However bringing up steam as an example of things being right? Can you resell your steam games? Can you play them offline? Can you guarantee they'll work in 20 years time?

I mean how many examples of this shit do you have to forget to be for digital distribution. My GameCube copy of Resi 4 will work until time immemorial. As will all of my SNES or even Switch cartridges. Can't say the same for people who bought digital for PS3 because if their console battery runs out and Sony takes down their NTP servers.. well sucks to suck. Or how about people who had Warcraft 3? Remember how Blizzard fucked over those people?

Physical is the only way to own a game. Digital is lending and in reality has no sense until it's purely DRM free like on GoG, and even then it's only one step removed from simply pirating shit. Which I'll admit is a totally different discussion.

And no, Gameboy carts work fine, it's the *save game* battery that needs changing. Which is a 5 minute job



No, they're plastic, that shit doesn't just rot. The reflective layer oxidizes because it's on the outside layer (on the artwork) instead being in the plastic itself. That was remedied in DVDs and Blurays. And even in CDs you can counteract it
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Jimmy Dean Bowl said:
I'm sure I remember a MATI in which Jersh lamented (I paraphrase) the lack of physical games media with all games being on Steam etc., and if Steam ever went down you would be left with nothing despite having spent $$$.

Did this exist? Does anyone remember it, or did I Mandela effect myself?
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That's a caveat, how does possession of game files which work perfectly well offline and with no authentication compare to physical media?
Is it better or worse?
Also I would say Steam is not bad in ittself in terms of ownership, they have directly charged corpos like Sony for refunds when they decide to make their game not work anymore such as the case of Helldivers.
I say how bad the game is is up to the dev's descision to use DRMs. A positive exa.ple would be Rimworld, yes it technically is inside Steam, but nothing stops you from copying the game files onto a flash drive and running from the executable off that, there is seriously no difference aside from lack of steam workshop features.
In other words, if I can routinely back up my game files with the full knowledge that I could later pull a game out and know for a fact I could still play despite Steam suddenly deciding I was strictly forbidden from playing and deleting it off my PC. This has never happened with Steam and I really do not think it will ever happen while Gaben still reigns.
 
Josh will tell you that you must pay more because graphics cards and all electronics are more expensive. But he will not tell you why they are more expensive.

True friend of the people of circumcision.
 
Dev_S said:
Josh will tell you that you must pay more because graphics cards and all electronics are more expensive. But he will not tell you why they are more expensive.

True friend of the people of circumcision.
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because ai and ml have quintupled the demand for gfx cards? is this a trick question?
 
in regards to the latest MATI, the last time i bought and installed something from a CD-ROM was like 3 days ago. it's my preferred method of game installation and i wish more modern games came out that way. i like steam but nothing beats having my vidyaslop on an actual disc that i can put on my shelf and share with my friends

EDIT: jersh is right about consoles. they provide zero benefits over a pc nowadays and have a ton of drawbacks. pc gaming is more accessible than it's ever been and the steam deck is fantastic for portable use cases. the only scenario a console makes sense for in 2024 is having a young kid, in which case a switch works fine.
 
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I am inevitable, if I must I will kill the dead gay Internet deader. I will take this as far as it can possibly go.

We run this Internet.
 
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Truly happy to see some many people considering physical media. Specifically optical media. Been into it for decades and we are really at a point where the home consumer for very little investment can archive efficiently.

Those M-Discs are a fabulous option and will certainly withstand the test of time. 1000 years is quite the boast, but I would settle for a few hundred at a lower cost.

Verbatim has been the name in archival for a long time. Their HTL inorganic manufactured discs are by all accounts the golden standard. So much so they no longer produce a LTH or anything but inorganic for the optical medium, or so they have stated publicly.

There was a decent debate earlier this year over at r/DataHoarder here. Where a (((YouTuber))) used the conversation for a article over at Medium. Where at least he explains in more detail the key differences and provides a few new to market options for the optical media enthusiast.

You can always check the Disc ID & Media Type ID here.
 
Super Dilator Duel 3D said:
jersh is right about consoles. they provide zero benefits over a pc nowadays and have a ton of drawbacks.
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Counterpoint - it seems like most games from big companies are developed on console first and then ported to PC. PC is a second class citizen for certain developers, which is intensely frustrating if you buy a game on sale because it's a couple of years old, it crashes at startup and you find untouched launch day threads about that exact issue, with no fix ever released.

This "console first, then PC" development style combined with the SoC style computing modern consoles do means devs have to optimize for a system with higher latency due to the separation of components. One of the most egregious examples is Jedi: Fallen Order. It uses Unreal Engine, which apparently has a nasty habit of slowing down anytime stuff is loaded into memory. This is a known issue and is easily optimized. You can get away with a lot on console though, and lazy dev practices abound. Fallen Order constantly loads T posing models in the player view area. Cutscene coming up? For a single frame, you see a flash of the T posing actors, a tiny "brake tap" during loading, but since RAM and Storage are so close, loading is basically instant. GPU is likewise low latency and even uses the same RAM as CPU, depending on the SoC.

PCs are way more broken up than that, so loading a model from storage, to RAM, then to GPU RAM can take a lot longer. That means you get shittier framerate as the shortcuts the dev took to make the game are more apparent. T posing models stare blankly at you, as if to imply you won't do anything but accept the shit-smeared jeetcode and you'll like it. You turn the camera in game, see an enemy about to attack you, and press the parry button. Except fuckin OOPS game had to load some shit so it freeze frames the enemy mid-attack, throwing off the timing for parries, dodges, heals...computers that have perfectly powerful, functional configurations can't run games they should be able to, and the devs never fix it, and the companies never give a shit about PC gamers because they made dat console money and are off to the races for the next game anyway.

Paying $400 bucks for a PS5 is a pretty small price to pay for a guarantee that your games are going to actually play. I get the feeling the PS5 Pro being so expensive is because they are trying to cram enough extra performance to make VR run better. Just buy a regular PS5 if you want to play regular games, PS5 pro likely won't run those same games that much better, so they had to focus on shit like "wow look how much more clear the AI upscaled version of the game is!" nigga I already play at 1080p, not 4k, so that shit means nothing to me.

Paying $800 for a PS5 Pro is fucking retarded when the PS5 does the same job, with the same games.
 
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