💰 Grifter "Mad at the Internet" - a/k/a My Psychotherapy Sessions

[JewBacca]

What about a person who jerks off to lolicon without experiencing any sort attraction to real children, distress or disability, is not impaired by that in any other aspects of their life and is not breaking any laws doing so?

IMHO yes they are a pedophile by definition. Being a pedophile is not against the law, but if you can get hard to children, drawn or otherwise, yes that person is a pedophile. The definition does not separate between real, drawn or imagined, no matter how much you would like it to.

 

[WeedMeister]

And at that stage what's really the point of splitting hairs in most cases?

Digi is extremely creepy even for an anime fan.
But Null has invited the hairsplitting by implying (maybe even directly stating) that anyone who reads lolicon is a pedophile and is enough of a danger for society to warrant getting killed just for that alone which gets into dangerously Australian territory.

IMHO yes they are a pedophile by definition.

Merriam Websters definition you quoted does not separate between real or drawn or imagined children but it does require it to be a psychiatric disorder. A person who is just jerking off to lolicon without ever being hurt or inconvenienced by it is, by Merriam Webster's definition of "Mental Illness", not experiencing a psychiatric disorder. You claim to be using dictionary definitions and yet are clearly distorting them as you see fit.


I'll stop with the autistic tangent, but, @Null, if you are reading this, please, consider at least acknowledging some nuance in this topic because people will use it as a stick to beat you up with and denying nuance even further and screaming "Pedo apologist!" at them will only make things worse.

 

[Secret Asshole]

IMHO yes they are a pedophile by definition. Being a pedophile is not against the law, but if you can get hard to children, drawn or otherwise, yes that person is a pedophile. The definition does not separate between real, drawn or imagined, no matter how much you would like it to.

Its the difference between a paraphilia (Pedophilia) and a fetish. If the person is not harming anyone else (molesting children), then its a fetish. If a person is looking at CP and things like that, actively hurting others, its a paraphilia (pedophilia).

 

[JewBacca]

Digi is extremely creepy even for an anime fan.
But Null has invited the hairsplitting by implying (maybe even directly stating) that anyone who reads lolicon is a pedophile and is enough of a danger for society to warrant getting killed just for that alone which gets into dangerously Australian territory.




Merriam Websters definition you quoted does not separate between real or drawn or imagined children but it does require it to be a psychiatric disorder. A person who is just jerking off to lolicon without ever being hurt or inconvenienced by it is, by Merriam Webster's definition of "Mental Illness", not experiencing a psychiatric disorder. You claim to be using dictionary definitions and yet are clearly distorting them as you see fit.


I'll stop with the autistic tangent, but, @Null, if you are reading this, please, consider at least acknowledging some nuance in this topic because people will use it as a stick to beat you up with and denying nuance even further and screaming "Pedo apologist!" at them will only make things worse.

Being attracted to children, enough that you can even jerk off, in my eyes is a clear line of a mental illness. It definitely isn't normal, no matter how hard you are wishing it to be normalized. To even argue the semantics of it, leads me to believe you are a disgusting degenerate yourself. So let me get this straight, even if someone goes around raping kids, they aren't a pedophile, until they have been diagnosed with a mental disorder? That's some sick twisted logic youre spinning there.

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[CivilianOfTheFandomWars]

Guys, we’re missing the big question here.
Doesn’t it depend on the child, really?

 

[AnOminous]

Pedophilia is never a good subject to talk about in a public place, one wrong word and you will look like a monster. But it’s a discussion that needs to happen because it’s a massive problem that needs to be dealt with.

The Digibrony Rule: If you are arguing and you are defending CP on its merits, you lose. Doesn't matter if the other guy is literally covered in shit and eating his own boogers, you lose.

I'll stop with the autistic tangent, but, @Null, if you are reading this, please, consider at least acknowledging some nuance in this topic because people will use it as a stick to beat you up with and denying nuance even further and screaming "Pedo apologist!" at them will only make things worse.

I think Null can live with being known as someone who lacks fine nuance on pedophilia. If he's going to be attacked, just as well the person attacking him thinks it's a super awesome line of attack to say he's mean to pedos. I mean seriously are you thinking this through?

 

[Sheryl Nome]

The only line of attack that came up on Null from this debacle is that he let his feelings get hurt by a fag like Riley lmao

 

[Null]

The only line of attack that came up on Null from this debacle is that he let his feelings get hurt by a fag like Riley lmao

I do believe Dick tells him what to do because he's disposable.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

I do believe Dick tells him what to do because he's disposable.

I mean thats fine thats a legit thing to believe but you should have gotten Dick to say it to your face, so to speak. If he's gonna expose himself and show himself to be a faggot, make him do it instead of assuming it.

Hindsight is 20/20 and all though.

 

[Takayuki Yagami]

I mean thats fine thats a legit thing to believe but you should have gotten Dick to say it to your face, so to speak. If he's gonna expose himself and show himself to be a faggot, make him do it instead of assuming it.

Hindsight is 20/20 and all though.

He wouldn’t have said it to his face. Admitting to using someone for that means you no longer have plausible deniability. It defeats the point.

 

[Sheryl Nome]

He wouldn’t have said it to his face. Admitting to using someone for that means you no longer have plausible deniability. It defeats the point.

So by forcing the issue Josh would have gotten to a better result either way.

1. He would have gotten to stay in the discord and not have his feels hurt
or 2. He would have made Dick actually say it

Idk why he cowtowed to Riley lmao

 

[Disheveled Human]

So by forcing the issue Josh would have gotten to a better result either way.

1. He would have gotten to stay in the discord and not have his feels hurt
or 2. He would have made Dick actually say it

Idk why he cowtowed to Riley lmao

You been rambling on all day because your favorite characters didn't interact with each other the way you wanted. We get it you can stop hammering the same point over and over again.

 

[Angry Shoes]

So apparently null is also on a Ween kick.

 

[ZombiefiedFerret]

So apparently null is also on a Ween kick.

The fuck is that?

 

[ddlloo]

The fuck is that?

Lego Yoda would be happy to tell you all.

 

[Titos]

but is he sexually attracted to 2D children or 3D children? or his he attracted to both? if its only 2D, his still not gone full pedo but its still weird and uncomfortable.

If you're sexually attracted to photos of anime girls shitting does that not still make you a scat fetishist? I don't see how it being a drawing makes any difference outside of there technically not being a real world victim, you still enjoy the idea of the drawing which in the case of loli is children, if it wasn't it would not be named after a book about fucking an underage person. If we get to the point where we are good enough at genetic engineering where we have people with actual shitting dick nipples I don't think anyone would argue that the guy who originally drew shitting dick nipples isn't a shitting dick nipple enthusiast.

The fuck is that?

Seriously nigga?

 

[ddlloo]

Look, personally I do think there is a substantial difference between lolicon and outright CP but lets not kid ourselves that regularly partaking in lolicon still makes you a pretty sick individual. I mean, yay no kids were harmed in the making of it but you're still getting sexual gratification from the idea of sexualising children. It's not a 'normal' type of behavior (nor one that SHOULD be normalized), not something you should be proud of or bragging about (let alone really talking about in general), nor something that should ever be condoned beyond "well it's better than diddling kids'.

Bringing the topic back to the degenerate at hand, I personally think it's hard to argue that digi is just a loli connoisseur (fetishist) and not an outright pedophile considering the totality and prolificity of his off the wall statements. It genuinely seems a part of his identity, which is sad, pathetic, and concerning. And while I do agree that he hasn't committed any crimes, nor is guaranteed to commit crimes, I'd sure as shit be pushing him away from any friendship groups I was in. Not even because of some perceived likelihood of him eventually diddling kids, but because he's clearly not right in the head and not in a way which I can summon any great sympathy. The best I can manage is pity, but that's incredibly tempered by how unabashed about the whole thing he is.

 

[Dogfacefuke]

I have to admit Null got me to reconsider my position on Hentai. I think he kind of sperged out a little bit, but I felt it was justified considering A) the subject matter, B) Digi in question, and C) Dicks continued blind eye towards what's staring him right in the face.

It really goes to show how fucked our morals have gotten that someone like Digi is literally screaming with pride about how much he loves jerking off to pictures of little girls getting raped, and that we even have to sit here and have this conversation about why that is not acceptable (which is putting it lightly).

I would like to think that there was a voice in the back of Dick's mind asking "am I really defending this right now?", but I think our society is so fucked up now that people can't even remember what a Man and a Woman are, and so now they will defend anything, and we've actually gotten to the point where we are now going to entertain the mechanics of what is acceptable and unacceptable Pedophilic Behaviour.

And just as mass and wide Gay acceptance opened the floodgates towards the dissolution of Gender, now so too will they go towards dissolving Age and Pornographic Sexual Perspective.

I'm saying this as an open Homosexual; the cultural push towards open acceptance and now promotion of faggotry is what started this mess, and where it needs to end is that Homosexuality and other degeneracy needs to return back underground. That line needs to be drawn for the sanity of society as a whole.

It was never a good idea to bring it out into the open and faggots are too promiscuous and unstable to benefit from any perceived positives that it brings to them anyways.

 

[Top Skink]

The Digibrony Rule: If you are arguing and you are defending CP on its merits, you lose. Doesn't matter if the other guy is literally covered in shit and eating his own boogers, you lose.

I think Null can live with being known as someone who lacks fine nuance on pedophilia. If he's going to be attacked, just as well the person attacking him thinks it's a super awesome line of attack to say he's mean to pedos. I mean seriously are you thinking this through?

Exactly. Null didn't say that loli should be illegal, he didn't say everyone that looks at it are child rapists, he didn't even say that he thought dick having that stance was the real issue. Dick trying to deep dive into legal arguments or sophisticated musings about who self-inserts as who in pornography is beside the point, because the point is a comedy show about what makes you arage and if you put your dick over the waistband isn't the place to pull a Destiny and make a venn diagram overlapping what's ethical and what's child pornography.

I think it bears repeating because people will try to bend and twist it as time goes on- the point is not autistic arguing over whether loli should be legal. who cares. the point is the people consuming it are gross freaks that ruin everything they're a part of, and will invariably bring their disgusting fetishes into the community they've invaded until it's just as bad as they are. so you either let them stay and watch as TDS (or anything else) gets weirder and more fucked up (and not in the fun, funny way) or push back, tell them to fuck off, and if that fails resign that you did the best you could and nuke the site from orbit. Null obviously has personal beef over this with 9ch, but loli has as many sunk ships of "community's gone to shit" as furries or bronies do.


Why Dick can't understand that the issue is how bad it looks and what it does over time, and not just a "well I'd rather have it than CP if the feds raid so no problem!" is beyond me

Edit: oh and PS these people get off on attention, doesn't matter if it's positive or negative. They're the sorts that like being *that guy* everyone constantly jeers as soon as they enter a chat just as much as if everyone was praising them- there's a reason conrad took that ridiculous 'cash me ousside' TROLLING KF OWNER BY BEING A PEDO WITH FACTS AND LOGIC angle, it's because they're addicted to being center of attention. so speak yo speech, call them gross, but then take the sam and max route of just laughing at them or ignoring until they go away

 

[4str4staleatherbelt]

Am I a murderer for killing people in videogames because the definition of murder doesn't make the distinction between the murder of a real or fake/simulated human being? @JewBacca