Culture Lula criticizes middle class for voting for Bolsonaro - "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY!", socialist man sperged.

In a debate promoted by the Perseu Abramo Foundation and the Friedrich Ebert Foundation last week, former President Lula stated that the Brazilian middle class is "rich and ungrateful." In his vision, his leftist policies lifted Brazilians out of poverty and then they moved on to vote for the right, represented in Jair Bolsonaro.

“We have a middle class that enjoys a living standard that no other middle classes in the world enjoy. We have a middle class that has a living standard that you don't have in Europe, that you don't have in many places,” Lula proclaimed.

He added: “People are humble. Here, in Latin America, the so-called middle class has a much higher living standard than necessary”, criticizing those who were once their voters.

“There is a limit of things that can satisfy a human being. I want a house, I want to mobilise faster, I want to be married, I want a television, but it is not necessary to have one in every room, one television is enough”, emphasized the ex-convict.

Then he added: “I want a computer, I want a cell phone. I mean, as long as you don't set limits, you make people buy a $400 million boat and buy another to land their helicopter."

Lula's comments, however, do not correspond to reality. According to the Locomotive Institute, the size of the Brazilian middle class - which includes those with a family income between R$ 2,971 to R$ 7,202 (NT: about US$600 to US$1500)- was at the lowest level in more than 10 years in relation to the total population when Jair Bolsonaro took office.

The studies are based on data from the National Continuous Household Sampling Survey (Pnad), the Household Budget Survey (POF) and the Brazilian Institute of Geography and Statistics (IBGE).

The president also jumped in to respond to Lula's unhappy comments, redoubling the bet. “There is a candidate there who criticizes the middle class. What is the middle class? A person earns an average of R$2,500 a month, a couple earns up to R$5,000 a month. Among other barbarities, this guy said that you can only have a television at home, that is hand in hand with socialism. He wants to interfere in people's lives,” Bolsonaro said.

“Imagine me with only one TV at home? My wife doesn't watch soccer, I would have to stop watching soccer," she said with a laugh on her weekly Facebook broadcast last Thursday. Socialism believes that the fact that resources are scarce implies that there will necessarily be poverty and therefore, limits must be placed on what each person can buy or save. Capitalism refutes this archaic vision with ease: the price system. In capitalism, no one is left without a television or a car because someone else buys it. The wealth of the world increases as production increases and productivity improves, which occurs through technological developments and the accumulation of knowledge.

As production grows, poverty falls and living standards improve. Before the 18th century, 90% of the world's population lived in conditions that today would be considered extreme poverty. Today, this number is less than 10%, and it continues to drop.

source - translated by me.

 

[Pentex]

In a debate promoted by the Perseu Abramo Foundation and the Friedrich Ebert Foundation last week, former President Lula stated that the Brazilian middle class is "rich and ungrateful." In his vision, his leftist policies lifted Brazilians out of poverty and then they moved on to vote for the right, represented in Jair Bolsonaro.

“We have a middle class that enjoys a living standard that no other middle classes in the world enjoy. We have a middle class that has a living standard that you don't have in Europe, that you don't have in many places,” Lula proclaimed.

He added: “People are humble. Here, in Latin America, the so-called middle class has a much higher living standard than necessary”, criticizing those who were once their voters.

“There is a limit of things that can satisfy a human being. I want a house, I want to mobilise faster, I want to be married, I want a television, but it is not necessary to have one in every room, one television is enough”, emphasized the ex-convict.

It's a standard refrain of communists that 'no one wants to socialize your toothbrush' (i.e. micromanage your daily life), yet they never give any reason why a DICTATORSHIP of the proletariat couldn't or wouldn't do so.

In this case, the toothbrush is your TV, and the socializer wants to restrict your purchases because he thinks you have it too good, further proving that socialists are miserable fucking creatures whose primary goal is not to increase or even share wealth, but to build a mechanism by which humans can be selectively impoverished and immiserated without recourse.

 

[Ow The Edge]

Why isn’t he still in prison again?

 

[Ita Mori]

In his vision, his leftist policies lifted Brazilians out of poverty and then they moved on to vote for the right, represented in Jair Bolsonaro.

Isn't that what also happens to capitalists who lift their families out of poverty and into wealth, only for their children to become pampered socialists with delusions of revolution and the being "a working man's man"?

What, is it bad when ingrates only resent you?

“We have a middle class that enjoys a living standard that no other middle classes in the world enjoy. We have a middle class that has a living standard that you don't have in Europe, that you don't have in many places,” Lula proclaimed.

Name five standards.

Here, in Latin America, the so-called middle class has a much higher living standard than necessary

You don't decide what's necessary for anyone else, you pinko fascist wannabe dictator.

“There is a limit of things that can satisfy a human being. I want a house, I want to mobilise faster, I want to be married, I want a television, but it is not necessary to have one in every room, one television is enough”, emphasized the ex-convict.

To an extent, I personally agree that objects and things won't bring you satisfaction, but you and I don't get to decide what others do with their income and when their wants should end.

Why is this retard commie after the middle class and not the Brazilian oligarchs? Seems to me all his ranting about excess and superficiality would be better placed against the people who have 30 condos worldwide and yachts in every major city.

Then he added: “I want a computer, I want a cell phone. I mean, as long as you don't set limits, you make people buy a $400 million boat and buy another to land their helicopter."

Again, why are you attacking the middle class with 3 TVs and a PS5 and not the $400 million dollar boat owners? What kind of nu-commie are you anyway?

Lula's comments, however, do not correspond to reality. According to the Locomotive Institute, the size of the Brazilian middle class - which includes those with a family income between R$ 2,971 to R$ 7,202 (NT: about US$600 to US$1500)- was at the lowest level in more than 10 years in relation to the total population when Jair Bolsonaro took office.

Hey! To Lula, $1500 USD is more than enough for you plebs.

 

[Chad Holdenford]

He literally believes the working class owes it to him that their standard of living got better under his presidency, and that he can totally work his magic again to stabilize the country if he gets elected.

He's also mad that Bolsonaro still manages to be well-loved, moves huge crowds wherever he goes to, and uses the same populist tactics he and his cronies used back in the day, while he simply can't go outside without someone heckling the shit out of him. Even in the Northeastern area, where the vast majority of the Workers' Party's voting base still resides.

Addendum: In Brazil, the "middle class" is just a convenient talking point the local Left uses, a "buffer zone" of sorts, that refers to working-class folks that don't have a defined ideology and may not vote for the Left out of true loyalty to the cause. Shitloads of people voted for Lula back in 2002 and 2006, but voted for Bolsonaro in 2018.

Why isn’t he still in prison again?

The Supreme Court ordered his release. All but three justices were appointees during his tenures and those of his successor Dilma Roussef, and even the ones that weren't are on his pockets either way.
It's a huge gamble to get him elected. He gets released, has every single corruption charge on him dropped, and has a good portion of the media apparatus working on his behalf. Solely to guarantee the same money laundering schemes he used to run back in the day, the population and the economy be damned. He knows the people get content with cool products, and as long as he "provides" a way for them to delve into short-term consoomerist crap, he has the game set even if it's obvious he's deviating tax money for himself and his stooges.

 

[Titos]

I love this retard acting like the middle class in fucking Brazil is above the standards of the middle class in the US or Europe. Your "middle class" is still buying fucking Genesis games because basic electronics cost a fortune. Unless your index is the amount of ass implants and lip fillers the Brazilian middle class might as well be trailer trash in the US or Europe.

 

[Open Window Maniac]

I'll never stop enjoying how much socialists seethe over the middle class rejecting them.

 

[The Big O]

Not hiding your contempt for the middle class is pretty damn foolish of Lula to state so openly. Bolsonaro is likewise far from perfect, but Brazil has seemingly done alright under him compared to the Lula years according to Brazilbro acquaintances I talk to online.