Lolicon/Shotacon Defense Force - The people who jerk off to cartoon children and won't ever shut up about it

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Kyangyenki said:
Author asked anime studio purposely to reduce fanservice by making Tanya/characters not too pretty, which upset a lot of nonce weebs from what i recall :lit:
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Alright that's based. The author probably didn't want sickos to jerk off to them.
 
Maeis said:
I dunno about impotent rage, more like the classic "you were always meant to be special" trope. People joke that Harry Potter was the first isekai, and while that's silly, it's very similar in that a new world of possibilities has awakened for you.
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I would argue the character of Isekai is too fundamentally different to Harry Potter, though.

What makes Harry Potter special is that he is useful to kill one dude, and is famous for surviving something anyone else would always have survived. He's "The boy who lived" because of a confluence of circumstances any other loving mother could have created. He is not in control, he's a pawn that's put through shit as a footsoldier entirely because his mum made him useful on accident. He as a person is not exceptional. He grows up to be a beat cop, married into a working class family, whilst his friends go on to do more impressive things and wouldn't have done even that without a huge support network. The wizarding world treats him better than the Dursleys and that's enough for him to want to absorb himself into it, but the reality is that the group known to treat him as the most special is the Weasleys and all they do that's special is show him the love and support any child deserves. We even get to see the only sort of escapism he longs for in the Mirror of Erezad: Having his mum and dad back. (the Mirror explicitly can kill you with the fantasy it shows you.) Even his relationship with Voldemort is characterized by his utility as a hoarcrux & symbol. He's peers with a cup and a necklace if he were to fall.

If Harry Potter was an Isekai, he would be over powered, have survived the killing curse because he was just so cool and strong, his feats of strength would guide him to his ultimate destiny of being the next Merlin and the whole world would bow down to accommodate him. He'd have a harem, not have hitched up with the one girl who showed authentic interest in him. Man couldn't even leverage his fame to get and keep a Chinky girl without fucking it up completely. He failed the Linus Tech Tip Challenge.
 
Maeis said:
I dunno about impotent rage, more like the classic "you were always meant to be special" trope. People joke that Harry Potter was the first isekai, and while that's silly, it's very similar in that a new world of possibilities has awakened for you.
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How the fuck would harry potter be the first? Wizard of oz literally opens with a kid getting sucked to another country via a tornado and predates it by several decades, and there's a lot of stories before that with isekai-type shit.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
All of this was pre planned for months presumably. And it went off without a hitch. She now has over a million subs on her new channel. She is raking in the cash without Hololive taking a cut. And
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You crazy Mormon bastard, Ayatollah Smith smiles upon you. I'm putting this thread on my watchlist from now on.
 
I wouldn't consider isekai to be a genre. It's more of an exposition vehicle to get the self insert character into middle of the story without much of a prelude and is then for the most part discarded. It more firmly locks the trope into the 2014+ mushoku tensei/shieldbro types, while excluding prior series like SAO/Log Horizon.
It makes it separate from faery/spirited away stories.
 
Sooty Soot said:
You crazy Mormon bastard, Ayatollah Smith smiles upon you. I'm putting this thread on my watchlist from now on.
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Thank you. I didn't do it alone though. I had an immense amount of help from fellow Kiwis sorting through this shitheap. It can't be understated how much stuff has been wiped. There is stuff we don't know and might not ever know. Hololive was through in scrubbing her internet presence. I'm glad to have good people I know I can count on.
 
Maeis said:
I thought "loli" literally just meant a minor. All the way from literal babies to teenagers that aren't eighteen.
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Ayana Otonashi said:
Thank you for clarifying
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The trope is characters that are visually really young, preteen shit. I have no clue how the fuck you missed this. It's literally why lolicons are viewed as extremely disgusting.
 
The Lawgiver said:
The trope is characters that are visually really young, preteen shit. I have no clue how the fuck you missed this. It's literally why lolicons are viewed as extremely disgusting.
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I mean, I thought dating a teenager was pretty fucked, so I understood why people hated lolicons.
 
The Lawgiver said:
-Megumin-
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In Mr. Trainers book, the one that introduced the term to Japan through real cases (that were disgustingly romanticized) there are several instances where teenagers are referred to as "lolitas". Including individuals aged at 14-15.

Dumbass horny teenagers doing dumbass horny teenage things doesn't upset me, it's when they're blatantly abused, manipulated and targeted when I take issue.
Pornography is a naturally abusive, manipulative industry that these individuals should have no place in.
 
Sneedfully and Peacefully said:
So is she or isn't she Jewish? Josh said she was a frumpy jew but the dad is protestant?
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Probably based on the available pictures of her.

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People only ever post the first, heavily filtered one, for some reason.
 
WelperHelper99 said:
All of this was pre planned for months presumably. And it went off without a hitch. She now has over a million subs on her new channel. She is raking in the cash without Hololive taking a cut. And all she gave up was any shred of dignity she had left.
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One thing I would like to say is that I feel like there's something to these channels that little girls make of themselves playing with the littlest pet shop dolls, if I remember right, I think a few other members of Hololive EN did the same thing, and I'm sure if you dug through many femmecows, you'd see a pattern there. My only guess is that it's some kind of autistic outlet, but I wonder what the deeper part of it is, since more often than not its these same dolls.
 
The Lawgiver said:
The trope is characters that are visually really young, preteen shit. I have no clue how the fuck you missed this. It's literally why lolicons are viewed as extremely disgusting.
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Usually I'd agree a 14-15 is not a loli purely by definition...
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But come on man. She is even called one in the show multiple times by multiple characters. The 9000 year old dragon trope applies here.
 
FuluFuckwit said:
In Mr. Trainers book, the one that introduced the term to Japan through real cases (that were disgustingly romanticized) there are several instances where teenagers are referred to as "lolitas". Including individuals aged at 14-15.

Dumbass horny teenagers doing dumbass horny teenage things doesn't upset me, it's when they're blatantly abused, manipulated and targeted when I take issue.
Pornography is a naturally abusive, manipulative industry that these individuals should have no place in.
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This thread is about anime pedos, not lolita complex. The term "loli" in anime is almost always used specifically for visual preteens.
WelperHelper99 said:
Usually I'd agree a 14-15 is not a loli purely by definition...
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But come on man. She is even called one in the show multiple times by multiple characters. The 9000 year old dragon trope applies here.
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You are fucking deranged or lying if you say "9000 year old dragon" trope applies to a short kid who is canonically still a kid. It's a kid. There's no if ands or smokescreens just because she's 15.
 
The Lawgiver said:
This thread is about anime pedos, not lolita complex. The term "loli" in anime is almost always used specifically for visual preteens.
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The term "Lolicon" is a shorthand term for Lolita Complex.........?
Loli is short for Lolita......?

I don't like getting anal about terminology, but Trainers book is what popularized the term in Japan.
 
themanwithnogf said:
One thing I would like to say is that I feel like there's something to these channels that little girls make of themselves playing with the littlest pet shop dolls, if I remember right, I think a few other members of Hololive EN did the same thing, and I'm sure if you dug through many femmecows, you'd see a pattern there. My only guess is that it's some kind of autistic outlet, but I wonder what the deeper part of it is, since more often than not its these same dolls.
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I... couldn't tell you. Women have played with dolls and oversized pillows since sewing was a thing. I think that is just part of being a woman. It might be trying to appear cute however. Hololive is a somewhat "safe" brand. There are limits to what their actors are allowed to do. That feels like it fits within
 
WelperHelper99 said:
I... couldn't tell you. Women have played with dolls and oversized pillows since sewing was a thing. I think that is just part of being a woman. It might be trying to appear cute however. Hololive is a somewhat "safe" brand. There are limits to what their actors are allowed to do. That feels like it fits within
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I can't lie there's like a 99.999% chance I'm on to fucking nothing, but I always notice it's the same dolls.
 
The Lawgiver said:
You are fucking deranged or lying if you say "9000 year old dragon" trope applies to a short kid who is canonically still a kid. It's a kid. There's no if ands or smokescreens just because she's 15.
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I just go by what the show has stated multiple times. Megumin is a loli via Word of God.
 
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