EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
I just want to thank the guys and gals who keep this thread updated, the media blackout on this really is unbelievable. It HAS to be intentional, right? It's not like people aren't interested, they're intentionally keeping people in the dark about these events. I don't want to believe that's true because that's just frightening to think but what other reason is there?

Also stop posting videos of that homo styx and that other fat fuck tim poole.
 
I just want to thank the guys and gals who keep this thread updated, the media blackout on this really is unbelievable. It HAS to be intentional, right? It's not like people aren't interested, they're intentionally keeping people in the dark about these events. I don't want to believe that's true because that's just frightening to think but what other reason is there?

Also stop posting videos of that homo styx and that other fat fuck tim poole.
Of course it's intentional. 16 (soon to be 17) straight weeks of protests by increasing numbers of the French populace and not a peep from media outlets is blatantly intentional. They only break the news blackout to shit on them and call them every "ist" and accuse them of every "ism" they can think of in hopes that something sticks. They can't have the other citizens of western European nations getting it in their heads that their unelected EU masters aren't infallible or beyond reproach. That narrative of a strong EU with popular support from the populace is more important to them than the actual populace rejecting them.

The irony is this total news blackout is one of the larger reasons they're protesting in the first place -- the establishment isn't listening to them. I mean I know listening to French people is god awful, but they've got a centuries long record of making their leaders regret it when they don't.
 
I just want to thank the guys and gals who keep this thread updated, the media blackout on this really is unbelievable. It HAS to be intentional, right? It's not like people aren't interested, they're intentionally keeping people in the dark about these events. I don't want to believe that's true because that's just frightening to think but what other reason is there?

Also stop posting videos of that homo styx and that other fat fuck tim poole.

It hasn't been lost on the Yellow Vests. I think it was after a month of protesting and the media deliberately undermining the whole movement, the YV started targeting media outlets.

After Brexit, there seems to be a steady rise in anti-EU attitudes that they probably want to keep under control. With France, (kinda the second in command of the EU sort of), blowing up into anti-EU protests. That's a big deal and could bring down the entire bloc if left to spread. There have been Yellow Vest inspired anti-EU protests in Brussels already.
To me, the media blackout means they are scared that the people will get ideas and rise up. I've never seen anything like this before.
 
I remember as a younger man thinking the people ranting and raving about a new world order and a world government were just crazy conspiracy theorists.

I still think that, but I'm beginning to think that doesn't mean they were wrong....
 
I remember as a younger man thinking the people ranting and raving about a new world order and a world government were just crazy conspiracy theorists.

I still think that, but I'm beginning to think that doesn't mean they were wrong....
Good! now you just need to get a grip of WHO is doing this. (it rhymes with WHO...)
 
I just want to thank the guys and gals who keep this thread updated, the media blackout on this really is unbelievable. It HAS to be intentional, right? It's not like people aren't interested, they're intentionally keeping people in the dark about these events. I don't want to believe that's true because that's just frightening to think but what other reason is there?
To me, the media blackout means they are scared that the people will get ideas and rise up. I've never seen anything like this before.

It's happened before where the news media aligned with the government to silence popular opinion, and it didn't end well for either of them.

It never does. Like people have said itt history may not repeat but it definitely rhymes.
 
Glad to see the frencies aren't backing down can't wait to see the guillotines start rolling.
Someone should update the poll btw this situation has begun way bigger than a small incident in the countryside (which ironically is the only situation the press is happy to report because it makes the movement look bad)
 
Week 17 and still no sign of slowing down.
https://twitter.com/Gerrrty/status/1104319073528279041 (http://archive.vn/CMgED)
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1104290499458932736 (http://archive.vn/i6be5)
https://twitter.com/Ian56789/status/1104365200923394049 (http://archive.vn/xoIkr)

The crowds-- still big as ever
The cops-- still overly brutal
Shit-- still on fire
Macron -- still lying out his ass

The Champs Elysee was packed, but that's kind of a given by now. Plenty of video and tweets about it if you want to check for yourself.

This guy shrugging off a water cannon is pretty cool:

Moto-cop ran over a dude. Allegedly this was last week:

Nègre cops stole his bike :(
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1104442207698907144 (http://archive.vn/OzGLR)

Plainclothes riot cop (the worst ones apparently) trying out the allahu ackbar approach:
https://twitter.com/CrackdownReport/status/1103204795387703296 (http://archive.vn/kBs20)

They're still letting people pass through toll roads unabated:
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1104348572995207168 (http://archive.vn/gsAtk)
https://twitter.com/WinterOakPress/status/1103780625817976832 (http://archive.vn/ZkNqf)
Costs the companies that nickel and dime drivers a lot of money apparently (God I wish this specific thing happened here)

Oh and here's that kid that got nailed in the face by the cops a couple weeks ago while he was getting groceries:

And here's that guy who lost his hand in Bordeaux way back in the early weeks, along with a dude who lost his eye. Good video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoYFjryuFjs (https://streamable.com/6d1um)

(Feel free to archive all these videos in other ways if you want)

Cops blocking a theater in Paris.
https://twitter.com/NewsCompact/status/1104451147517980675 (http://archive.vn/xMoge)
I don't know if French theaters are also being forced to play only Captain Marvel over there this weekend; if they are then for once the riot cops have done the people a good service :)

Note: All the streamable videos I baked into the text can be found in those twitter/archive links.
 
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I honestly think the French themselves care far less about the yellow jackets than most people in this thread. The popularity of the yellow jackets is steadily decreasing. This thread is mostly about the protesters getting the tar beaten out of them by the police, but these people are the minority. The majority of the yellow jackets (the ones no one cares about) are retarded neckbeards who block roads and purposely slow down traffic every week-end, and gang up on you when you politely ask them to let you through.

The French who don't live in Paris are getting tired of having to deal with angry middle-aged hicks every time they have to drive anywhere. Compare the beginning of the riots several months ago and now and the difference is plain to see: a few months ago plenty of people supported the YJ, and when they were blocking roads you had tons of people putting a yellow jacket on their seats to show their support. Now people call the police immediately, and the YJ get kicked back to their dusty trucks in less than fifteen minutes, driving away as slowly as possible while giving the middle-finger to anyone who dares throw a look at them.

These people are retarded. Earlier in this thread someone said that the French would put up with literally anything as long as it doesn't disrupt their daily routine. I think that person was right, and that's why the YJ are slowly getting closer and closer to getting an irl cow status. When they decided to attack ordinary people who had nothing to do with Macron's policies, they shot themselves in the foot.
 
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I honestly think the French themselves care far less about the yellow jackets than most people in this thread. The popularity of the yellow jackets is steadily decreasing. This thread is mostly about the protesters getting the tar beaten out of them by the police, but these people are the minority. The majority of the yellow jackets (the ones no one cares about) are exceptional neckbeards who block roads and purposely slow down traffic every week-end, and gang up on you when you politely ask them to let you through.

The French who don't live in Paris are getting tired of having to deal with angry middle-aged hicks every time they have to drive anywhere. Compare the beginning of the riots several months ago and now and the difference is plain to see: a few months ago plenty of people supported the YJ, and when they were blocking roads you had tons of people putting a yellow jacket on their seats to show their support. Now people call the police immediately, and the YJ get kicked back to their dusty trucks in less than fifteen minutes, driving away as slowly as possible while giving the middle-finger to anyone who dares throw a look at them.

These people are exceptional. Earlier in this thread someone said that the French would put up with literally anything as long as it doesn't disrupt their daily routine. I think that person was right, and that's why the YJ are slowly getting closer and closer to getting an irl cow status. When they decided to attack ordinary people who had nothing to do with Macron's policies, they shot themselves in the foot.
Guys he's right, if its not showing in the news is not happening.
 
To me, the media blackout means they are scared that the people will get ideas and rise up. I've never seen anything like this before.

You see anything about the maquiladora workers strike in Northern Mexico? 100,000 auto parts and bottling workers right on the US/Mexico border just finished a 2 month long strike that netted them a 20% pay increase and a $1600 yearly bonus. Popular movements against management get the silent treatment, because the more dissent spreads the costlier it is to appease it.
 
I honestly think the French themselves care far less about the yellow jackets than most people in this thread. The popularity of the yellow jackets is steadily decreasing. This thread is mostly about the protesters getting the tar beaten out of them by the police, but these people are the minority. The majority of the yellow jackets (the ones no one cares about) are exceptional neckbeards who block roads and purposely slow down traffic every week-end, and gang up on you when you politely ask them to let you through.

The French who don't live in Paris are getting tired of having to deal with angry middle-aged hicks every time they have to drive anywhere. Compare the beginning of the riots several months ago and now and the difference is plain to see: a few months ago plenty of people supported the YJ, and when they were blocking roads you had tons of people putting a yellow jacket on their seats to show their support. Now people call the police immediately, and the YJ get kicked back to their dusty trucks in less than fifteen minutes, driving away as slowly as possible while giving the middle-finger to anyone who dares throw a look at them.

These people are exceptional. Earlier in this thread someone said that the French would put up with literally anything as long as it doesn't disrupt their daily routine. I think that person was right, and that's why the YJ are slowly getting closer and closer to getting an irl cow status. When they decided to attack ordinary people who had nothing to do with Macron's policies, they shot themselves in the foot.


Yeah, I think I said it months ago - French people are okay with any regime as long as it doesn’t disturb their day-to-day life.
That’s also why most French people didn’t mind the Vichy (Nazi-allied) regime back during WW2. For 80-90% of the population, it didn’t really have any impact on their routine, so nobody really cared.

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Same year as Stalingrad btw.

Anyways, from the perspective of someone living in Paris, the Yellow Vest movement is less popular than in November, by far.
It’s not gone, and the center of Paris is still blocked every Saturday, and you still have cop violence against protesters, but honestly, the momentum is gone.

And that’s coming from someone that covered the November - December riots, and who really wanted to see Macron’s regime being toppled, just for the sake of it.

There’s a very nice French expression that’s used to talk about it - “s’essouffler”, meaning to get out of breath. And I think that’s very apt. Past Christmas, the Yellow Vest movement really never got back to the same scope as before.

Now, the new “hot topic” is climate change. And an anti-European sentiment that pervades all social actions.

Tldr: Yellow Vests aren’t gone, but the movement has less impact and public support now. The media blackout doesn’t help either.
 
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