EU Le Gilets Jaune protests thread - Do you hear the people sing? Singing the songs of angry men?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46233560

One protester has died and dozens were injured as almost a quarter of a million people took to the streets of France, angry at rising fuel prices.

The female protester who died was struck after a driver surrounded by demonstrators panicked and accelerated.

The "yellow vests", so-called after the high-visibility jackets they are required to carry in their cars, blocked motorways and roundabouts.

They accuse President Emmanuel Macron of abandoning "the little people".

Mr Macron has not so far commented on the protests, some of which have seen demonstrators call for him to resign.

But he admitted earlier in the week that he had not "really managed to reconcile the French people with their leaders".

Nonetheless, he accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

What has happened so far?
Some 244,000 people took part in protests across France, the interior ministry said in its latest update.

It said 106 people were injured during the day, five seriously, with 52 people arrested.

Most of the protests have been taking place without incident although several of the injuries came when drivers tried to force their way through protesters.

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Image captionA driver forces a car through a group of protesters in Donges, western France
Chantal Mazet, 63, was killed in the south-eastern Savoy region when a driver who was taking her daughter to hospital panicked at being blocked by about 50 demonstrators, who were striking the roof of her vehicle, and drove into them.

The driver has been taken into police custody in a state of shock.

In Paris protesters approaching the Élysée Palace, the president's official residence, were repelled with tear gas.

Why are drivers on the warpath?
The price of diesel, the most commonly used fuel in French cars, has risen by around 23% over the past 12 months to an average of €1.51 (£1.32; $1.71) per litre, its highest point since the early 2000s, AFP news agency reports.

World oil prices did rise before falling back again but the Macron government raised its hydrocarbon tax this year by 7.6 cents per litre on diesel and 3.9 cents on petrol, as part of a campaign for cleaner cars and fuel.

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Image captionTear gas was used to disperse protesters in Paris
The decision to impose a further increase of 6.5 cents on diesel and 2.9 cents on petrol on 1 January 2019 was seen as the final straw.

Speaking on Wednesday, the president blamed world oil prices for three-quarters of the price rise. He also said more tax on fossil fuels was needed to fund renewable energy investments.

How big is the movement?
It has broad support. Nearly three-quarters of respondents to a poll by the Elabe institute backed the Yellow Vests and 70% wanted the government to reverse the fuel tax hikes.

More than half of French people who voted for Mr Macron support the protests, Elabe's Vincent Thibault told AFP.

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Image captionPolice attend as protesters block a motorway in Antibes
"The expectations and discontent over spending power are fairly broad, it's not just something that concerns rural France or the lower classes," he said.

The BBC's Lucy Williamson in Paris says the movement has grown via social media into a broad and public criticism of Mr Macron's economic policies.

Are opposition politicians involved?
They have certainly tried to tap into it. Far-right leader Marine Le Pen, who was defeated by Mr Macron in the second round of the presidential election, has been encouraging it on Twitter.

She said: "The government shouldn't be afraid of French people who come to express their revolt and do it in a peaceful fashion."

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Laurent Wauquiez, leader of the centre-right Republicans, called on the Macron government to scrap the next planned increase in carbon tax on fossil fuels in January to offset rising vehicle fuel prices.

Mr Castaner has described Saturday's action as a "political protest with the Republicans behind it".

Olivier Faure, leader of the left-wing Socialist Party said the movement - which has no single leader and is not linked to any trade union - had been "born outside political parties".

"People want politicians to listen to them and respond. Their demand is to have purchasing power and financial justice," he said.

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Is there any room for compromise?
On Wednesday, the government announced action to help poor families pay their energy and transport bills.

Prime Minister Edouard Philippe announced that 5.6 million households would receive energy subsidies. Currently 3.6 million receive them.

A state scrappage bonus on polluting vehicles would also be doubled for France's poorest families, he said, and fuel tax credits would be brought in for people who depend on their cars for work.

Protesters have mocked the president relentlessly as "Micron" or "Macaron" (Macaroon) or simply Manu, the short form of Emmanuel, which he famously scolded a student for using.

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To be honest, I don't blame the driver at all.
 
Lot of lies by omission in those last 5 sentences. Note they say it's just Macron's economic policies getting protested, even though every single week I can find tweets and videos of large groups of French protestors burning the EU flag and chanting "Frexit." And of course the one guy who shit talked some philosopher means the entire movement is now magically Hitler's storm troopers reincarnated. The size of these protests in numerous cities flies in the face of "ebbing support." I guarantee these would be (and probably were) the same outlets that said Trump's presidential campaign was at "the beginning of the end" every single week in the run up to the 2016 election.
 
This is a forum where we communicate with text, like internet god intended! Not through audio-visual bullshit!

Why don't you guys just post a simple link to Styx's podcast or vlog or whatever, and a short description as to why it's relevant, instead of jamming a dirty hippy in my face all the time?
 
Lot of lies by omission in those last 5 sentences. Note they say it's just Macron's economic policies getting protested, even though every single week I can find tweets and videos of large groups of French protestors burning the EU flag and chanting "Frexit." And of course the one guy who shit talked some philosopher means the entire movement is now magically Hitler's storm troopers reincarnated. The size of these protests in numerous cities flies in the face of "ebbing support." I guarantee these would be (and probably were) the same outlets that said Trump's presidential campaign was at "the beginning of the end" every single week in the run up to the 2016 election.

In France, a pretty popular opinion atm is that the EU should've remained a customs' union.
The thing that pisses French people off is the immigration quotas and that whole ecology / save the planet bs. Not the freedom for you and your goods to travel across the EU without being stopped for visas and being taxed to hell respectively.
All these "Frexit" and nationalist chants are really all about immigration and those dumb "save the planet, go green" policies that are terrible for low to middle class incomes.

And tbh, it's really hard to disagree with them. The original purpose of the EU was to tie France and Germany's Coal and Steel economies together to make another war extremely costly. It was first and foremost an economic customs' union, which does sound very attractive.
Pretty sure a lot of the countries, not just France or the UK, wouldn't have joined if they'd known that the EU was going to dictate their ecological transitions and how many fake Syrian immigrants they must take in.
 
There was a good chunk of "green" being pitched when the EU was forming too. Getting everyone to adopt "Earth First" was one of the ways the elite figured they could make everyone abandon their national identity and adopt a Pan-European one in the span of one generation, two maximum, if they cared, really cared, about Mother Earth, they'd surely align for whatever political body made the biggest deal about how much they really liked clean air! Continent-wide environmental law would be a net gain for everyone, it would be impossible for one nation to pollute up all it's neighbors if they agreed on one common policy, and increased ease of crossing borders would make high-speed rail more attractive and people could just ditch their cars and use those for anything that was longer than a bike ride.... I remember it well, because when all our old 70's-era language textbooks with black and white photos and boring translation tables were replaced with shiny new ones, they not only had color pictures, but, suddenly, a lot of tables that told you how to say such important things as: "Bicycles don't pollute!" and "Work for the trees, not the factories!" (I kid you not) There was a whole chapter devoted to the EU and how it was as big a part of the culture of Europe as the language itself and you HAD to know about it or you'd never be able to appreciate French, or German.

I was extremely skeptical it wouldn't become the back door through which social engineering would take place under the guise of banning things that would "help the planet" or become a source of taxes that the poor wouldn't have to pay, and the rich could lawyer their way around, but the middle-class would get hit with the full brunt of (massive increases in the cost of consumer goods, gas and housing because it would contain "green" taxes that would never trickle back to them. )

And that's just what happened.

But you are right that moving on from that and into "Oh, you have to take immigrants, even if they come from Islamist hellholes and have been caught setting up sleeper cells for terrorist organizations, because they surely can't ALL be that way!" territory is what has fatally sunk any trust in the EU.

Regulations are irksome, and not being able to get a straw with your drink a nuisance, but neither of those will shoot you dead as you eat your meal like repeated terrorist attacks have done or slowly tank your economy as the value of your labor is driven down by hordes of African 'refugees' who will work for nothing.
 
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In other French news, there's a media shit storm about the biggest French sportswear brand (think Wallmart but for every kind of sport) deciding to release a "running hijab" for religious Muslim women to jog without offending Allah.

Following the outrage (mostly fuelled by the same anti-EU / immigrants rhetoric), they brand decided to abandon that project. For now.

Decathlon cancels sports hijab sale in France

French sportswear retailer Decathlon has scrapped plans to sell a hijab for women runners in France following a public outcry.
The firm said it had decided to suspend the product following "a wave of insults" and "unprecedented threats".
French politicians said the "running hijab" contradicted the country's secular values, and some lawmakers suggested a boycott of the brand.
Decathlon initially stood by the hijab, which is already for sale in Morocco.
The issues of how Muslim women dress in public has often stoked controversy in France.

"We are making the decision... to not market this product in France at this time," Decathlon spokesman Xavier Rivoire told RTL radio on Tuesday.
He had earlier told AFP news agency that the initial decision was to "make sport accessible for all women in the world".

The plain, lightweight headscarf, which covers the hair and not the face, was to go on sale in 49 countries from March.
Sports equipment manufacturer Nike has marketed a sports hijab in France since 2017.

Buckling under pressure

The French-owned company said it had received 500 calls and emails to complain about its "running hijab", with some of its staff in stores being insulted, and even physically threatened.
Health Minister Agnès Buzyn told RTL that although such a product is not prohibited in France, "it's a vision of women that I don't share. I would prefer if a French brand did not promote the headscarf".
The spokeswoman for President Emmanuel Macron's La République en Marche party Aurore Bergé also weighed in on the issue on Twitter, suggesting a boycott.
"My choice as a woman and citizen will be to no longer put my trust in a brand that breaks away from our values," she said.
Replying to Ms Bergé on Twitter, Decathlon said: "Our goal is simple: to offer [women who run with an often unsuitable hijab] an adapted sport product, without judgement."
Later, the sporting goods giant said it wanted to restore peace after the "violent" reaction "went beyond our desire to meet the needs of our customers".

France and Islamic clothing

France argues any outward religious symbol, such as the veil, does not maintain the appearance of neutrality required of students and public sector workers under the country's strict laws for secularism.
The Muslim headscarf is allowed in public spaces in France, but has been banned in state schools and some public buildings since 2004.

In 2016, multiple French regions banned the burkini - a full-body swimsuit - from its beaches. The bans were later ruled illegal by France's highest court.

These bans led rights groups of accusing France of Islamophobia and stigmatising Muslim women, after already banning full-face coverings in 2010.
Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47380058

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In other French news, there's a media shit storm about the biggest French sportswear brand (think Wallmart but for every kind of sport) deciding to release a "running hijab" for religious Muslim women to jog without offending Allah.

Following the outrage (mostly fuelled by the same anti-EU / immigrants rhetoric), they brand decided to abandon that project. For now.


Source : https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-47380058

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By the way here's the video of that cop car that got shit thrown at it, complete with the stronk independent woman driver crying about it.
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I still have zero sympathy after what they've been doing to non-violent protestors week after week. Also that hollowed out bread at 0:16 makes me chuckle for some reason.
 
I still have zero sympathy after what they've been doing to non-violent protestors week after week. Also that hollowed out bread at 0:16 makes me chuckle for some reason.

In the ordinary course of things, I'm not one of these "Fuck the po-leeeece" types. I think most cops, in most places, mostly try to do the right thing, most of the time.

The French police can, to a "man", get fucked after the last few months.

There aren't any actual men in the French police, as far as I can tell, though.
 
What could possibly have changed in France over the last few yearas that would cause a sudden spike of hate crimes against Jews?
 
It literally baffles me how the media are pulling a coordinated effort to silence the protests. Last saturday i checked on three different tv channels and all of them were sperging on how the GJ were fascists, racists and all the other -ists and how the movement was dead and only a few stubborn protesters remained. Then you go on the net and see videos of all the major cities on fire and thousands of people clashing with the police.

Seriously they make these huge protests look like your average post soccer match brawl
 
It literally baffles me how the media are pulling a coordinated effort to silence the protests. Last saturday i checked on three different tv channels and all of them were sperging on how the GJ were fascists, racists and all the other -ists and how the movement was dead and only a few stubborn protesters remained. Then you go on the net and see videos of all the major cities on fire and thousands of people clashing with the police.

Seriously they make these huge protests look like your average post soccer match brawl

It's because it's the working class. The media is actually terrified of Les Gilets Jaunes.
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2eMigYJ4FY - statue adorned with yellow vest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI9TxBQ20XM - Highlights Montepellier
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f3Wk9BXw1I - Someone got shot in the head with a "defensive ball" again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCkT0rF3ZcQ - watercannons in paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FOpqWlFWms - Dax at night
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTWJBQtlo_g - 10h stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH8xcXnmlGk - protestors sitting in a metroline stairway getting sprayed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-7_73t1aVs - woman provoking police response in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMI3KFV18w - teargas and more in Nantes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUV1OgXF5oc - police beating on woman in Toulouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ8UVgUJqrc - Guy in electric wheelchair provoking police, gets peppersprayed. Toulouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZd0Es1zLvI - Highlights Lille
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj3ReK_hc2Y - 360 degree vid near standard french police blockade Toulouse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMI3KFV18w&feature=youtu.be&t=7023 Someone got shot in the balls too
 
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