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While I'm here, I'll mention that all of LawTube is wrong on the MMA chick vs Disney.

The "California civil rights law" is the Unruh act, and California courts have repeatedly ruled that it basically only applies to discrimination against fags, and Communists.
 
AttorneyTom is expecting a baby girl.
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I'm watching Runkle's stream and he's talking to Ari about her lawsuit with Taylor Lorenz and he mentioned that he had done a show called "Trials of the Century" with other people and cut them off once he found out that person is toxic. I remember him doing this with Law and Lumber and one other person. The chat mentioned that person being 'SC'. I looked into the early episodes further and it seems to be a guy called Scott Cardinal. He has his own channel called strange history X, I think? Anyone know why Runkle called this guy toxic? I don't watch Runkle on the regular.

Edit: I think I found the story. I don't have the full context but I think they knew someone dying (nicknamed secret) that didn't want their story to be made into content but Scott Cardinal did it anyway so Runkle cancelled the show and cut ties with Scott.
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Chirping Smoke Detector said:
Kurt did a cooking stream a month ago and someone clipped a part of it where he's applying icy hot to his back. It's not a good look when he applies it. It happens about 59:30 in.

The video:
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The stream:

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Retink Retunk said:
Jesus fuck, I was here to find something else but this is a horror movie in a scene.
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Laughed so hard at this. Forgot what thread I had even clicked into, read something about a horror movie scene, didn’t read the post with the clip, played clip & was caught unaware by what was even going on.
 
Pippa's Greasy KB said:
I'm watching Runkle's stream and he's talking to Ari about her lawsuit with Taylor Lorenz and he mentioned that he had done a show called "Trials of the Century" with other people and cut them off once he found out that person is toxic. I remember him doing this with Law and Lumber and one other person. The chat mentioned that person being 'SC'. I looked into the early episodes further and it seems to be a guy called Scott Cardinal. He has his own channel called strange history X, I think? Anyone know why Runkle called this guy toxic? I don't watch Runkle on the regular.

Edit: I think I found the story. I don't have the full context but I think they knew someone dying (nicknamed secret) that didn't want their story to be made into content but Scott Cardinal did it anyway so Runkle cancelled the show and cut ties with Scott.
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The person they're talking about was SecretMcSquirrel who was a mod in a lot of Lawtube chats.
 
Pippa's Greasy KB said:
I'm watching Runkle's stream and he's talking to Ari about her lawsuit with Taylor Lorenz and he mentioned that he had done a show called "Trials of the Century" with other people and cut them off once he found out that person is toxic. I remember him doing this with Law and Lumber and one other person. The chat mentioned that person being 'SC'. I looked into the early episodes further and it seems to be a guy called Scott Cardinal. He has his own channel called strange history X, I think? Anyone know why Runkle called this guy toxic? I don't watch Runkle on the regular.

Edit: I think I found the story. I don't have the full context but I think they knew someone dying (nicknamed secret) that didn't want their story to be made into content but Scott Cardinal did it anyway so Runkle cancelled the show and cut ties with Scott.
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I've also heard stories of this guy being very inappropriate with female fans of his. Nothing too specific but just him soliciting nudes and then holding those over their heads if they try to break it off.
 
Chirping Smoke Detector said:
Kurt did a cooking stream a month ago and someone clipped a part of it where he's applying icy hot to his back. It's not a good look when he applies it. It happens about 59:30 in.

The video:
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Why?

Anticipointment said:
Laughed so hard at this. Forgot what thread I had even clicked into, read something about a horror movie scene, didn’t read the post with the clip, played clip & was caught unaware by what was even going on.
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I feel like there must be a lot of unclipped gems from his streams.
 
Balldo's Gate said:
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You'd think a dude obsessed with finding a wife wouldn't do things like this on camera, and yet...
Balldo's Gate said:
I feel like there must be a lot of unclipped gems from his streams.
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I'd check out his cooking streams. From what I've seen he usually engages with chat about his personal life during those and shows off the horrendous meals he makes.
 

I'm sure it's elsewhere on KF, but thought I'd stick a clean post in the quiet Lawtube thread.

Potentially Criminal/Sean Martin livestreamed the Steve Quest vs Nick Rekieta Oral Arguments Minnesota Court of Appeals Hearing today to assess Marc Randazza's appeal that the District Court improperly ignored his request to use Colorado anti-SLAPP provisions in Montagraph's defamation claim brought against Nick in Minnesota.

The first part of the Zoom stream fucked up due to technical issues, so the opening part of the relatively short hearing was missed.

Sean was named specifically in the first paragraph of David Schneider's filings, Montagraph's lawyer. So he could potentially be called as a witness. Hence he doesn't want to opine on the actual facts of the defamation case, but felt he could cover the Appeals Court hearing today because it's only arbitrating jurisdiction and laws, not any facts of the case.

Winning Reality, a D-tier Rekieta orbiter from a few years ago streamsniped Sean's coverage with belated consent from his Discord.

Nick wasn't in court and wasn't expected to be. Neither was Randazza, as he lives on the West Coast.

Sean commented that the 3 judges seemed to give more credence to Randazza's claims that Montagraph was forum shopping than he anticipated. It wasn't Schneider himself present today. I believe it was a new counsel named Chris Bowman, possibly hired with Quest's GSG monies. One judge repeatedly asked Bowman why Montagraph wasn't filing "in his own backyard" in Colorado as is customary. His lawyer seemed possibly underprepared and wasn't as good an orator as Randazza. He didn't have a concise answer to the query despite it being asked several times.

Sean was quite deferential to Montagraph's counsel and said the decision doesn't always reflect the optics in the court. In general, the consensus seemed to be that Randazza was smooth while Bowman was stilted. From the portions of the hearing actually broadcasted, the panel of judges seemed to be much more interested in asking pointed questions of Quest's side.

Null was in Sean's chat and invited himself on as a guest after things wrapped up. (Timestamp 1:45:58 - courtesy of ben13uk)

Nothing particularly revelatory, other than Josh previewing that he is making his own secret and humorous filing later this week.

While Josh was on stream, there was a fake Ethan Ralph in the chat. Null left, and subsequently the real Ethan Ralph came on stream (timestamp 2:22:18 ) with Sean as well, as Sean somehow ended up sending an invite to the real Gunt.

Ralph was completely uninformed and uninterested in the Montagraph hearings. He mostly took polite but passive aggressive jabs at Sean regarding his occasional Rekieta mocking on his streams. Ralph did quite a bit of noseguarding, along with lots of lamenting and self-pity regarding the tribulations of streaming, being a public figure and alogs. He also repeatedly tried to get Sean to comment on allegations that Null ran a chan board for pedos before KF.

Sean, similar to his Nick screaming struggle sessions, mostly played it meek and neutral.

Sean did mention that he's at least attempted correspondence with Nick several times since his struggle session, as late as this past week with the John stuff. He didn't confirm though whether he's received any replies.

Sean mentioned at least twice that he genuinely hopes the best for Nick. He acknowledged Nick's fall from grace over the last year. Ralph specifically corrected the record saying that Nick doesn't need a redemption arc because there's no "redemption" required.

Ralph asked Sean what his advice would be to Nick to pull himself out of this "non-redemption" redemption. Sean acknowledged that Nick's content has changed and that Rekieta doesn't enjoy the old legal stuff. Sean also acknowledged that Nick's current varied content is unpopular and "no one is interested in hearing Nick talk about relationships".

Sean's boilerplate advice was for Nick to take a day or two off to self-reflect on what content he enjoys and actually wants to do.

Sean also opined with Ralph on Nick's recent John blowout. Ralph's take was that Rekieta was taking unfair heat because Capt Manning/John himself had made a public post with partial details of his crisis situation a few years ago in KF. And was posting shit in Nick's thread "20× a day".

Sean's more middle road take was that Nick expunged expounded more details in his drunken rant than was previously known in the public post. And even though it wasn't specifically a privileged solicitor-client relationship, Nick's public demonstration that he is unable to hold his liquor and keep private conversations in confidence effectively ruins his reputation as a trustworthy lawyer to future clients.
 
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Pippa's Greasy KB said:
Nick's current content is not varied. It's just last week's news no one was interested in read today.
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"Varied" is my paraphrasing and not Sean's. But I agree.

Sean did imply that Nick's content had changed, Balldo hates his old content and his new "relationship" content isn't popular.

I forget the exact phrasing though.

Another anecdote that Sean mentioned a few times is that he's reached out a several times to Nick, similar to @elb Elissa clips, to get Nick's blessing after doing some ribbing on stream. He implies that Nick gave him permission to continue the jokes with his own chat.

Potentially Criminal also made the weaksauce claim that he would stop mocking Nick on stream if Balldo asked him to.
 
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Dixieland Buckaroo said:
Randazza was the one arguing for Nick.
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I know Randazza is Nick's lawyer.

Was he physically there in the courtroom?

I was mostly listening to the hearing and missed the first part due to Sean's/Zoom's technical issues. I mostly heard the judges questioning Montagraph's counsel.

Sean mentioned before the hearing started that he/someone had called the courthouse this morning to ensure it was being broadcast. Apparently the clerk told said it was being recorded but their custom is to cut off the public live feed if all parties are present in the courtroom.

Sean was worried that it wouldn't end up being broadcast, but assumed it would still need to be since Randazza was unlikely to be present in person.

Apparently Potentially Criminal's backup plan was to cover the archived feed once it was uploaded after 5 pm CST, because he had checked on previous recent cases uploaded.

As an aside, I noticed during Sean's technical problems that notorious local Rackets crazed alog Terry Nemmers of Lion News was also logged in as a viewer.
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
I know Randazza is Nick's lawyer.

Was he physically there in the courtroom?

I was mostly listening to the hearing and missed the first part due to Sean's/Zoom's technical issues. I mostly heard the judges questioning Montagraph's counsel.

Sean mentioned before the hearing started that he/someone had called the courthouse this morning to ensure it was being broadcast. Apparently the clerk told said it was being recorded but their custom is to cut off the public live feed if all parties are present in the courtroom.

Sean was worried that it wouldn't end up being broadcast, but assumed it would still need to be since Randazza was unlikely to be present in person.

Apparently Potentially Criminal's backup plan was to cover the archived feed once it was uploaded after 5 pm CST, because he had checked on previous recent cases uploaded.

As an aside, I noticed during Sean's technical problems that notorious local Rackets crazed alog Terry Nemmers of Lion News was also logged in as a viewer.
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Yes, Randazza was in the court speaking for Rekieta. The first thing he does on the record (audio is up and Elissa has posted sync'd to video) is introduce himself. It was also clear from the video that is was Marc.
 
Dixieland Buckaroo said:
Yes, Randazza was in the court speaking for Rekieta. The first thing he does on the record (audio is up and Elissa has posted sync'd to video) is introduce himself. It was also clear from the video that is was Marc.
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Thanks, I must've missed that part somehow.

There was lots of technical issues at the beginning of the stream and I was mostly listening.

TBH, I barely remember hearing Randazza at all and mostly recall Monty's lawyer being grilled and umming & aahing his way through.
 
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
Nick wasn't in court and wasn't expected to be. Neither was Randazza, as he lives on the West Coast.
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Randazza was definitely there. I watched it live. So was his co-counsel. And by that I mean physically there in the courtroom, which means Nick probably had to pay for first-class round-trip tickets for both of them as well as their hotels, maybe even their food if Randazza was feeling particularly Judaic.

Fun fact, Monty's counsel is a bit of a manlet, and when Randazza took over for rebuttal after him, he had to raise the podium.
Mordecai 3 Finger Brown said:
TBH, I barely remember hearing Randazza at all and mostly recall Monty's lawyer being grilled and umming & aahing his way through.
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Yes, he was definitely much less polished in his presentation than Randazza. To be fair, they also really grilled him hard, probably because he hadn't presented his case well.

Randazza was cool as a cucumber even when they did throw him a hard question, though.
 
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