Science Lady Lex Found - US Carrier lost in battle of Coral Sea. Thanks Paul Allen

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https://arstechnica.com/information...nken-uss-lexington-2-miles-down-in-coral-sea/

I really love history esp military stuff, I had lost a family member on another ship that Paul Allen helped find.

Paul Allen, the co-founder of Microsoft, has put his money into many passion pursuits. Underwater archaeology—specifically, finding ships sunk during World War II—is one of the most prominent. Last August, Allen's research vessel Petrel discovered the wreckage of the USSIndianapolis, the cruiser that delivered components of the two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan to close the war. A 2015 Allen expedition on his personal yacht Octopus recovered a bell from the HMS Hood, the Royal Navy cruiser sunk by the German battleship Bismarck that led to the loss of over 1,400 men. The expedition also surveyed the wrecks of "Ironbottom Sound" off Guadalcanal—the site of massive losses by the Allied navies during the long battle for that island.

Now, the Petrel has located the USS Lexington—the aircraft carrier that, along with the USSYorktown, fought the first-ever carrier duel with the Imperial Japanese Navy in the Battle of the Coral Sea.

The Petrel located the Lexington's wreck with a Hydroid Remus 6000 drone submersible, an autonomous underwater vehicle equipped for searching large areas of seabed and rated for operations at 6,000 meters (3.7 miles). With its side-scan sonar, the Remus 6000 is capable of mapping over 100 square kilometers per deployment. The Petrel's Remus is the only privately owned AUV of its type in the world—others are operated by various navies and research institutions. An Argus 6000 remotely operated submersible was used to inspect the wreck visually.

Video from the Petrel's Remus 6000 autonomous underwater vessel.
The damage dealt by the Lexington's and Yorktown's aircraft to the Japanese carrier Shōkaku, the decimation of the air wing of the carrier Zuikaku, and the sinking of the light carrier Shōhō would change the direction of the war, weakening Japan's naval air power just before the Battle of Midway. The battle also preempted a Japanese invasion of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, which would have allowed Japan to attack eastern Australia.


Bombed and torpedoed multiple times, the Lexington was still afloat. But when fires caused by the bombing reached the Lexington's aircraft fuel stores and burned out of control, the ship had to be abandoned, and the destroyer USS Phelps was ordered to scuttle the ship with torpedoes. It took five to do the job because two torpedoes, including one located by the crew of the Petrel, were duds. The crew abandoned ship, but the Lexington went down with 35 aircraft aboard, settling to the bottom of the ocean two miles beneath the surface; 216 crewmembers died during the fight.

Images from the Argus 6000 ROV show the Lexington and some of its aircraft in amazingly good condition after 76 years (or at least good condition for a ship that was deliberately sunk with torpedoes). Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters bearing the "Felix the Cat" logo of the VF-3 Navy fighter squadron (now carried on by the Navy's VF-31) were visible, as were Dauntless TBD Devastator dive bombers.

Listing image by Paul Allen / Getty Images

The ship herself :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lexington_(CV-2)
Battle she was lost in :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea

She went down like a lady with her head held high. I'm glad those who were lost didn't die in vain and we have found the ship they served on.
 
https://arstechnica.com/information...nken-uss-lexington-2-miles-down-in-coral-sea/

I really love history esp military stuff, I had lost a family member on another ship that Paul Allen helped find.

Paul Allen, the co-founder of Microsoft, has put his money into many passion pursuits. Underwater archaeology—specifically, finding ships sunk during World War II—is one of the most prominent. Last August, Allen's research vessel Petrel discovered the wreckage of the USSIndianapolis, the cruiser that delivered components of the two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan to close the war. A 2015 Allen expedition on his personal yacht Octopus recovered a bell from the HMS Hood, the Royal Navy cruiser sunk by the German battleship Bismarck that led to the loss of over 1,400 men. The expedition also surveyed the wrecks of "Ironbottom Sound" off Guadalcanal—the site of massive losses by the Allied navies during the long battle for that island.

Now, the Petrel has located the USS Lexington—the aircraft carrier that, along with the USSYorktown, fought the first-ever carrier duel with the Imperial Japanese Navy in the Battle of the Coral Sea.

The Petrel located the Lexington's wreck with a Hydroid Remus 6000 drone submersible, an autonomous underwater vehicle equipped for searching large areas of seabed and rated for operations at 6,000 meters (3.7 miles). With its side-scan sonar, the Remus 6000 is capable of mapping over 100 square kilometers per deployment. The Petrel's Remus is the only privately owned AUV of its type in the world—others are operated by various navies and research institutions. An Argus 6000 remotely operated submersible was used to inspect the wreck visually.

Video from the Petrel's Remus 6000 autonomous underwater vessel.
The damage dealt by the Lexington's and Yorktown's aircraft to the Japanese carrier Shōkaku, the decimation of the air wing of the carrier Zuikaku, and the sinking of the light carrier Shōhō would change the direction of the war, weakening Japan's naval air power just before the Battle of Midway. The battle also preempted a Japanese invasion of Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea, which would have allowed Japan to attack eastern Australia.


Bombed and torpedoed multiple times, the Lexington was still afloat. But when fires caused by the bombing reached the Lexington's aircraft fuel stores and burned out of control, the ship had to be abandoned, and the destroyer USS Phelps was ordered to scuttle the ship with torpedoes. It took five to do the job because two torpedoes, including one located by the crew of the Petrel, were duds. The crew abandoned ship, but the Lexington went down with 35 aircraft aboard, settling to the bottom of the ocean two miles beneath the surface; 216 crewmembers died during the fight.

Images from the Argus 6000 ROV show the Lexington and some of its aircraft in amazingly good condition after 76 years (or at least good condition for a ship that was deliberately sunk with torpedoes). Grumman F4F Wildcat fighters bearing the "Felix the Cat" logo of the VF-3 Navy fighter squadron (now carried on by the Navy's VF-31) were visible, as were Dauntless TBD Devastator dive bombers.

Listing image by Paul Allen / Getty Images

The ship herself :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Lexington_(CV-2)
Battle she was lost in :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Coral_Sea

She went down like a lady with her head held high. I'm glad those who were lost didn't die in vain and we have found the ship they served on.
Alright, this is some neat shit right here. As someone who also loves history, my eyes light up when something gets found.
 
Here's the photo:
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The aircraft are remarkably well preserved considering 70+ years of immersion in salt water. The paint job looks almost brand new.
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The aircraft are remarkably well preserved considering 70+ years of immersion in salt water. The paint job looks almost brand new.
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That's what amazed me too, I'm guessing for the planes it was the aluminum material were made from? Because if you look at the interior and engine bits they're pretty corroded and have sea life chilling on them compared to the plane skin and glass.

For the rest of the ship it looks in relatively decent shape as well. Probably has to do with the metal used and the advances in metallurgy compared to a ship like the Titanic which was covered in really thick corrosion and rust when it was found.
 
That's what amazed me too, I'm guessing for the planes it was the aluminum material were made from? Because if you look at the interior and engine bits they're pretty corroded and have sea life chilling on them compared to the plane skin and glass.

For the rest of the ship it looks in relatively decent shape as well. Probably has to do with the metal used and the advances in metallurgy compared to a ship like the Titanic which was covered in really thick corrosion and rust when it was found.
You can even see the Japanese flag kill markings on the first plane, the paint is in such great shape. I'm guessing it helps that the paint was likely originally waterproofed against salt water, to further guard against rust.
 
You can even see the Japanese flag kill markings on the first plane, the paint is in such great shape. I'm guessing it helps that the paint was likely originally waterproofed against salt water, to further guard against rust.

He was one victory short of being an ace....

The F-4F Wildcats also show the early-war US insignia that had a red dot in the middle that was deleted to avoid confusion w/ IJN aircraft, for obvious reasons. The dot-less star and roundrel has carried on unchanged as the identifier of US aircraft to the present day.
 
I like noticing how preserved the Felix insignia is here!
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What's up with them finding lost ships all of a sudden? First the Indianapolis and now the Lexington.
 
What's up with them finding lost ships all of a sudden? First the Indianapolis and now the Lexington.

Improvements in technology. The only way to find these wrecks is to tow a scanning sonar equipped drone behind a ship back and forth over an area where you think it is for days on end like sweeping a gigantic thousand-square-mile rug.

That takes a LOT of time, and money.

The ability for the sensors to "hit" on their targets from further and further away means it's not so tedious an endeavor as it used to be.
 
Meh, the Big E is still the boss CVA to me

The Lex went down due to her own crews mistake, not the best way to end up

War is a democracy and the enemy gets to vote too. Naval ships need to go into battle knowing full well they could get sunk in the process. Sometimes it may even be necessary to sacrifice ships to accomplish the overall objective. The Lexington accomplished its mission in that it halted the Japanese advance down the south pacific and prevented the possibility of an invasion of Northern Australia. She also stayed afloat long enough for her crew to get off. So that counts as a success in naval combat. She did what she was built to do.
 
Back when we made better animation than the Japs. Fast-forward thirty years later in the 70s...
Can't argue that American cartoons of the 70's were absolute shit.
 
Don't romamarize the past

The Lexington went down because the crew failed to drain the aviation gas lines making an otherwise minor bomb hit into a unrecoverable inferno.

The Lex should have been available for the Midway battle but wasn't because of the mistakes made.

Her loss was a major blow at the worst possible time. Trading a fleet CVA for a few extra days of delay isn't a win no matter how revisionists try to twist it.

I hate to rant but as a non American it drives me nuts to see how much the past gets twisted by military fanbois.
 
Improvements in technology. The only way to find these wrecks is to tow a scanning sonar equipped drone behind a ship back and forth over an area where you think it is for days on end like sweeping a gigantic thousand-square-mile rug.

I think Paul Allen was probably really into Minesweeper.
 
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