La Palma is rumbling - What are the implications of a 40 foot Tsunami along the east coast?
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Whatever economic value volcanic ash has is far outweighed by how much it's going to cost to clear the town of it.
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Well, it's better your shit is destroyed by something has value. Always look on the bright side of life you doomposting misery guts
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I think it simultaneously works as a pesticide and a fertilizer. I don't know how it compares to wood ash, but homesteaders use the ash from their wood burners as fertilizer. This is the main reason why people live on volcanic islands. Past eruptions make the soil fertile as a fuck.
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Yes, past eruptions, which came down long ago, long enough for opportunist plants and microbes to begin changing ash into soil. If you try to farm on an ash field that came down in your lifetime, you're going to have a bad time.
It's like making a pile of diatomaceous earth, potash, and urea, planting a row of corn in it, and wondering where it all went wrong. Not to mention ash fields usually erode very quickly. There's some very cool and very hostile terrain in Alaska that's what became of an ash field from about a century ago.
Ash on an isolated island isn't worth the money it would take to dig it up and package it for sale to organic gardeners, not that you'd be able to find enough people to buy all the ash covering the towns and fields.
Best you can really do is try to dig out your valuables that aren't ruined, take what disaster relief money you can get, and live somewhere new.
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There is alot of Gold and other precious metals.
Most Gold Veins/deposits are just very ancient lava flows
But immediately after eruption its hard to seperate the debris from the gold. Over millions of years Nature does it was groundwater and erosion and leave the nuggets but wash the bullshit away. Not sure how easily it can be processed right after eruption.
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Fwiw. Ash sells for £1000/ton on alibaba. So maybe the islanders could flog it at £600/ton. Its a healthy bit of money to help with the recovery.
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For real?
That is actually pretty profitable if you invest in a digger and the buyer pays for shipping to whereever. Your Rate of Return is pretty quick assuming the digger doesn't break down
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Transport fees to get the ash off the island would quickly eat into the profits. Especially with how fucked supply chains are right now. I don't think you'd be able to compete with other producers especially if they have a more favorable location to ship from.
Not saying it's impossible to turn a profit, but I don't think you'd be able to do it on a wide of enough scale to become wildly successful.
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Well I assumed the buyer was paying for shipping it out and all i had to do was drive it to port
Plus you know if its on Alibaba its shitty ash mixed with ciggarrette ash or something because Chinese companies love doing shit like that.
You could probably charge double in an actual market
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Passing the cost of transport to the customer is standard practice, but it still affects the price you're able to charge. It's why everything is so expensive in Hawaii. If someone can afford to ship at a lower cost they can undercut your rate and basically make it impossible for you to profit at all. None of this is absolute and as you touch on in your second post (perceived quality of your product, how well you market the product) there are a wide variety of extenuating circumstances that could affect your final profit.
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Bushcraft Bear’s daylight vid. They apparently call last nights massive wave of lava a “lava tsunami” not the big ocean tsunami.
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Why on Earth would someone pay a thousand dollars a ton for ash, even accounting for the inherent expenses involved in collecting and transporting it?
I'm looking at alibaba and the prices per ton I see are far lower than that. Somewhere between $80 and $220 a ton.
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For reference, that's not that much more expensive than gravel.
I'm looking at alibaba and the prices per ton I see are far lower than that. Somewhere between $80 and $220 a ton.
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For reference, that's not that much more expensive than gravel.
In just a few million years, this is really gonna pay off!
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The stuff that's going on in the harbour that he doesn't understand is the construction of a desalination plant to provide water for banana farms that have been cut off from their old supply by the lava flows.
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Massive flow of lava
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Maybe the eruption ends up like Monteserrate and half the island becomes unihabitable.
Entire cities had to relocate in the 1990's as the southern part of the island was slowly covered in Lava and the volcano never stopped erupting. Still is erupting today. Lots of Cities got wrecked including the islands capital
Word is we got a second vent exactly where i have been saying and its a bigun and a smoke belcher!!!!
Man I am pretty good at this!!
That means the odds of a collapse of that flank just increased by alot!!!
For those curouis, here is my prediction 2 weeks ago based on Earthquake data
Now here is big part. If the earthquakes continue and migrate further south you may get more and more vents popping up ovevr the next few months
All eyes on EQ data
Updated, What I think we will be talking about at around thanksgiving
Entire cities had to relocate in the 1990's as the southern part of the island was slowly covered in Lava and the volcano never stopped erupting. Still is erupting today. Lots of Cities got wrecked including the islands capital
Word is we got a second vent exactly where i have been saying and its a bigun and a smoke belcher!!!!
Man I am pretty good at this!!
That means the odds of a collapse of that flank just increased by alot!!!
For those curouis, here is my prediction 2 weeks ago based on Earthquake data
Now here is big part. If the earthquakes continue and migrate further south you may get more and more vents popping up ovevr the next few months
All eyes on EQ data
Updated, What I think we will be talking about at around thanksgiving
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So what's the peak amount of lava flow we can achieve without sacrificing the comfy lava video streams?
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If there is a single square foot of un-lava'd earth and we don't have a stream, I will be deeply disappointed by the geological autists of the Canaries.