Kiwis in White-Collar MGMT - Upgraded from “wage cage” to “salary galley”

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Pargon

Pargon

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Kiwis who help run shit, how do you cope?

There’s some serious shit on the horizon; I just had four people on a remote team of six threaten to quit on a “back to office” call if they’re compelled to come in two days a week. Now I’m the asshole eating the shit sandwich, enforcing something I vehemently disagree withx and now faced with reviewing four separate HR reports, and potentially filling in four positions if all these people quit. White collars are straight not having it.

Can’t I just go back to data entry
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I don't get why anybody in a management position would put up with this shit. Don't let four little lazy niggers who cant be bothered to show up in person for two days out of the week make you feel like shit.
 
SyntheticAdrenaline KAJ said:
I don't get why anybody in a management position would put up with this shit. Don't let four little lazy niggers who cant be bothered to show up in person for two days out of the week make you feel like shit.
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#1 is black
#2 is “neurodivergent”
#3 is an upper management’s spouse
#4 is muslim
All are women

I don’t stand a chance, homie
 
Damn, white collar sucks! You have to go to work for  two days? Unbelievable, it's over for white-collarcels.... Blue collar wins again! Hold on, I just slipped a disk from a 60 hour work week hand digging a trench 75 miles from home because I am retarded.

On a serious note, is this really a big contentious thing in white collar? I'd love to work from home as much as anyone else, but is two days really that big of a deal?
 
CrackPipeCowboy said:
On a serious note, is this really a big contentious thing in white collar? I'd love to work from home as much as anyone else, but is two days really that big of a deal?
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As someone who used to drive an hour each way to do shit clerk work 5 days a week, no. I have very little sympathy for them, especially the ones who live in the adjoining town ( > 10 miles away)
KneeGrow said:
Tell the whiners you’ll hire jeets in their place.
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I think that’d be trading one problem for another. At least the current employees don’t reek.
 
Pargon said:
especially the ones who live in the adjoining town ( > 10 miles away)
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This is crazy to think about this considering that blue collar, even the ones who are de facto white collar general contractors in job trailer offices, has you traveling anywhere across the state, or even the country.

Is the work environment that brutal? Is your office full of mold and toxic management?
 
CrackPipeCowboy said:
Is the work environment that brutal? Is your office full of mold and toxic management?
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No, quite the contrary. We have a brand new production/repair/administrative building. Low 9-figures. All the remote people are getting called back in because, and I swear this was the reason given on the call by upper management, the new CEO visited and thought there were too many empty desks.

This is a person who makes more in a year than I will for the remainder of my life if I stay with this company
 
CrackPipeCowboy said:
Damn, white collar sucks! You have to go to work for  two days? Unbelievable, it's over for white-collarcels.... Blue collar wins again! Hold on, I just slipped a disk from a 60 hour work week hand digging a trench 75 miles from home because I am retarded.

On a serious note, is this really a big contentious thing in white collar? I'd love to work from home as much as anyone else, but is two days really that big of a deal?
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it is a big contentious thing to the kind of people that 'work' in positions which are commonly derided as 'laptop caste' 'email job' 'jewish daycare' etc
the level of entitlement and attitude among these types can be fucking unreal
 
Left that world when I was told to hire Jeets. Made a stink about it then quit. Greener pastures. Actually working and building shit as an IC is far better for the soul. Went from existential terror every night to sleeping well.
 
The only thing that matters is holding onto your job.
Have you read each of their contracts and talked to HR/legal?
Let thine ass be covered.
 
Pargon said:
All the remote people are getting called back in because, and I swear this was the reason given on the call by upper management, the new CEO visited and thought there were too many empty desks.

This is a person who makes more in a year than I will for the remainder of my life if I stay with this company
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Sorry management is making you take the flak for this. I'm on the complainers' side (and yours) - they have a benefit (no commute time, no commute costs, work in your pajamas) that the CEO is taking away without providing anything in return.
 
Commander Suzdal said:
Sorry management is making you take the flak for this. I'm on the complainers' side (and yours) - they have a benefit (no commute time, no commute costs, work in your pajamas) that the CEO is taking away without providing anything in return.
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Goddamn right. And it’s such a benefit that we could lose these four, since their positions were grandfathered into remote, create new positions with remote work listed as an actual perk, drop the yearly by 8-10% and still attract reliable people. As if every keyboard warrior isn’t looking to drive less with all the fuckery going on. It’s so fucking myopic; it’s like being shortsighted and short-term-focused is necessary to be a corporate decision maker. It’s just such a joke to sacrifice that much for corporate culture, which sucks both on an individual and a conceptual level.
 
I mainly wfh now and if they made me go back to an office I’d quit.
Are the four decent workers?
 
Otterly said:
I mainly wfh now and if they made me go back to an office I’d quit.
Are the four decent workers?
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Only one of them is; the other three I regularly need to bail out. Part of it is them and part of it is the workload, but I can manage any two of theirs and stay caught up without pulling OT (or what used to be OT 🙃). It’s mostly going to suck covering that much workload while trying not to hire no-loads, if it comes to that
 
Pargon said:
Goddamn right. And it’s such a benefit that we could lose these four, since their positions were grandfathered into remote, create new positions with remote work listed as an actual perk, drop the yearly by 8-10% and still attract reliable people. As if every keyboard warrior isn’t looking to drive less with all the fuckery going on. It’s so fucking myopic; it’s like being shortsighted and short-term-focused is necessary to be a corporate decision maker. It’s just such a joke to sacrifice that much for corporate culture, which sucks both on an individual and a conceptual level.
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I'd bet my retirement the people making these decisions have corporate real estate making up a chunk of their portfolios.

Hiring sucks if you don't have a good Rolodex, you'll get 40,000 Jeet scam resumes to go thru and that's after the "people" in recruiting filter out the bad ones. Relatable pain.
 
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