💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

[Dammit Mandrake!]

'I don't associate with pedophiles' should be a very easy principle to uphold and yet they can't manage it.

It should be, but:

No.

Almost nobody can uphold principles.

 

[Esoteric Godwinsonism]

Edit: another point. These are all ANDYS friends. PPP doesn’t interact with these people the same way warski does. That’s not to say ppp is innocent, of course he’s not. But there is a huge difference between how the two present themselves online and its worth pointing out

PPP has more interaction with the pedopigs than DSP had with Derich. The only interaction DSP ever had with Derich is saying hello to him when he superchatted. DSP wasn't in any sort of private communication with him, and sure as hell never spent a second on him outside a stream. PPP has been going to Vegas orgies and having these people in his fucking house. DSP just shouting out Derich's username was enough for KC to corner him and collect superberries off. It's barely even worth pointing out that PPP doesn't game with the paypigs, because he's connected to them in much more serious ways. He's literally been in the same room as these men with their cocks out.

 

[Elmo]

But why does he call himself Metokur Masochist?

 

[Asian tech support]

But why does he call himself Metokur Masochist?

The unspeakable things he does to his wallet?

 

[Desktop User2]

Thing is, that's a very specific part of the audience man. Also what do you mean you don't know the angle i explained the angle multiple times. They are being measured by their own yardstick. And no i wouldn't say everyone is forever online from this site, or from the sweetie squad even. And definitely not this kind of forever online. Metokur didn't meet with his fans at Vegas, Josh never made an orgy with people from the forum. It's a different situation because we aren't talking about the wider audience but a very specific part of the audience that keeps these 2 people on life support or does collabs with em.

Like I said, if piggie was in Vegas with them or in a convo discussing all of her interests in anime kids, that would be noteworthy. Every show mainly depends on whales, specially in a tiny corner of the Internet like shitflinging drama addicts; donators for MATI are basically the same every stream for example. I just think this latest game of picking on the paypigs is retarded but to each their own. My only initial complaint was that it was not Community Feature worthy - many of us just surf that thread for interesting things and the effort post looked like digging for Reddit gold at minimum, gay op on DSP detractor style at worse, but I wont shun anyone digging on what they are interested in.

 

[Hostile Takeover]

PPP has more interaction with the pedopigs than DSP had with Derich. The only interaction DSP ever had with Derich is saying hello to him when he superchatted. DSP wasn't in any sort of private communication with him, and sure as hell never spent a second on him outside a stream. PPP has been going to Vegas orgies and having these people in his fucking house. DSP just shouting out Derich's username was enough for KC to corner him and collect superberries off. It's barely even worth pointing out that PPP doesn't game with the paypigs, because he's connected to them in much more serious ways. He's literally been in the same room as these men with their cocks out.

I disagree on DSP and Derich. The two had a bizarre relationship. Phil downplayed Derich when he was confronted by the Casino and Josh, but they were most likely in semi-regular email communication with each other. Hell, Phil even called his fucking cat Derich.

 

[Douglas Mortimer]

He's literally been in the same room as these men with their cocks out.

This is the main sticking point that seperates the typical parasocial whale and makes this far worse. Taking money from degen freaks is common place especially in this sphere. Becoming friendly enough to go on a Vegas vacation on the dime of said sicko? Not so much.

At this point there really is no way to sweep it up. PPP can hide the box of nails as long as he wants.

 

[Fat At The Internet]

That goes for every show in the Sektur. Every show is littered with degenerate freaks because their main audience is forever online people, just like this site, just like the sweetie squad, just like the Ralphamales. Every audience on Internet shitflinging debauchery is mostly comprised of antissocial retards; a whole bunch of their audience intersects ffs. I dont know what is the angle here but it stinks.

 

[Chazzed Up]

"Hey pedos exist in a lot of places, we should be cool with them being on kiwifarms"

The thing is, this site and especially the sektur portion of it have a substantial amount of overlap with places like /pol/. Depending on the board, 4chan ranges from liking anime girls to full-on advocating for lowering age of consent to like 14. Hard to say how much of the latter is fed ops to feed the incel narrative that adult women are all whores, but based on flags a lot of the people on that bus are nonwhite, like gypsies and Asians.

I remember a very long ways back, like 20 years ago, 4chan culture liked little anime girls but board culture was strict about not lewding them, especially their mascot. I'm not sure when that started to change. This site is basically /pol/ Lite in many areas so I would bet the change in attitudes is widespread. Especially the former Weeb Wars subforum. I remember being called every name in the book for thinking some Comicsgate guy was a socially inept weirdo for getting sexual with a 17 year old as a 40 year old man.

 

[Das Kätzchen]

They dont employ a confessed pedophile.

if you mean Rackets, they didn´t give cocaine to their daughters.

Yes, I did mean Nick Rekieta, I should've specified.
Re: Dax
They take money and play these retarded "oh, we totally cut this pedo off HE'S DISAVOWED but not really use a d-d-different account, buddy" games with a pedophile.
Re: Nick (R)
They're hypocrites and don't follow (quite easy to follow) rules they put up as righteous and proper.

Now, I do see your point (sure, giving cocaine to one's child is massively evil). However, consider this: when talking about retarded piles of shit, is it that important which one's bigger? IMO, practically, they're no different.
KC has no right to judge others, and namely the people I mentioned, WHILE THEY'RE FRIENDLY WITH PEDOPHILES. THEY ARE FRIENDS WITH PEDOPHILES I DON'T CARE WHO'S A LESSER PILE OF GARBAGE THEY CAN ALL BURN IN HELL.

 

[San Dimas High School]

The only interaction DSP ever had with Derich is saying hello to him when he superchatted. DSP wasn't in any sort of private communication with him,

lmao. No. DSP and derich emailed each other for 10 years, the entire time that he was outed as a legit pedo creep. derich made artwork for DSP that he used in his stream. DSP would accidentally call his cat (who he says often is his actual son) Derich. This is just nonsense.

Derich didn't even tip DSP for that entire time, gave him zero dollars. DSP never denounced derich, would bitch and moan that he had to delete him, and couldn't give a fuck if derich showed up with a fake name to tip him today, he'd like it.

 

[Chadmonk4421]

I have to imagine there are normal fans of the KC. I’m sure there’s some people out there who are completely normal that would hop into a game with Warski. The problem is we aren’t seeing that. Instead we’re seeing lolicon after lolicon, furfag after furfag, pedo after pedo after pedo get exposed. Warski LOVES having these people around him because they worship his every move. After the 3rd 4th 5th person to get outed you have to wonder what type of person befriends people like that.

Edit: another point. These are all ANDYS friends. PPP doesn’t interact with these people the same way warski does. That’s not to say ppp is innocent, of course he’s not. But there is a huge difference between how the two present themselves online and its worth pointing out

I think the question isn't why the audience seems to be full of freaks but if there even is such a thing as a normal 'paypig.' . I think looking at the problem this way it becomes clearer why Warski appears to surround himself with degenerates

I think for most of the viewers there’s a difference between casually supporting a creator with a monthly sub or a gumroad subscription, and the obsessive behavior of paypigs, who legitimately want to interject to hear a squeel.
I think Kino casino, just simply by branding themselves from the start as a casino, subconsciously reassembled the dynamic of a casino, they followed a real casino's model a model where whales/high rollers/paypigs get special treatment. This is probably why they stream so long, it's purposely a reward for the degenerates who would stay 15 + hours inside a casino. Normal viewers come and go, but the paypigs stick around, throwing money for the privilege of special access and attention.

I think looking at the stream as a whole in this analogy, it's that Warski's role is that of a drink girl. But unlike being a hot girl with her tits out, these people pay just to let Warski be Warski, after the real show, paypigs turn up to simply fund Warski's life. I'm not sure if Warsski has real-life friends, but if he does, tbh it makes sense on why he hasn't deep dived into his paypig friends. Warski can play his games, and hear someone who is paying him just to agree with him, then when Warski is done for the day log off and whatever real life he has outside the stream he goes back to.
IDK, i just think if I was 40 year olds, and people were willingly to pay me just for me to be myself, nothing required beyond occasionally lending my ears, I probably also wouldn't ask very many questions.

 

[Das Kätzchen]

I have to imagine there are normal fans of the KC. I’m sure there’s some people out there who are completely normal that would hop into a game with Warski. The problem is we aren’t seeing that. Instead we’re seeing lolicon after lolicon, furfag after furfag, pedo after pedo after pedo get exposed. Warski LOVES having these people around him because they worship his every move. After the 3rd 4th 5th person to get outed you have to wonder what type of person befriends people like that.

Edit: another point. These are all ANDYS friends. PPP doesn’t interact with these people the same way warski does. That’s not to say ppp is innocent, of course he’s not. But there is a huge difference between how the two present themselves online and its worth pointing out

A man is judged by the company he keeps. Who's in this company so far? An assortment of degens, furries, pedos...Not a good look!

This is the main sticking point that seperates the typical parasocial whale and makes this far worse. Taking money from degen freaks is common place especially in this sphere. Becoming friendly enough to go on a Vegas vacation on the dime of said sicko? Not so much.

if there even is such a thing as a normal 'paypig.'

I think no normal, well-adjusted person would be a paypig. And everyone who paypigs is not normal. This goes for all sorts of paypiggery: onlyfans simps, whales for streamers of all types, sugar daddies, etc. I honestly believe that people who are maladjusted and can't/don't know how to have a regular relationship with another person uses money as a crutch. Relationships like this have a completely different dynamic: they're paying for a service. When that service is "hanging out in Vegas and entering tranny holes/having a tranny enter your hole", however... Shameful.

 

[Douglas Mortimer]

lmao. No. DSP and derich emailed each other for 10 years, the entire time that he was outed as a legit pedo creep. derich made artwork for DSP that he used in his stream. DSP would accidentally call his cat (who he says often is his actual son) Derich. This is just nonsense.

Derich didn't even tip DSP for that entire time, gave him zero dollars. DSP never denounced derich, would bitch and moan that he had to delete him, and couldn't give a fuck if derich showed up with a fake name to tip him today, he'd like it.

You're right San

Though lets not forget the Casino put Phil on blast for it while doing the exact same thing. Actually they took it further than Phil by hanging out in person participing in degenerate acts. The hypocrisy of these guys knows no bounds.

 

[C. G. B. Spender]

The unspeakable things he does to his wallet?

Or the depraved acts of masochism he does to his penis. Absolutely haram.

 

[Balldo's Gate]

METOKUR MASOCHIST UPDATE:
Did Metokur Masochist place Flamenco under his personal protection and call off the Kino Casino? (June 2022)



Background:

Or how about when Wortski sandbagged the Flamenco stream and played damage control for Flamenco; it was later revealed that Warski had a secret agreement with Flamenco to divvy up Ralph alogging content together so he was trying to prevent Flamenco from being sacrificed to the howling mob.

It's interesting you bring this up because Metokur Masochist is potentially implicated in the Flamenco stream from June 8, 2022 and how Warski sandbagged it.
AND THE KINO CASINO IS STREAMING SOON! What timing!

You're right that Warski sandbagged the stream. But it turns out that Metokur Masochist defended Flamenco publicly and hinted he talked to Andy behind the scenes about it, and I think the real reason Warski sandbagged the stream was that MM demanded Andy protect Flamenco. To my knowledge, the so-called "secret agreement" was never confirmed by Warski or Flamenco.

Warski didn't limit himself to stepping in to rescue the floundering Flamenco during the stream as he was pressed on his suspicious Steam group memberships, the infamous "wooden horse" hentai he liked, and more. He also sabotaged the stream by simply refusing to bring up any of the evidence up on OBS so that the viewers could see it. A couple months after the stream, Warski lied and claimed that it was Godwinson's fault that the evidence was not prepared properly for him to display on stream. However, this claim was false.


(Archive)

I clipped out two separate moments from the show where Andy is told to bring screenshots up on OBS that were inside the shared folder and simply doesn't do so. He clarifies what they want on screen and doesn't do it. At 20 seconds in the below clip Andy straight up lies, claiming "it's pulled up for the audience" but there's nothing on the screen. The other participants in the call comment on the screenshot that isn't pulled up because they're looking at it in a shared folder, not realizing that nobody in the audience knows what they're talking about.

In fact, nothing gets played on screen until over an hour into the stream when Andy starts playing clips through the Discord call. Since the other participants in the call (PPP, Godwinson, and Flamenco) have to watch the clip too, he can't trick his co-hosts into believing he was displaying the evidence to the audience while actually not showing anything. It was remarked at the time that Warski also appeared to be looking to his right repeatedly while asked to pull evidence up, almost as if he had a DM chain pulled up on an additional monitor.

One thing that caught my attention is how similar Metokur Masochist and Flamenco's interests in anime/manga appear to be. If we compare the tags on one of the pornographic mangas Metokur Masochist was discussing on FunnyJunk and the infamous "wooden horse" manga linked to Flamenco, many of the tags are the same. This made me guess that Metokur Masochist likely had a positive opinion of Flamenco and may have used his influence with the Casino as their top paypig by far to convince Warski to sandbag the stream and protect Flamenco's reputation.

METOKUR MASOCHIST​	FLAMENCO

Metokur Masochist's deleted Twitter account:

Until mid-2022, Metokur Masochist used a Twitter account under his own name and, following the start of the Kino Casino, openly used it to discuss the show and its topics. It wasn't yet known that he was in fact the infamous top donor of the Kino Casino, Metokur Masochist.



This Twitter account has subsequently been deleted, but the Wayback Machine has a (typically partial) archive of what was said in the form of a little over 700 saved tweets going up to July 2022.
https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://twitter.com/JoshuaGault1/*

On July 17 2022, two Twitter users accurately guessed that the individual furiously sweeping for Andy Warski in Metokur's mentions was Warski's top paypig, Metokur Masochist. This Tweet, one of the first referencing "Metokur Masochist", was how I found the account.



It appears MM deleted his Twitter account almost immediately afterward, as the last archived tweets on the Wayback Machine are dated exactly July 17 2022. The account had to have been deleted or at least the username was changed to something else sometime before August 2022, since there is a new account under the same username that appears to have no relation to MM which was created in that month.

Metokur Masochist's last messages furiously sweeping for Andy and begging PPP not to fire Andy were preserved in the Wayback Machine archive:
"He’s not leaving, hes entertaining and lots of people enjoy him for saying stupid things sometimes and for his energy. Just watch something else I guess? He literally has been with the casino since the beginning and ashton and him are irl friends. PPP doesnt snake like godwin"

Spoiler: Archive

(Archive)

Metokur Masochist openly dangled the fact that he was a Kino Casino insider who was privy to secret information about the show, as shown in this tweet a week before the Flamenco stream (first image) as well as one after (second image) where he responds on behalf of KC.


(Archive 1, Archive 2)

Andy Warski even invited Metokur Masochist to travel to England to be his guest at the fight where he was knocked out in seconds by Salt Papi!


(Archive)

The Flamenco stream: Metokur Masochist's reaction

Let's dig into what MM said about the Flamenco stream after it happened. It turns out - and this might not shock you - MM was outraged about PPP and Godwinson's harsh treatment of Flamenco. He was so outraged that he even criticized them publicly, despite usually spending his time defending the Casino on Twitter.


(Archive)


(Archive)

Here's some more.


(Archive 1, Archive 2, Archive 3)

NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS!
IT'S A LITERAL NOTHINGBURGER!


(Archive)

Here is where things start to get interesting and Metokur Masochist explicitly attacks PPP and Godwinson while praising Andy Warski for being "the only one who thought that this was f'ed up", referring to Andy's defense of Flamenco.

One thing that becomes clear when reading MM's messages is that his parasocial relationship is mainly with Andy. He continually writes impassioned defenses of Andy Warski's reputation online, much less so with Ashton. Andy's tending of the paypig relationships in Discord clearly pays dividends.


(Archive)

More praise of Warski for defending Flamenco... But wait. There's something big here.


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What's that?

"i know he didnt agree with the call."

How would MM know what Andy thinks?
It sounds to me as if Metokur Masochist was so infuriated that PPP and Godwinson called out Flamenco, the pornsick pervert, that he complained to Andy in Discord about it.

While Metokur Masochist was pissed about the "super bullshit" attempt to frame Flamenco, he was apparently resigned to remaining a supporter of the show, saying: "Thankfully life goes on."


(Archive 1, Archive 2)

PPP never tweeted about Flamenco again after the stream. His last tweet about "Flamenco" or "Flam" was before the show.



In July, after Godwinson turned on the Kino Casino in the aftermath of the sabotaged stream and the Powerchat fiasco which KC had to recruit Jim to help sweep up, Metokur Masochist immediately started dangling his access to inside information about what is going on, telling one person: "You dont know the half of it bro..."

He also stated that there were "likely alot of behind the scenes shit you aren't aware of [...] Trust me, Godwinson is not being sincere."

This is the context to what Metokur Masochist was saying:

This is a pretty big claim by Godwinson that PPP was planning to fire Warski.

See 26 minutes into the below video:

Spoiler: Video

(Archive 1, Archive 2)

Additional messages make clear what Metokur Masochist meant when he claimed that "Godwinson is not being sincere". From the messages below, it becomes clear what PPP had to say to defend himself to Andy and the paypigs (who presumably, to a man, were loyal to Warski) against the claim he plotted to fire Andy and replace him with Godwinson. Metokur Masochist claims that, instead of PPP asking Godwinson to replace Andy, that it was the other way around: Godwinson begged PPP for it to happen and "PPP chose Andy over him", repeatedly citing "behind the scenes" information. Now we likely know what PPP's cope was to Andy and the paypigs who were loyal to Andy. Given that a few months later, PPP would attempt to replace Warski with @Perspicacity, one can come to their own conclusions about whether this was an accurate description of what happened.


(Archive 1, Archive 2)


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[DocereAutismus]

He was so outraged that he even criticized them publicly, despite usually spending his time defending the Casino on Twitter.

This is fucking CRAZY. IT NEVER ENDS
I want to add that both Carlos AND purity sin are friends with Flamenco. Andy warski shielded for fagmenco behind the scenes. I’m thinking he was pressured by MM to sweep it up. This is unacceptable and I suspect more and more will drop the longer they keep ignoring this. Great find

 

[Douglas Mortimer]

Amazing work @Balldo's Gate yet again.

All that time they tried to throw Godwinson under the bus while it was Warski doing the real time pedo shielding. It all makes perfect sense now with the pieces put together.

 

[All becomes gunt]

So you mean to tell me that the guy that livestreamed CP is friends with pedophiles and people that play games of little girls being mutilated ? And diaperfurs ? NOOOO. NOOOO GUYS THERE IS NO WAY TARDSKI KNOWS ANYTHING. HE IS INNOCENT. ANDY THE INNOCENT. HE JUST SLIPPED AND FELL INTO A LOLICON JACK.

 

[Genghis Hitler]

That goes for every show in the Sektur. Every show is littered with degenerate freaks because their main audience is forever online people, just like this site, just like the sweetie squad, just like the Ralphamales. Every audience on Internet shitflinging debauchery is mostly comprised of antissocial retards; a whole bunch of their audience intersects ffs. I dont know what is the angle here but it stinks.

I agree with your point, every Sektur audience is filled with scum, weirdos, and degens, this is the trailer park of the internet.

Personally I find it hard to condemn someone for accepting money that a pedophile chooses to give you, the issue starts to arise when you're catering your show to said pedophiles wishes, promoting how cool of a guy said pedophile is, and having orgys in Vegas with said pedophile clique.

Double down on the fact that the Casino is known for being the biggest concern trolling, grand standing, moralfagging show in the Sektur, and it becomes incredibly cathartic to shit on them because it's pure hypocrisy being exposed, and who doesn't love that.

Lastly raise how hard they go at everybody else, and it's understandable that the A logs will be going right back at them the same way because that's the audience they cultivated and ultimately BETRAYED!!

Or at least were made to look like a gaggle of swarthy pedo mutts.