💰 Grifter Kino Casino - Read Kiwifarms with abortionist A-a-andy Warski and lardy PPP. A lolcow drama show. 2/28/2019, never forget.

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not ashamed of pay pigging just didn't want to gloat that i have disposable income
You're openly admitting to pay pigging while "claiming" you have disposable income!? Statistically people who tend to give niggers on the internet money are thousands of dollars in debt or mildly autistic. You should be ashamed, dumb nigger.
 
I have no issue with Godwinson being paid, I don't think money somehow makes someone compromised or corrupts the art. Honestly, if that was a standard belief, it just shows how childish and underdeveloped this faggot "sektur" is. The idea that a patreon "corrupts" art is so braindead it actually causes me physical pain, like artists haven't had patrons for as long as art has existed.
The patreon/fan-support thing is kind of like a cash-only business. There's plenty of valid, good businesses that operate that way for one reason or another. It's also a major avenue for all kinds of illegal activity. It's not inherently bad but it's something scummy people can abuse. I.E. "zombie" patreons where someone is raking in $X/month and producing nothing at all. It's a valid question that can't apply to Godwinson's situation. It's a one-off appearance. If it was a scam for cash it's a shitty one because there was no guarantee of further income. He probably could make that back via fan donos if money was the goal.
 
The patreon/fan-support thing is kind of like a cash-only business. There's plenty of valid, good businesses that operate that way for one reason or another. It's also a major avenue for all kinds of illegal activity. It's not inherently bad but it's something scummy people can abuse. I.E. "zombie" patreons where someone is raking in $X/month and producing nothing at all. It's a valid question that can't apply to Godwinson's situation. It's a one-off appearance. If it was a scam for cash it's a shitty one because there was no guarantee of further income. He probably could make that back via fan donos if money was the goal.
What's a valid question? If it's scummy? If it corrupts the person?
 
Just hope that Kinochet leak all the discord meetings in the future
Well, he ain't gonna do it here unless he socks, or writes a very compelling appeal. It looks like @Kinochet got the boot last night.

Good riddance. He was on the fast track to being Spectre 2.0.

If @MWV wants to try and tard shit up, he should have the decency to do it himself.
 
You're openly admitting to pay pigging while "claiming" you have disposable income!? Statistically people who tend to give niggers on the internet money are thousands of dollars in debt or mildly autistic. You should be ashamed, dumb nigger.

Paypigs admitting to funding the bills/rent of a fat autist that can't tie his shoes and, apparently, can't set a clock and a retarded middle-aged cokehead. Solid investment. :story:
 
What's a valid question? If it's scummy? If it corrupts the person?
"Are they grifting?" The quality of KC has undeniably declined and some negative things have come to light. I won't say whether they are/aren't grifting but it is a situation where I can at least understand where someone would argue either side. This doesn't really apply to Godwinson for the reasons I've specified. It's a reaching, facile argument that works against their intent to come across as not grifting with the lowest of the low effort content.
 
You're openly admitting to pay pigging while "claiming" you have disposable income!? Statistically people who tend to give niggers on the internet money are thousands of dollars in debt or mildly autistic. You should be ashamed, dumb nigger.
bro you can have disposable income while also being in a crippling amount of debt, just take out payday loans when you need disposable income it's easy
 
how does ralphs merch compare per chance?
Ralph at least has the glow in the dark fed shirt which while stupid is at least a unique gimmick. https://killstream.live/product/fed-glow-in-dark-shirt-special-edition/
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He also offers it in PPP's size(to be fair it's probably also Ralph's size):
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"Are they grifting?" The quality of KC has undeniably declined and some negative things have come to light. I won't say whether they are/aren't grifting but it is a situation where I can at least understand where someone would argue either side. This doesn't really apply to Godwinson for the reasons I've specified. It's a reaching, facile argument that works against their intent to come across as not grifting with the lowest of the low effort content.
Ohh ok, I see what you're saying. Yea with KC it definitely seems like they're in it for the money, but I don't feel like the presence of money caused that like Godwinson is saying, rather it's because of Warski and PPP. Godwinson's belief seems to be that money in art corrupts people and ruins the art, which I think is a really dumb take. Some people end up grifting, but those people would have stopped making videos or their show if there was no money involved, so the presence of money hasn't ruined anything, it just means that instead of ending the show they pivoted to grifting.
 
Are even guntguards this shameless?
Yes.

Same here, my account was banned. For those who don't know if you're banned in chat this is how to check. Type in the chat, exit the chat and reopen it. If your comment doesn't appear after reopening the live chat you're banned. As far as a shadow ban for comments you'll have to check with an alt account and hit new comments and scroll down to see if you're banned. Sometimes YouTube will remove your comments if you get too spicy. Same goes for live chat, for example if you say "You're a pussy PPP!" YouTube auto deletes it for bad language.
They shadowbanned me during the Flam stream. I always keep a tab in a different browser open to make sure my posts go through. They have been sweeping a lot of (now former) fans from the chat since then.
 
Retarded. They live reacted to Ralph sniping them lastnight. They even talked about how PPP has been too lazy to actually set the time on that clock behind him - it read 3 o'clock at some point during the stream last night.
You mean when asston said "funny that Ralph stopped stream sniping" when he clearly didn't? Why don't you address the fact that OBS supposedly crashed live yet they were back instantly with no buffering or downtime on the stream, which also happened to be during an intermission?
 
imo there wasn't any point where Fred Fuchs was as obnoxious as Tardski when he goes on a live ego trip.
What about the time him and Sons of Kojima donated water wells in Africa to """own""" DSP and were huffing their own farts how morally rigtheous they are for
doing that? Honestly, that feels like something Cokeski and PPP would do eventually to """"""own""""" Ralph
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So I typed in

“Adam Edge” kiwifarms

Into Google and something on page 50 came up in Ashton’s thread. From years ago. He was already doxxed? Or what I am missing?

The old lore is that Baronet Adam Edge is upper crust, descended from an unironic old school liberalist, the type Sargon so greatly wishes he could be. Adam's aristocratic societal echelon most likely approves of laughing at obese alcoholics and new money prom kings who think they live in mansions. I imagine he regales them with tales about trashburgers over cigars and brandy.
As an Edge Lord, Godwinson, probably doesn't have to worry too much about being employable.
I have no idea how true this shit is.
 
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Ohh ok, I see what you're saying. Yea with KC it definitely seems like they're in it for the money, but I don't feel like the presence of money caused that like Godwinson is saying, rather it's because of Warski and PPP. Godwinson's belief seems to be that money in art corrupts people and ruins the art, which I think is a really dumb take. Some people end up grifting, but those people would have stopped making videos or their show if there was no money involved, so the presence of money hasn't ruined anything, it just means that instead of ending the show they pivoted to grifting.
Godwinson is just doing the thing you're meant to do as a character with opinions online. He holds to the most extreme version of the opinion and then carries it as far as it can go, because that's the most attention-grabbing and thought-provoking thing to do. It's reasonable to accept that he's right at least to some degree in all cases but then weigh exactly how poisonous the influence of money is on a case-by-case basis. It's a matter of degrees.

Let's imagine that months ago when PPP was in the cabin, he went to his viewers and said look guys I can't work a normal job right now but I still need money to live, so I'm starting a gumroad at $10, and if I can then I'll lower the price to $7.50 or $5 or even $2.50 as long as the total is enough for me to live on. No dono reads because I don't take any donos. Sure if he did things that way then there'd still be something in his head telling him "I can't say this or that or I might lose some subs", but it wouldn't be nearly as retarded as the situation he finds himself in now.
 
Months ago I recall saying to people in conversation that there's no way KC and PPP/Warski can be interesting on their own, without Ralph/AF non-stop self-destructing. If there's even a bit of a content dearth (Which there has been) from Ralph/AF, the KC and PPP/Warski become boring and start spiraling. Their momentum was entirely generated by Ralph/AF fucking up, and when those two go even a little quiet or just aren't self-destructing as spectacularly, there's nowhere for the KC to go but down.

I stopped paying attention to them at least a month ago because they've just been boring.
 
Months ago I recall saying to people in conversation that there's no way KC and PPP/Warski can be interesting on their own, without Ralph/AF non-stop self-destructing. If there's even a bit of a content dearth (Which there has been) from Ralph/AF, the KC and PPP/Warski become boring and start spiraling. Their momentum was entirely generated by Ralph/AF fucking up, and when those two go even a little quiet or just aren't self-destructing as spectacularly, there's nowhere for the KC to go but down.

I stopped paying attention to them at least a month ago because they've just been boring.
They could have literally pulled a Metokur and just disappeared for a while until Ralph/AF did something completely retarded and/or self-destructed then come back and do a show. They wouldn't be boring as fuck and actually had content. But they are grifting so that PPP can buy more fat food and Warski can get some cocaine to stutter more
 
During one of the early Casinos, when PPP/Warski were going after Ralph for faking donos, I remember Warski explicitly saying this was a powerchat problem. He said powerchat allowed test donations which could be spoofed to look like real ones. Warski went on to say the system they used at the time didn't allow them to do those test donations, which is how you knew their numbers weren't faked. What gives then? Were they on youtube superchats at one point before switching over?
Though I guess if you don't move to a processor that allows falsifying donation alerts, you can't prerecord a stream and pretend it's live...
 
Andy and PPP burned out their content mills and were being penny wise but pound foolish in going in as hard (content-wise, not effort-wise) as they did. Harvests take time, and the drama-sphere is not the sort of market to get by on the content equivalent of microgreens. They need to find some other subjects and take a month off from Ralph and Nick (honestly, Nick is incredibly boring content and I don't see why anybody cares to get updates on him at all. Ralph at least does funny stuff like go get beat up). Those content wells need time to replenish, and they have an entire pre-cataloged site of weird people to talk about in the interim.
But they won't, because they are bound by their current paypigs to beat a dead horse and the live horse he's married to.
 
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