🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Did Josh legitimately hallucinate some of the things that he claims to have heard? Or was he just bullshitting?

Hearing "That goth guy smells good." at the Dirt Bar is exceedingly unlikely but not entirely disprovable. Hearing "Hey, that's King Cobra's favorite team! Fuck mass shootings!" on the broadcast of the Atlanta Falcons game is demonstrably false.

If he was just trying to impress his audience, then it's kind of cute in a "My uncle works for Nintendo" sort of way. If he really heard those things in the form of auditory hallucinations, though, it's a little scary.
My two favorite ones of these stories are from the Ozzy gig, the "now it's a party" bit and the shoutout from stage:


Also, I love the way he does the usher's line at around 1:22, it's genuinely so charming and funny (the animation adds to it too, of course). I think that one guy (chaz something?) was scamming him about some voice acting job for a while, but Cobes legit could have made it as a side gig on some online show. Would have come natural to him. 'tis what it is, toobz.

Edit: LMAO the way his reaction to both instances was "And I'm like: YEAH DOODT!"
 
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and to be fair if he was going out into public he showered for an ungodly amount of time so he probably didn't reek (except his mouth we can only imagine)
I absolutely believe that he didn't smell bad when out in public.

I recall reading about a study where research subjects wore the same clothes for days or maybe weeks at a time without changing them, washing them, or washing themselves. At the end of the study, the researchers found that something like 90% of the odor-causing filth was contained in the clothing rather than on the subjects' bodies. So even if Josh didn't shower before going out, as long as he put on fresh clothes, he wouldn't carry an offensive odor -- certainly not one that could be perceived by strangers across the room.

But someone smelling good is really just smelling neutral. If someone is wearing so much of a fragrance that you can perceive it -- especially from several feet away -- then it's too much. Even if the fragrance is pleasant, it becomes too intense and becomes a "bad" smell. I've never remarked that a stranger "smells good." I don't think anyone has. It's just the default.
 
His dad said he had auditory hallucinations, so... I don't think Clint would bullshit us about something so negative about his boy. Cobes had enough problems, so there weren't any need to make up more, y'know?
i wonder how much the trolls made that type of thing worse in the end. like i always had a feeling that he was imagining things at times so i would not be surprised if he eventually got to a point mentally where he was imagining trolls even when his phone was broken and he had no way of seeing anything online.
 
So even if Josh didn't shower before going out, as long as he put on fresh clothes, he wouldn't carry an offensive odor -- certainly not one that could be perceived by strangers across the room.
I'm reminded of something I read, about him rubbing his tactical soap on his clothes...

He probably just smelled like cigs. That smell overtakes a lot of other stuff.
 
i wonder how much the trolls made that type of thing worse in the end. like i always had a feeling that he was imagining things at times so i would not be surprised if he eventually got to a point mentally where he was imagining trolls even when his phone was broken and he had no way of seeing anything online.
Even if the trolls didn't exacerbate his hallucinations, his drug and alcohol abuse certainly didn't help. I've known many different people with different diagnoses, but having auditory hallucinations in common, who also had substance abuse of varying degrees. I've lost count of how many active psychoses I've witnessed over the last decade of my life, because of substance abuse or failing to take ones medicine without also using substances.
I could totally believe that his trolls made it much worse. The text messages, the phonecalls and the constant glass tapping with door dash orders for hamster bedding and bags of ice, the cobra stomper fliers etc. eventually took a big toll on the boy.
 
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His dad said he had auditory hallucinations, so... I don't think Clint would bullshit us about something so negative about his boy. Cobes had enough problems, so there weren't any need to make up more, y'know?
as Gef and Assorted Drink Combo referenced, the Ozzy "shoutout" was the strangest one to me. I couldnt figure out if Cobez was so plastered he imagined it or made it up to seem cool, like how Acoustic Virgin said. Then one day at work I was wondering if Ozzy said something kinda similar, like he could randomly point to any section of a crowd and literally say anything-and soooo many people would believe Ozzy was noticing them alone in a sea of thousands.
Learning that Cobez would hear things, and that they were always compliments and praise (even if it was just two things over and over-smelling good, and being goth) made me so sad.
 
Does anyone have the clip where Cobes is sitting next to Stephanie and he has Rusty and Shon on each hand? Both puppets are hitting on Stephanie and she tells Cobes that they can make them jealous and makes out with him. It’s fucking gold.
 
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Met a guy today who had the Ozzy knuckle tattoos, the first one I've seen IRL...

And it was during the memorial gathering of one my best friend's son's death anniverdary... kid died in a hit and run 7 years ago)

Really hard not to think of him sometimes. My sad and pathetic life is ruled, but I'm not complaining.
 
May you all find someone who looks at you the way that Stephanie looked at Josh while he was playing with puppets. :feels:

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It really is insane how much good for himself the boy fumbled having stephaine and how lucky stephanie was to get away from him.
I could imagine cobes going down a sadder path, just arguing with his ballooning unhappy wife in a trailer all day. imagine the NAL saga but for years of circling the drain. Or maybe a happier path where he got offline and raised a boglim or two and didn't become an addict.
 
I think it was SeizureRobot9000 who said "Well if you're gonna have hallucinations, at least have 'em say nice stuff." or something like that.
Ozzy during his concert, Trump at his rally, random goth hotties at the bar, all saying "Praise Cobra's magic!" or "That goth dude smells good!"
 
I shudder at the idea of celebrating the death of anybody, but god dammit, Cyraxx makes me legitimately MATI. Cobra was a filthy weirdo who talked about sickos and Ozzy's grandkids way too often for the comfort of normies, but god dammit he was genuinely human. Cyraxx is a goblin pederast who leeches off their grandmother/tard wrangler and brings only misery to everybody around him.

That's the difference. Even when Cobra was at his drunkest and most sicko, he still brought great joy to thousands of people because of who he was. Not because of the harm he was doing to others.
cobes was a person with genuine issues that still managed to do good, even if he didnt realize it.
cyraxx is just a prick, and its a shame it want him instead of cobra that was taken.
though i fell its a good thing Cobra was taken to a better place, a guy like him didnt deserve the life he lived, even if a lot of it was self inflicted
 
Did Josh legitimately hallucinate some of the things that he claims to have heard? Or was he just bullshitting?

Hearing "That goth guy smells good." at the Dirt Bar is exceedingly unlikely but not entirely disprovable. Hearing "Hey, that's King Cobra's favorite team! Fuck mass shootings!" on the broadcast of the Atlanta Falcons game is demonstrably false.

If he was just trying to impress his audience, then it's kind of cute in a "My uncle works for Nintendo" sort of way. If he really heard those things in the form of auditory hallucinations, though, it's a little scary.
I never used to think, but after the tribute stream from his father. He probably had an undiagnosed or not properly treated schizoaffective disorder. If he responded to unseen stimuli, something was going on. But he grew up in Wyoming, in the 90's and not to insult Clint. Maybe Clint had poor mental health literacy regarding proper treatment for his son.
 
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