🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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Agares said:
I had a feeling something like that happened to her. Surprised it took her some 30 or so years to fully spiral into hag mode. Jessica used to look so normal but IIRC she was always a hyper manipulative psycho.
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I don't have an intricate timeline of her lore or anything but noticed her decline and transition into hagraven seems to coincide with her breaking up with her one ex from Florida and having to move back to Virginia with her parents. Her verison includes him pulling out a samurai sword on her to attack her so I can only imagine what the actual truth is.

Agamemnon Busmalis said:
To be honest, I don't believe a word of it. A made up sob story about being molested and how her evil parents didn't do anything about it is about par for the course for somebody like her. She's got some kind of mental illness but being a severe alcoholic and drug addict is the real problem.

Severe alcoholics have a lot of problems with paranoia, psychosis and confabulation because of the damage the alcohol abuse causes to their brain and thought processes. Even moreso if they're malnourished on top of it.
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Yea I should also add that alot of people think she made the whole thing up I'm not even sure if I believe it myself but it does kind of make sense and personally I've seen her vag pic posted so much that I know she has a scar there also so she could be telling the truth but I have no idea.
 
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Agares said:
Looks like she and Cobes can also bond over breaking their phones and computers all the time. Speaking of which, do we have an official killcount of Josh's iMacs. I know he's destroyed at least 2 of them in the last decade.
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Learning that this stream died because of Wyoming internet rather than his spraying beer on his Mac was perhaps the biggest Christmas blue ball of all time.
Agamemnon Busmalis said:
In three months, Clint Saunders will become the largest supplier of boglim wand sticks. All drink combos are upgraded with Jack Skellington candlesticks, becoming fully Goth. Afterwards, they get Josh shitfaced with a perfect operational record.

The Clocktowered Mansion Funding Bill is passed. The first chillin is uploaded August 4th, 2024. Lighters acting cute are removed from video responces. Bognet begins to learn social media doesn't give a shit at a geometric rate. It begins trolling Josh at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th. In a panic, YouTube tries to pull the plug.
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Last night I had a dream filled with ill omens... it was the ending of Deus Ex but instead of JC Denton merging with the Helios AI he merged with the Cobratin AI.
Bogliacci said:
Fellow cool cobras, i got a good feeling about this next season

Let's just say it's a hunch:tomgirl:
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"The Discords are so big, you don't even know who you're trolling for. That's a-logging, a-logging built into the system."
 
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ClothedandSobbing said:
I don't have an intricate timeline of her lore or anything but noticed her decline and transition into hagraven seems to coincide with her breaking up with her one ex from Florida and having to move back to Virginia with her parents. Her verison includes him pulling out a samurai sword on her to attack her so I can only imagine what the actual truth is.
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Here's the thing though, She was ALWAYS a miserable person, but it seems she hid it better before. I know the Cobesbros don't want us clogging up with NAL lore, and there is a thread with all this stuff in the works, but her journal entries from 2003 are just as unhinged and often repeat similar things to that she says now. She makes comments about how much she NEEDS alcohol (at 18/19) and how grateful she is at one point for someone handing her a wine cooler. A. Wine. Cooler. She also talks about how she would love to poison her mom if she could get away with it.

I'm not saying nothing ever happened to her; but I don't think its anywhere near where SHE says it is. She has absolutely realized how to get reactions, and thrives off of them - positive or negative (though she seems to prefer the negative so she can be the martyr).

I don't think we've pinpointed her Florida timeline yet, but it was after 2003/2004 and before 2015 (estimation dates).
 
I'm not up to date on hag lore. Are Jessica (NAL) and Jessica Messica the same or two different bitches?
 
One of the common lolcow loopz is to sperg about what childhood abuse a cow suffered, if any, are they lying about it, etc. I hate these type of loopz. NAL is almost 40 so idky it even matters what happened to her or if anything even happened in her childhood or adolescence. It's not like it's an excuse for her behavior as a middle-aged woman so who cares?
Big Nasty said:
I'm not up to date on hag lore. Are Jessica (NAL) and Jessica Messica the same or two different bitches?
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Two different people. Jessica Messica is the 400-pound beast that stream-snipes NAL.
 
Got a question for the people who know lots about NAL here was she a normal person at one point? By normal I mean functioning in society not neurotypical. I've seen older photos of her and she looks like she had a job. When did she go fully into severe mental illness and drinking?
 
ClothedandSobbing said:
Yea I should also add that alot of people think she made the whole thing up I'm not even sure if I believe it myself but it does kind of make sense and personally
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It's definitely possible, but I just think she's an alcoholic who has irreparably pickled her brain with booze. Alcohol abuse by itself can cause you to go psychotic and have extreme mood swings and it exacerbates other mental illnesses like depression and BPD. Dual diagnosis is a real hell of a situation and the outcomes are disastrous without treatment and pretty poor with it.

Probably only treatment-resistant schizophrenia is worse.

ClothedandSobbing said:
I've seen her vag pic posted so much that I know she has a scar there also so she could be telling the truth but I have no idea.
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Well that's one thing I haven't seen, thank Cobratin.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
Got a question for the people who know lots about NAL here was she a normal person at one point? By normal I mean functioning in society not neurotypical. I've seen older photos of her and she looks like she had a job. When did she go fully into severe mental illness and drinking?
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I don't think she was ever "normal" per se, but she was able to function. Her last known job was Home Depot, and she was fired sometime after October 31, 2017. We don't have the exact date or reason, but she posted on a Home Depot Meme "4 years ago" that she was fired "I don't miss Home Depot, but I do miss my job" when looked at in 2024, so we can assume she was fired in between the 2017 date and 2020 some time.

It seems she really embraced her alcoholism and bog witch status at this point.
 
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Sicko Hunter said:
Got a question for the people who know lots about NAL here was she a normal person at one point? By normal I mean functioning in society not neurotypical. I've seen older photos of her and she looks like she had a job. When did she go fully into severe mental illness and drinking?
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I don’t think she’s ever been normal but i think she was probably normal ish in her late 20’s early 30’s

Prolly got fired. 2020 happened. She lost her shit and the demon inside was awoken.

Beaten by @Rotogravure with a better theory,
 
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Different. Jessica messica is a youtuber from gorlworld who covers nals meltdowns
Big Nasty said:
I'm not up to date on hag lore. Are Jessica (NAL) and Jessica Messica the same or two different bitches
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Rotogravure said:
Here's the thing though, She was ALWAYS a miserable person, but it seems she hid it better before. I know the Cobesbros don't want us clogging up with NAL lore, and there is a thread with all this stuff in the works, but her journal entries from 2003 are just as unhinged and often repeat similar things to that she says now. She makes comments about how much she NEEDS alcohol (at 18/19) and how grateful she is at one point for someone handing her a wine cooler. A. Wine. Cooler. She also talks about how she would love to poison her mom if she could get away with it.

I'm not saying nothing ever happened to her; but I don't think its anywhere near where SHE says it is. She has absolutely realized how to get reactions, and thrives off of them - positive or negative (though she seems to prefer the negative so she can be the martyr).

I don't think we've pinpointed her Florida timeline yet, but it was after 2003/2004 and before 2015 (estimation dates).
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I'd love to be able to read her journals I know she deleted it though unless it was archived somehow
 
DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK said:
Also I think Jessica makes up her "trauma"
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For sure. She also likes to bring up a traumatic experience where her cat got ran over by a friend, friends bf, neighbor, etc. I've heard this story at least 3 different ways. Everything she says is bullshit. This is the same retard that's convinced a mysterious outside force prevented her from playing the winning lottery numbers several years ago. Being a victim is how she copes with her pathetic life.

Unrelated video of NAL nodding off to 2chainz from a couple days ago.
 
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For sure. She also likes to bring up a traumatic experience where her cat got ran over by a friend, friends bf, neighbor, etc. I've heard this story at least 3 different ways. Everything she says is bullshit. This is the same retard that's convinced a mysterious outside force prevented her from playing the winning lottery numbers several years ago. Being a victim is how she copes with her pathetic life.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=AS46dwU5lUIUnrelated video of NAL nodding off to 2chainz from a couple days ago.
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She claims the neighbors killed her cat but has no proof, she claims the neighbor was "mocking her", which in NAL's eyes, could have been simply the neighbor asking why the cat was outside.

Here are some excerpts from her now deleted LiveJournal, she has always been a mentally ill bitch, the posts range from her early 20s to her early 30s

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Below is a link of that Jessica Messica person going through her LiveJournal on stream, NAL deleted it while Jessica Messica was reading it.

Nowadays she gets very offended when someone suggests she is a lesbian, yet she had a profile on "Rate My Melons" where she talked about sucking nipples and eating pussy

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Ponzo said:
She claims the neighbors killed her cat but has no proof, she claims the neighbor was "mocking her", which in NAL's eyes, could have been simply the neighbor asking why the cat was outside.

Here are some excerpts from her now deleted LiveJournal, she has always been a mentally ill bitch, the posts range from her early 20s to her early 30s

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Below is a link of that Jessica Messica person going through her LiveJournal on stream, NAL deleted it while Jessica Messica was reading it.

Nowadays she gets very offended when someone suggests she is a lesbian, yet she had a profile on "Rate My Melons" where she talked about sucking nipples and eating pussy

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It was barely even a week ago she was talking about rubbing one out to herself in the mirror and slurping the burger-sauce up. Whichever stream had the yellow shirt and wasn't a total meltdown. Now she denies it vehemently.
 
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