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Finally saw the part about asking his friend.

This is the most shitty idea imaginable. If she's someone you consider a good female friend, why in the world would you put her in an awkward position to answer a question like that? You know she has a boyfriend, so why does it matter? If she says she finds him attractive, it's a guarantee he'd follow that up with "would you date me?", which is even dumber. If she admits that he looks nice, but she doesn't find him attractive in that way, there'll be more rage. Maybe not towards her in the moment, but most likely later in a video. No matter how you look at it, there's no good outcome that'll come from a stupid ass question like this.

Doesn't sound like Kent really considers her a friend, honestly. More like someone Kent hopes to get with given the right situation. A common tactic of the "nice guy" as we often see. I feel sorry for that girl.

@Bassomatic You da best!
 
You called it right, a friend is a friend, not a waiting period till you can date her.

I can't tell if my wrist watch needs service or it's a count down for how much longer he has a "friend". I don't see why he's trashing this? There is no winning for him in this situation as you said. His best bet is ask her about single friends or let her know to keep the word out for when a girl frees up.

I don't think it's weird at all for people to use connections for relationships, as @ForumLurker mentioned it's all about who you know and esp with jobs. I can say myself I've had some great relationships because friends knew I was looking at that time and they knew I was someone who was gonna treat their friend right (if only the pendulum swung back). He says he's got female friends, so why not use that asset in love quest? I think Kent uses the term friend loosely as well, not at all to say you can't make friends or more online but he considers Jamil a close good friend and later says he doesn't have his phone #.

Kent probably calls any women he interacts with friends to be honest since it reenforces he is the victim of the friend zone, and proof he's good at talking to girls, girls are at fault.

Edit: @MetroCity_Gangsta thank you kindly :)
 
I have to agree. If Kent was actually introduced to women through friends or so forth, I'd say he'd have a much greater chance at meeting someone on the same page as himself. Problem is Kent hates guys, so no friends there; has female friends who don't want to date him, so nothing there. He could potentially ask his female friends to introduce him to one of her single friends, but I kinda doubt he would since he's so fixated on the friend.

The only other connections I can think of are church, but he's already been rejected from at least one woman there and decided not to pursue the latest one. Kent needs to learn the importance of friendship.
 
MetroCity_Gangsta said:
I have to agree. If Kent was actually introduced to women through friends or so forth, I'd say he'd have a much greater chance at meeting someone on the same page as himself. Problem is Kent hates guys, so no friends there; has female friends who don't want to date him, so nothing there. He could potentially ask his female friends to introduce him to one of her single friends, but I kinda doubt he would since he's so fixated on the friend.
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I wouldn't fix up my worst enemy with Kent, to be honest. He's the type who gets way too attached to women if he's attracted to, and while it's unlikely he'd actually hurt anyone, the risk of long-term issues from going on a date with him and then not being his perfect waifu would be way too high.
 
Rin said:
I wouldn't fix up my worst enemy with Kent, to be honest. He's the type who gets way too attached to women if he's attracted to, and while it's unlikely he'd actually hurt anyone, the risk of long-term issues from going on a date with him and then not being his perfect waifu would be way too high.
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And with the way he talks, there's a non-zero chance of him actually going nuts and murdering them if he develops an obsession.
 
gamer2014 said:
I noticed his recent "happy" videos are shorter like 10 minutes tops which most of his sad videos are 20 minutes plus.
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He's obviously just venting his videos are mostly stupid. Alright I'm just gonna say... gonna put out what I'm feeling. I'm just gonna tell yall, this is. this is how. Gonna tell yall how I'm feeling because... this is just how I'm feeling lately. Cause that's just, it's just how I feel and I'm gonna tell ya.

I mean I'm gonna tell yah how I feel.

Cause that's how I feel
 
Bassomatic said:
Kent probably calls any women he interacts with friends to be honest since it reenforces he is the victim of the friend zone, and proof he's good at talking to girls, girls are at fault.
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The sad part is he has been taken advantage of before, he needs to stay out the friendzone. A girl can pretend to like him and just have him pay for unlimited dates or until his money runs out. Mind you they could do this while having an actual boyfriend.

Rin said:
He's the type who gets way too attached to women if he's attracted to, and while it's unlikely he'd actually hurt anyone, the risk of long-term issues from going on a date with him and then not being his perfect waifu would be way too high.
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That's true, no one wants a stalker. Chances are things will not work out on the first couple of dates. Not sure how he would handle that kind of rejection. Its sad that he doesn't take social cues when girls tell him they have a boyfriend. Not sure why he thinks its still ok to proceed.
 
MetroCity_Gangsta said:
I have to agree. If Kent was actually introduced to women through friends or so forth, I'd say he'd have a much greater chance at meeting someone on the same page as himself. Problem is Kent hates guys, so no friends there; has female friends who don't want to date him, so nothing there. He could potentially ask his female friends to introduce him to one of her single friends, but I kinda doubt he would since he's so fixated on the friend.

The only other connections I can think of are church, but he's already been rejected from at least one woman there and decided not to pursue the latest one. Kent needs to learn the importance of friendship.
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He makes himself so much worse than he needs to be, his bitterness is his worse enemy by far. Early 20s is still a time when aimless people can get absurd amounts of tail. He doesn't want a social circle either he wants a g/f not understanding it's not a fleshlite you can take in public.

Rin said:
I wouldn't fix up my worst enemy with Kent, to be honest. He's the type who gets way too attached to women if he's attracted to, and while it's unlikely he'd actually hurt anyone, the risk of long-term issues from going on a date with him and then not being his perfect waifu would be way too high.
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Yup but that's his conduct, if he was really a "nice guy" and single who wouldn't pass a friend off? I agree how he is only someone who's unaware of who he is would do so, but still he's got a better shot pulling wool over someone's eyes than creeping.

AnOminous said:
And with the way he talks, there's a non-zero chance of him actually going nuts and murdering them if he develops an obsession.
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I want you forever with me, so I wear you as a suit of of love - Kent before his trial.
DEAF_TONES said:
The Faithful Wanderer 8 hours ago

I feel like if you do ask thiat girl if she thinks your attractive any chance you would've had with her will fly right out the window because you are showing her your insecurity

Lol seems like the tables have turned. Jamil is giving Kent pointers now
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Jamil is right but I'm sure Kent will consider this shots bucked. Oh this is the time to cook some jiffy pop.
ForumLurker said:
The sad part is he has been taken advantage of before, he needs to stay out the friendzone. A girl can pretend to like him and just have him pay for unlimited dates or until his money runs out. Mind you they could do this while having an actual boyfriend.



That's true, no one wants a stalker. Chances are things will not work out on the first couple of dates. Not sure how he would handle that kind of rejection. Its sad that he doesn't take social cues when girls tell him they have a boyfriend. Not sure why he thinks its still ok to proceed.
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Yes it's sad Kent's been used, I don't wish ill on anyone and using someone like that is cruel. You have two options, saying well Jane played me, she's a jerk or all women are bitches. One of them lets you move on, granted Kent is still angry about middle school events I think we know how he choose to be.
 
Does kent have a dad? I know moms don't always get it but if kent was my son I'd sit him down and explain to him he's not getting anywhere with chicks if he pouts about not getting his text returned. When guys do that sort of stuff even their peers look down on it, it's immature girl shit.
 
ChuckSlaughter said:
Does kent have a dad? I know moms don't always get it but if kent was my son I'd sit him down and explain to him he's not getting anywhere with chicks if he pouts about not getting his text returned. When guys do that sort of stuff even their peers look down on it, it's immature girl shit.
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Kent has stated he's in touch with his father but his parents are split there are no more details about this.

We also don't know how deep his relationship is with his father and for how long. He may only be texting or see him here and there and if so we don't know how long or if a period of no contact was there. I do wonder but at the same time, divorce can be nasty and respect what privacy Kent has. But on that note he almost happily admits, he tried to kill himself but doesn't talk about his parents split. Maybe I'm projecting but it tends to be of a nasty split.

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We don't have a great picture, on either of them in regards to that. It seems Jamil's parents have some rules and that's probably why he's able to do as well as he does because he's used to a routine and taking responsibility.

Kent's mentioned his dad tried to give him girl advice and told him to be confident. He told his dad to the effects ok I guess in pure sarcasm, so unlike anyone else he respects his dad enough not to tell him to jump off a bridge for that. We know nothing of his mother.

I do think it's safe to guess she's pretty much just used to letting him do what ever, as we haven't heard of a step parent she was probably busy at work quite often so they just live together but don't interact.
 
I do love Kent claiming he can get along really, really well with women as a friend, and then they all universally say no when it comes to anything else. If he got along half as well with women as he thought he did, he probably wouldn't be where he is right now. And on a similar note, he claims that with all these women he's been close with, that when he asks them out, that they make up the fact they're with someone also as an excuse, and that he's pretty sure of it...But I'm pretty sure if he was actually friends with someone, he'd probably be aware of that beforehand. Having a boyfriend isn't some secret, and while I doubt any of them would go talking about it nonstop, if they were actually friends with Kent for even a month or two, it would probably have come up at some point naturally during a conversation. Like, "Oh yeah, I saw that movie you mentioned at the theater the other week with my boyfriend." Between Facebook and other social media sites, for a man claiming to prescreen the women he's interested in by looking at those sites, you'd think he would find a reference to it online as well.
 
Yea its either because of child abuse or Neglect. When ever its just the single mom raising the child the kid either becomes uncontrollably violent or a mamas boy. 2 extremes. Kent and Jamil haven't found their pack of men to hang out with and it has stunted their social growth. A lot of men in single mother homes join gangs to feel like they belong to something. Kent ended up joining a football team and church club called T.H.U.G so its clear he has the potential to be normal. I guess he's just finding it hard to get woman. No man has taught him, even in his church youth group. Not sure what kind of clubs Jamil has joined. All I know is they lack guidance.

This is a good book on the topic of being a man: http://www.amazon.com/The-Way-Men-Jack-Donovan/dp/0985452307
 
I don't think it's the parents fault as to why Kent and Jamil don't know how to talk to women. I think if that was the case, then it wouldn't be only Kent and Jamil in their respective families who aren't married or have a girlfriend, IMO.

Most likely, Kent and Jamil have not spilled all the beans in terms of why they are having bad luck with women, thus leaving their family to guess blindly what might be the problem. Thus, Kent gets generic advice which is usually not too helpful for people who struggle attracting women, like being more confident. There is a good chance that neither father knows how fucked up Kent and Jamil are, especially when it comes to their personality. Both of them have huge deficits which prevent them from doing well, such as: being delusional about the dating scene and how women think, being clingy, sensitive to rejection, and extremely jealous of other men who can attract women. I think these guys are better off getting help from either a therapist, or finally help themselves by opening their eyes by start thinking about their problems in a logically, rather than emotionally. Lately in the comment section, you can see that Jamil has been doing this a bit. Kent? Not so much. He's still stuck in his own bubble.

Then or also at the same time, have a friend teach them how to talk to women. Trial and error is not going to work well for them, since they seem to have bad social skills and therefore might fail to see the signs of when a woman is interested in them or not.
 
Oddly enough looking back my parents gave me the best and worst advice in dating. By far best, manners. Worst : literally everything else. lol. It seems decently common for those with broken homes to cope with a relationship. One upping your parents and proving to yourself true love is real or something to that effect. I'm not sure where to dig a cite up for that, but I hope it'll be accepted as common knowledge.

I would agree, they aren't being completely honest, in their safety venting on YT they've been unreliable narrators so in person it's probably worse due to lack of confidence and not wanting to be a let down. Protip if they are lurking your parents are on your side, striking out with a girl won't get you disowned.

It seems like they both learned everything about relationships from Disney movies and or sitcoms honestly. One thing I've taken note in Kent says there are down sides of a relationship then either won't list them or deny there are downsides. This makes me think he doesn't see any and was just trying to come off more in tune than he is. He doesn't know the first thing about a relationship, and it's NOT because he's not had one.

Both of them are getting help, Kent goes to group and a shrink. Jamil is seeing a school therapist. Again it's what you make of it you can lead a horse to water. What any one and probably a shrink would agree, step one unfuck your life. A shrink may also say go back figure how and why you went on this path. Neither of them seem to grasp you work your way up to goals. They want to run before walking. Telling Kent doing something aside working on love quests causes explosive reactions.

Jamil has stated his friend was helping him, a social life would do them both good.
 
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